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« on: December 05, 2015, 20:37 »
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Hi Everyone
I am pretty new to stock footage. Just started yesterday.
I do have some old footage that I am cutting up though
Looking to create a side income besides regular the camera work and editing which I freelance on.
I have looked through the forum and I  see right now most people are on SS,P5 and then VideoBlocks.
I have decided to go with those 3 for now.
I know this varies based on subject matter and the sheer quality of the clip but....
What I would like to know are your average clip numbers for each site and your equivalent monthly income? , if you feel ok sharing.  ;D  ;D
I am hoping i can get any average from different people and estimate how many quality clips (and how much time) I would need to put in to achieve my income goals.

I'll like to estimate for example, how many clips might I need to achieve a 500 dollar income monthly?

I have currently submitted about 30 clips. Awaiting approval on all 3 sites mentioned.I am based on Africa so they are mostly African themed.. (I don't know if that's a disadvantage or otherwise).
I hope to continue sharing my experience as the weeks and months pass.

 ;D




« Last Edit: December 06, 2015, 07:54 by damseremie »


« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2015, 23:43 »
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"I'll like to estimate for example, how many clips might I need to achieve a 500 dollar income monthly?"

One good one, or 1000 bad ones.

« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2015, 01:59 »
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Hi Everyone
I am pretty new to stock footage. Just started yesterday.
I do have some old footage that I am cutting up though
Looking to create a side income besides regular the camera work and editing which I freelance on.
I have looked through the forum and I  see right now most people are on SS,P5 and then VideoBlocks.
I have decided to go with those 3 for now.
I know this varies based on subject matter and the sheer quality of the clip but....
What I would like to know are your average clip numbers for each site and your equivalent monthly income? , if you feel ok sharing.  ;D  ;D
I am hoping i can get any average from different people and estimate how many quality clips (and how much time) I would need to put in to achieve my income goals.

I'll like to estimate for example, how many clips might I need to achieve a 500 dollar income monthly?

I have currently submitted about 30 clips. Awaiting approval on all 3 sites mentioned.I am based on Africa so they are mostly African themed.. (I don't know if that's a disadvantage or otherwise).
I hope to continue charing my experience as the weeks and months pass.

 ;D

Here are my numbers:
Number of clips in SS: 35
Duration: more than a year
Total income: $0

Number of clips I need to get $500 per month: Infinity

« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2015, 02:40 »
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November:
SS: 534$ (~1460 clips)
VB: 297$ (~1200 clips)
P5: 552$ (~1650 clips)
December: till now (same number of clips)
SS: 207$
VB: 66$
P5: 423$

« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2015, 07:23 »
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I have a little more than 200 clips on each of SS and P5, about 100 on iS (stopped submitting there) and a few on VB recently (just started there, no sales yet).  All very basic.

During 2015, I seem to have averaged somewhat more than $200/month overall;  it's been about $1.20/clip/month across all sites, though most income is from SS and P5.

Based on that, I'd guess you'd need about 500 clips on those two sites at least to make $500/month.

But my stuff is very simple and not the kind of thing to be in much demand, you could do much better.

« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2015, 08:01 »
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Here are my numbers:
Number of clips in SS: 35
Duration: more than a year
Total income: $0

Number of clips I need to get $500 per month: Infinity

Ouch! Though the clips are few... I think you should have made more
Why didn't you submit to other sites? What niche are you in?

« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2015, 08:05 »
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November:
SS: 534$ (~1460 clips)
VB: 297$ (~1200 clips)
P5: 552$ (~1650 clips)
December: till now (same number of clips)
SS: 207$
VB: 66$
P5: 423$

Interesting... I really appreciate you sharing...So for November ,your income was (534+297+552) is $1383.
For about the same average number of clips(1300) across the major income sites.
December will be larger but December is never an average month  ;D

« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2015, 08:11 »
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I have a little more than 200 clips on each of SS and P5, about 100 on iS (stopped submitting there) and a few on VB recently (just started there, no sales yet).  All very basic.

During 2015, I seem to have averaged somewhat more than $200/month overall;  it's been about $1.20/clip/month across all sites, though most income is from SS and P5.

Based on that, I'd guess you'd need about 500 clips on those two sites at least to make $500/month.

But my stuff is very simple and not the kind of thing to be in much demand, you could do much better.

Nice observation....
Let's hear from others but it seems a pattern is forming :)
It seems for an average contributor, (without any insanely popular clips and if clips are posted on the 3 sites)
Number of Clips ===is approximately equal=== to monthly Income

« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2015, 10:35 »
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November:
SS: 534$ (~1460 clips)
VB: 297$ (~1200 clips)
P5: 552$ (~1650 clips)
December: till now (same number of clips)
SS: 207$
VB: 66$
P5: 423$

Interesting... I really appreciate you sharing...So for November ,your income was (534+297+552) is $1383.
For about the same average number of clips(1300) across the major income sites.
December will be larger but December is never an average month  ;D

I have about 800 clips and don't make anything near alijaber. Not even close. So it isn't just about numbers, it is about subject matter. Clearly alijaber has content buyers want, me not so much.  Numbers is a completely different game than content that is in demand. You can have a hand full of good clips and do well or you can have 800 ham n eggers like me and not do super well. I make about $75 to $125 a month on SS, for example. I have some animations and a lot of beach stuff.  My animations sell way better than my beach stuff.
« Last Edit: December 06, 2015, 14:24 by Mantis »

« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2015, 10:46 »
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1800 clips on SS and pond 5 usually I make about 1000$ on SS and 600$ on pond5 more or less every month


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« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2015, 13:44 »
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I have a little more than 200 clips on each of SS and P5, about 100 on iS (stopped submitting there) and a few on VB recently (just started there, no sales yet).  All very basic.

During 2015, I seem to have averaged somewhat more than $200/month overall;  it's been about $1.20/clip/month across all sites, though most income is from SS and P5.

Based on that, I'd guess you'd need about 500 clips on those two sites at least to make $500/month.

But my stuff is very simple and not the kind of thing to be in much demand, you could do much better.

Nice observation....
Let's hear from others but it seems a pattern is forming :)
It seems for an average contributor, (without any insanely popular clips and if clips are posted on the 3 sites)
Number of Clips ===is approximately equal=== to monthly Income

Of course, there is a law of diminishing returns... if you have 250 clips and make $250/month, say, then you add another 250 clips of similar subjects, it's not likely that your income will double.  You have to have variety too.

KB

« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2015, 13:45 »
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Number of Clips ===is approximately equal=== to monthly Income
That's an interesting observation, and does seem to be approximately true for me, too.

However, looking back, 3 years ago it was more like 2:1, $:clips. 2 years ago and last year, more like 1.5:1.

So while my portfolio size has been increasing, the ratio has been decreasing. My overall, average income has increased only about 10% over the last 3 years, while my portfolio size has just about doubled. So running hard just to stay in place.

« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2015, 21:24 »
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I can tell you straight away that your quest for numbers as a way to quantify and understand this business means less than what you think,you will eventually realize that as i did.
I can give you a number for ss for the last 2 months for example which was 1100-1200 with 1400 clips but that doesnt explain these past 2 months like it cant explain the 3 months before that where it was less that half or these 2 and it certainly cant explain the 6 months prior to the last 5 where it was 200-400 usd with almost the same portfolio.
Same for pond5.
One month it can be 800,the next 1500 the one after that 1000 and so on and so forth.

Number of clips (quantity) regardless of what everyone tells you is the worst way to ensure a stable income.
You will need diversity and luck.Actually a LOT of luck, i find that to be more important than hard work and quality.

This is a lottery in a way.You can create hundreds of clips fairly quick and easy that wont necessarily be of low value, but the one that will make you money is the one you will have shot in the right place at the right time with the right light,subject,duration,lens,upload date,keywords,and it will make up for most of your forever unsold clips.And many times it will catch you by surprise and propably piss you off because it sells and the next best similar clip that you put time and money (and sometimes love) into isn't being noticed at all.
That doesnt mean you cant research what these clips will be and try to create them,im saying that things rarely go the way you hope.
The more you go out and plan the more the chances to capture these clips.

There are more details to these,thankfully a lot of people have discussed and written them down over the years and given time and reading you can demistify this business to a degree.
But you will be forever in the dark like everyone else,with a little candle shining some light every now and then.
And i dont believe for a second that someone has a formula to know what to shoot.Only experience, which saves a bit of time and effort.



« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2015, 22:20 »
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I can tell you straight away that your quest for numbers as a way to quantify and understand this business means less than what you think,you will eventually realize that as i did.
I can give you a number for ss for the last 2 months for example which was 1100-1200 with 1400 clips but that doesnt explain these past 2 months like it cant explain the 3 months before that where it was less that half or these 2 and it certainly cant explain the 6 months prior to the last 5 where it was 200-400 usd with almost the same portfolio.
Same for pond5.
One month it can be 800,the next 1500 the one after that 1000 and so on and so forth.

Number of clips (quantity) regardless of what everyone tells you is the worst way to ensure a stable income.
You will need diversity and luck.Actually a LOT of luck, i find that to be more important than hard work and quality.

This is a lottery in a way.You can create hundreds of clips fairly quick and easy that wont necessarily be of low value, but the one that will make you money is the one you will have shot in the right place at the right time with the right light,subject,duration,lens,upload date,keywords,and it will make up for most of your forever unsold clips.And many times it will catch you by surprise and propably piss you off because it sells and the next best similar clip that you put time and money (and sometimes love) into isn't being noticed at all.
That doesnt mean you cant research what these clips will be and try to create them,im saying that things rarely go the way you hope.
The more you go out and plan the more the chances to capture these clips.

There are more details to these,thankfully a lot of people have discussed and written them down over the years and given time and reading you can demistify this business to a degree.
But you will be forever in the dark like everyone else,with a little candle shining some light every now and then.
And i dont believe for a second that someone has a formula to know what to shoot.Only experience, which saves a bit of time and effort.

Good summary

« Reply #14 on: December 06, 2015, 22:53 »
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Here are my numbers:
Number of clips in SS: 35
Duration: more than a year
Total income: $0

Number of clips I need to get $500 per month: Infinity

Ouch! Though the clips are few... I think you should have made more
Why didn't you submit to other sites? What niche are you in?

Mostly travel type. I tried 123RF and Pond5 (only a few) too. No luck. And gave it up...
I think I better stick to my strengths, i.e. photography. At least, that's what I enjoy most.

« Reply #15 on: December 07, 2015, 02:22 »
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November:
SS: 534$ (~1460 clips)
VB: 297$ (~1200 clips)
P5: 552$ (~1650 clips)
December: till now (same number of clips)
SS: 207$
VB: 66$
P5: 423$
What gcrook said is 100% true.
I forgot to mention fotolia: Nov: 0$ (250 clips), Dec: 0$ ( 250 clips).. waiting Adobe impact
Don't waste your time on DT, 123RF: very very low number of sales.
Also don't waste your time on IS: humiliating percentage for contributors

« Reply #16 on: December 07, 2015, 04:57 »
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"I'll like to estimate for example, how many clips might I need to achieve a 500 dollar income monthly?"

One good one, or 1000 bad ones.
I'm trying to do 1000 bad ones :)

ACS

« Reply #17 on: December 07, 2015, 08:16 »
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...Actually a LOT of luck, i find that to be more important than hard work and quality.

This is a lottery in a way.You can create hundreds of clips fairly quick and easy that wont necessarily be of low value, but the one that will make you money is the one you will have shot in the right place at the right time with the right light,subject,duration,lens,upload date,keywords,and it will make up for most of your forever unsold clips.And many times it will catch you by surprise and propably piss you off because it sells and the next best similar clip that you put time and money (and sometimes love) into isn't being noticed at all.
That doesnt mean you cant research what these clips will be and try to create them,im saying that things rarely go the way you hope.
The more you go out and plan the more the chances to capture these clips...

Very well said.

In the last 3 years, 1 of my video files made almost %50 of my all footage sales in SS. I have 500 videos there.

Search placement is everything and I think it is mostly related to luck.


« Reply #18 on: December 07, 2015, 08:25 »
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1800 clips on SS and pond 5 usually I make about 1000$ on SS and 600$ on pond5 more or less every month


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Hmm.. Thanks.. That kind of goes with the weird pattern

« Reply #19 on: December 07, 2015, 08:25 »
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...Actually a LOT of luck, i find that to be more important than hard work and quality.

This is a lottery in a way.You can create hundreds of clips fairly quick and easy that wont necessarily be of low value, but the one that will make you money is the one you will have shot in the right place at the right time with the right light,subject,duration,lens,upload date,keywords,and it will make up for most of your forever unsold clips.And many times it will catch you by surprise and propably piss you off because it sells and the next best similar clip that you put time and money (and sometimes love) into isn't being noticed at all.
That doesnt mean you cant research what these clips will be and try to create them,im saying that things rarely go the way you hope.
The more you go out and plan the more the chances to capture these clips...

Very well said.

In the last 3 years, 1 of my video files made almost %50 of my all footage sales in SS. I have 500 videos there.

Search placement is everything and I think it is mostly related to luck.

Search placement AND getting rid of the stupid sale-killer filter.

« Reply #20 on: December 07, 2015, 08:29 »
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Of course, there is a law of diminishing returns... if you have 250 clips and make $250/month, say, then you add another 250 clips of similar subjects, it's not likely that your income will double.  You have to have variety too.

True words...
Naturally due to competition, one cannot expect to keep making the same amount of money from the same clips over time.
I besides my location, I don't plan to stick to any particular niche (Create as much variety as possible)

So today I could be shooting Food... and Tomorrow Hilltop Establishment Shots

« Reply #21 on: December 07, 2015, 08:38 »
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Actually a LOT of luck, i find that to be more important than hard work and quality.

This is a lottery in a way.You can create hundreds of clips fairly quick and easy that wont necessarily be of low value, but the one that will make you money is the one you will have shot in the right place at the right time with the right light,subject,duration,lens,upload date,keywords,and it will make up for most of your forever unsold clips.And many times it will catch you by surprise and propably piss you off because it sells and the next best similar clip that you put time and money (and sometimes love) into isn't being noticed at all.
That doesnt mean you cant research what these clips will be and try to create them,im saying that things rarely go the way you hope.
The more you go out and plan the more the chances to capture these clips.

There are more details to these,thankfully a lot of people have discussed and written them down over the years and given time and reading you can demistify this business to a degree.
But you will be forever in the dark like everyone else,with a little candle shining some light every now and then.
And i dont believe for a second that someone has a formula to know what to shoot.Only experience, which saves a bit of time and effort.

Well said ... Verrry
It's never straight up mathematics ;) ,
there's a lot of luck involved. Similar to the App Business, which I have a little foot in as well
I'll be documenting how this goes for me though. Maybe I'll make a new thread just for that

« Reply #22 on: December 07, 2015, 08:43 »
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That's an interesting observation, and does seem to be approximately true for me, too.

However, looking back, 3 years ago it was more like 2:1, $:clips. 2 years ago and last year, more like 1.5:1.

So while my portfolio size has been increasing, the ratio has been decreasing. My overall, average income has increased only about 10% over the last 3 years, while my portfolio size has just about doubled. So running hard just to stay in place.

Hmm... Probably as a result of consistently increasing Competition... So it will only get tougher... Well,  :) , lets see how this goes...

« Reply #23 on: December 07, 2015, 08:49 »
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Very well said.

In the last 3 years, 1 of my video files made almost %50 of my all footage sales in SS. I have 500 videos there.

Search placement is everything and I think it is mostly related to luck.

Wow! Interesting
Must be a really popular clip

ACS

« Reply #24 on: December 07, 2015, 10:29 »
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Very well said.

In the last 3 years, 1 of my video files made almost %50 of my all footage sales in SS. I have 500 videos there.

Search placement is everything and I think it is mostly related to luck.

Wow! Interesting
Must be a really popular clip

Very popular indeed. (It is a handheld video taken in a train station >> not a very interesting subject!)

« Reply #25 on: December 07, 2015, 11:02 »
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And a few tips for those of you first starting out....

Invest in a good, solid, stable tripod with a fluid head that allows
you to pan and tilt smoothly. It will cost you but the investment will pay off.

Create a 2 or 3 second "establishing shot" before you pan or tilt when
possible. An example: You want to pan from a bridge to a bumper to
bumper congested highway. Allow 2-3 seconds static on the bridge
before panning to the highway. The bridge is your "establishing shot".
and provides the viewer time to recognize where you are in relation-
ship to the congested highway.

Don't pan or tilt unnecessarily. Movement within the frame is your motivation
for following the action. All-too-often I see clips where pans and/or tilts
are used unnecessarily. The action within the frame is your motivation
for movement in most cases.

AND, if there's movement that you're capturing, use the 3/4 technique.
In other words, don't frame the action center framed. Allow more room
in the framing in front of the action. Example: You're panning as you
follow a race car. Leave more room in front of the car within your framing.
This can be applied to any action you're following. A pedestrian crossing
a street. A bird in flight. You name it.....

Pay attention to how action is captured by professionals. TV and sporting
events should be good reference.

I've been a videographer for many years. When I first started out in
broadcasting I was as raw as they come. I remember one of the directors
tieing a tire to the studio lighting grid and swinging it  back and forth.
He told me to frame the tire with my studio camera as it swung back
and forth on the grid. Sounds simplistic but it helped a greenhorn learn
how to frame properly.

Practice makes perfect. The more quality clips, the more motivated buyers
will be to look to agencies for the shot they need for their production.....

ACS

« Reply #26 on: December 07, 2015, 11:25 »
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And a few tips for those of you first starting out....

Invest in a good, solid, stable tripod with a fluid head that allows
you to pan and tilt smoothly. It will cost you but the investment will pay off.

Create a 2 or 3 second "establishing shot" before you pan or tilt when
possible. An example: You want to pan from a bridge to a bumper to
bumper congested highway. Allow 2-3 seconds static on the bridge
before panning to the highway. The bridge is your "establishing shot".
and provides the viewer time to recognize where you are in relation-
ship to the congested highway.

Don't pan or tilt unnecessarily. Movement within the frame is your motivation
for following the action. All-too-often I see clips where pans and/or tilts
are used unnecessarily. The action within the frame is your motivation
for movement in most cases.

AND, if there's movement that you're capturing, use the 3/4 technique.
In other words, don't frame the action center framed. Allow more room
in the framing in front of the action. Example: You're panning as you
follow a race car. Leave more room in front of the car within your framing.
This can be applied to any action you're following. A pedestrian crossing
a street. A bird in flight. You name it.....

Pay attention to how action is captured by professionals. TV and sporting
events should be good reference.

I've been a videographer for many years. When I first started out in
broadcasting I was as raw as they come. I remember one of the directors
tieing a tire to the studio lighting grid and swinging it  back and forth.
He told me to frame the tire with my studio camera as it swung back
and forth on the grid. Sounds simplistic but it helped a greenhorn learn
how to frame properly.

Practice makes perfect. The more quality clips, the more motivated buyers
will be to look to agencies for the shot they need for their production.....

Thanks. Would you suggest any tripod with fluid head for smooth panning? I have an old Manfrotto probably designed for photography so I can't pan smoothly. My cameras are Sony cx900e and Nikon D5300, not heavy pro things.
« Last Edit: December 07, 2015, 11:44 by ACS »

« Reply #27 on: December 07, 2015, 20:17 »
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"Thanks. Would you suggest any tripod with fluid head for smooth panning?"

Tripods are as individualistic as you are. There are so many factors that play into
the choice you make - and the tripod that best suites your needs. Budget, weight and subject matter (wildlife vs studio setup for example) are, in my opinion, the three  main factors that play into your decision. I love combining cycling with shooting so I need a tripod that's compact, light and can be packed in a saddle bag on the back of my bike (my portfolio with SS and P5, BTW, encompasses everything from landscape/nature/wildlife to outdoor sporting events). What suites me may not be the best choice for you.

Bring your cameras to a store and try out their tripods. Is there one that fits your budget and best suites your needs? Please don't order online before taking it for a test drive!

One last thing I'd like to add: Audio. Wind noise in a clip is a sure sign of an amateur production. I use a lav microphone with a wind sock (about $150 Cdn) to capture audio. Very small. Very versatile. Very clean audio).

« Reply #28 on: December 10, 2015, 09:05 »
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It somewhat related news...

It's been about 2 weeks, pond5 still haven't verified my ID ?.
Is their support typically this slow?

I'm still uploading via ftp though I can't see the clips since my ID hasn't been verified.

By the way, I have now uploaded about 50 clips to SS,P5 and VB...
Havent gotten reviewed yet... So fingers crossed

« Reply #29 on: December 10, 2015, 11:32 »
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for me...
about 1$ per image per month and about 2$ per clip per month.
I'm on many agencies.

probably that shutterstock is half of that average.

500$ would mean about 500 correct clip.

« Reply #30 on: December 10, 2015, 17:47 »
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One good one, or 1000 bad ones.

1000 bad clips could in fact get you one inadvertently good clip, so $500 for the one and $500 for the rest, which is still $1 / clip, which is horrible.

weathernewsonline

« Reply #31 on: December 11, 2015, 07:15 »
+1
It somewhat related news...

It's been about 2 weeks, pond5 still haven't verified my ID ?.
Is their support typically this slow?

I'm still uploading via ftp though I can't see the clips since my ID hasn't been verified.

By the way, I have now uploaded about 50 clips to SS,P5 and VB...
Havent gotten reviewed yet... So fingers crossed

Email pond5 support directly on the verifying your ID issue just to make sure they got it and all is in order, expect a long wait time for clips to be reviewed at P5 right now, they are swamped and it's been posted by their admin on their forums to expect delays into January before they catch up, even SS reviews have bogged down a bit....keep uploading 24/7 to all three sites, you want 50,000 clips up there not just 50 :)

« Reply #32 on: December 11, 2015, 08:55 »
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Email pond5 support directly on the verifying your ID issue just to make sure they got it and all is in order, expect a long wait time for clips to be reviewed at P5 right now, they are swamped and it's been posted by their admin on their forums to expect delays into January before they catch up, even SS reviews have bogged down a bit....keep uploading 24/7 to all three sites, you want 50,000 clips up there not just 50 :)

Thanks for the heads up...
I'll keep uploading ... and i'll email them as well

« Reply #33 on: December 11, 2015, 12:57 »
+1
I just just sold a 199$ on Videoblock. Out of nowhere.
I have 1000+ clip there and it's the fist time I sell a 4K clip.
that give me 179$
so that will pimp up my stats !

:D

« Reply #34 on: December 11, 2015, 14:08 »
+1
One good one, or 1000 bad ones.

1000 bad clips could in fact get you one inadvertently good clip, so $500 for the one and $500 for the rest, which is still $1 / clip, which is horrible.

I think you'll find most people would be very satisfied with $1 per clip/month. I fall shot of that however I'm fairly sure I'm well above the average of what contributors make per clip/month. I have almost 4000 clips of large variety so have plenty of figures to go off.

« Reply #35 on: December 11, 2015, 15:21 »
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I think you'll find most people would be very satisfied with $1 per clip/month. I fall shot of that however I'm fairly sure I'm well above the average of what contributors make per clip/month. I have almost 4000 clips of large variety so have plenty of figures to go off.

Most people also take a quantity over quality approach. That usually doesn't end well.

« Reply #36 on: December 11, 2015, 17:01 »
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I think you'll find most people would be very satisfied with $1 per clip/month. I fall shot of that however I'm fairly sure I'm well above the average of what contributors make per clip/month. I have almost 4000 clips of large variety so have plenty of figures to go off.

Care to share any in detail?

« Reply #37 on: February 06, 2016, 15:13 »
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YIPPPEEEE!!!! :D
SO I just sold my first ever stock footage clip and it was VB, which mean I get $33 after tax.
It's a small amount of money I know... but I thought I should share... took over a month and I currently have about 70 clips on VB and SS.
Time to step it up I guess

alno

« Reply #38 on: February 12, 2016, 04:29 »
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I think very imortant thing is not only number or quality of clips but also lifetime of clip after uploaded. Video related process is long usually and it's quite rare case you have your clip sold after a week or two after upload for example. It also takes some time for the clip to become popular (you can see popularity on SS viewing your own page with default filter Popular applied) although I had some less popular sells.

SS, food and cooking only: $314 total in 6 months, 525 clips, number has increased greatly 2-3 months ago. 12 different clips were sold, some twice.
Here is the gallery: http://www.shutterstock.com/video/gallery/3329813/
 

« Reply #39 on: February 12, 2016, 17:16 »
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SS, food and cooking only: $314 total in 6 months, 525 clips, number has increased greatly 2-3 months ago. 12 different clips were sold, some twice.
Here is the gallery: http://www.shutterstock.com/video/gallery/3329813/
 


Any particular reason why you are SS only? rather than expanding to VB and Pond5 as well?

« Reply #40 on: February 12, 2016, 21:32 »
+1
4000+ clips for average $300 per month from three agencies. Average per clip 13.3 cents per month.

« Reply #41 on: February 13, 2016, 14:05 »
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4000+ clips for average $300 per month from three agencies. Average per clip 13.3 cents per month.
WOW!
seems like very low numbers for the amount of portfolio
what type of footage do you specialize in?


« Reply #42 on: February 13, 2016, 19:34 »
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4000+ clips for average $300 per month from three agencies. Average per clip 13.3 cents per month.
WOW!
seems like very low numbers for the amount of portfolio
what type of footage do you specialize in?

It's probably about average. IMO many people seriously inflate their figures to make themselves feel better. The reality is there are a lot of clips out there and only a few are doing really well. I take all sorts of subjects, mostly outdoors, nature etc.

« Reply #43 on: February 13, 2016, 19:52 »
+2
4000+ clips for average $300 per month from three agencies. Average per clip 13.3 cents per month.
WOW!
seems like very low numbers for the amount of portfolio
what type of footage do you specialize in?

It's probably about average. IMO many people seriously inflate their figures to make themselves feel better. The reality is there are a lot of clips out there and only a few are doing really well. I take all sorts of subjects, mostly outdoors, nature etc.

Come on, really? When I say I make a million bucks with my one clip I mean it!! ;D

KB

« Reply #44 on: February 13, 2016, 20:23 »
0
4000+ clips for average $300 per month from three agencies. Average per clip 13.3 cents per month.
4000 * 13.3c = $532.00
4500 * 13.3c = $598.50

So I'm confused by "$300 per month from three agencies". I don't know if that means $300 total or $900 total, but neither number matches 13.3 cents per month average.

« Reply #45 on: February 13, 2016, 21:31 »
+1
4000+ clips for average $300 per month from three agencies. Average per clip 13.3 cents per month.
4000 * 13.3c = $532.00
4500 * 13.3c = $598.50

So I'm confused by "$300 per month from three agencies". I don't know if that means $300 total or $900 total, but neither number matches 13.3 cents per month average.

Yes you are correct, I only earn 7.5 cents per clip per month. Got my maths wrong. Three agencies, $300 from all agencies. People think footage is going to dig them out of their photography hole but they are going to be disappointed.

« Reply #46 on: February 13, 2016, 22:35 »
0
4000+ clips for average $300 per month from three agencies. Average per clip 13.3 cents per month.
4000 * 13.3c = $532.00
4500 * 13.3c = $598.50

So I'm confused by "$300 per month from three agencies". I don't know if that means $300 total or $900 total, but neither number matches 13.3 cents per month average.

Yes you are correct, I only earn 7.5 cents per clip per month. Got my maths wrong. Three agencies, $300 from all agencies. People think footage is going to dig them out of their photography hole but they are going to be disappointed.

It's helped me generate hundreds more per month.....way more than I'd be able to do with images. This is a port of about 900 ham n egger generic stuff.

« Reply #47 on: February 14, 2016, 03:08 »
0

Yes you are correct, I only earn 7.5 cents per clip per month. Got my maths wrong. Three agencies, $300 from all agencies. People think footage is going to dig them out of their photography hole but they are going to be disappointed.

Different strokes indeed...
My first month of sales on 2 sites so far, about 70 clips averagely and made $55

« Reply #48 on: February 14, 2016, 04:14 »
+1
For me it is like this with about my average portfolio size on every agency.

good month: about 3$ per clip
bad month: about 2$ per clip

But I have a slow internet connection, so I only upload the best. I am pretty sure my numbers would more be like 0,5$ per month per clip if I uploaded every video.
And to newer agencies I only upload proven sellers.


alno

« Reply #49 on: February 14, 2016, 04:24 »
0
SS, food and cooking only: $314 total in 6 months, 525 clips, number has increased greatly 2-3 months ago. 12 different clips were sold, some twice.
Here is the gallery: http://www.shutterstock.com/video/gallery/3329813/
 


Any particular reason why you are SS only? rather than expanding to VB and Pond5 as well?


It's just an example. Other agencies brought less so far.

« Reply #50 on: February 14, 2016, 10:23 »
+3
1700 clips on P5, avg 80/month

Most of my clips are travel related.

« Reply #51 on: February 14, 2016, 10:54 »
+2
Exclusive 4600 clips - on average $2100 a month.
I'm just about to go non-exclusive and I'm a little surprised by some of the low amounts?
I only do video stock - I have no photo's in my portfolio.

« Reply #52 on: February 14, 2016, 16:12 »
+2
Exclusive 4600 clips - on average $2100 a month.
I'm just about to go non-exclusive and I'm a little surprised by some of the low amounts?
I only do video stock - I have no photo's in my portfolio.

You would be in the top 1%. Most people are struggling. Photographers think video is easy, but it's not.

« Reply #53 on: February 14, 2016, 18:19 »
+1
I don't think it's easy - that's why I keep mine very simple.

I averaged about $1/clip/month during 2015.  Which I was quite pleased with, given how simple mine are.

alno

« Reply #54 on: February 15, 2016, 09:42 »
0
I don't think it's easy - that's why I keep mine very simple.

I averaged about $1/clip/month during 2015.  Which I was quite pleased with, given how simple mine are.

What is approximate lifetime on sites of the clips sold in 2015?

« Reply #55 on: February 15, 2016, 12:19 »
0
I don't think it's easy - that's why I keep mine very simple.

I averaged about $1/clip/month during 2015.  Which I was quite pleased with, given how simple mine are.

What is approximate lifetime on sites of the clips sold in 2015?

Do you mean how long did it take before they sold?

I don't think I can answer that, I don't keep records that detailed;  but I started uploading video towards the end of 2011, and on average I've only uploaded a couple per month - I don't do a lot.

Of the more recently uploaded, I see it taking 6 - 9 months before any sold - in fact only 5 of those uploaded in 2015 have sold so far, but some of the older ones sold multiple times during the year.  As with photos, if they happen to catch on, they can do quite well.  It's a long game, you don't get quick returns, but in my case at least it has just about made up for the decline in photo sales over the same period.

And it's fun...  don't forget to enjoy it...


« Reply #56 on: February 15, 2016, 13:42 »
+1
1800+ clips. About $6000/month.

« Reply #57 on: February 15, 2016, 15:06 »
0
1800+ clips. About $6000/month.

If these stats were true what would motivate you to broadcast them, it doesn't make any sense, therefore I'm very skeptical

« Reply #58 on: February 15, 2016, 15:24 »
+2
 Those stats could be true, I have seen ports like that.

fritz

  • I love Tom and Jerry music

« Reply #59 on: February 15, 2016, 15:46 »
0


What port? I see no link

« Reply #60 on: February 15, 2016, 16:18 »
+6
1800+ clips. About $6000/month.

If these stats were true what would motivate you to broadcast them, it doesn't make any sense, therefore I'm very skeptical

There's definitely people that make that or better. It's possible to make money at stock, but it it takes a lot of work. If you think you can make that kind of money by just shooting stuff in your backyard, it's not going to happen. But if you work hard and try to improve on every shoot, it's possible. Too many people fill their portfolio with a ton of average footage. I don't upload average stuff, every video that I upload, I have done my best to make sure it's the best I could possibly make it and then try to figure out how I can make my next shoot even better.

« Reply #61 on: February 15, 2016, 16:38 »
+4
I make a living at stock video but it isn't easy! Love it and no I am not posting my numbers.

« Reply #62 on: February 15, 2016, 18:28 »
0
1800+ clips. About $6000/month.

Wow.. that's Awesome!
Beginner here, would love to see a link to your portfolio if you are willing to share...
I'll love to learn what sells and why,  :D
Improve myself gradually...
I know it will take a while to see any level of success but i'm willing to work at this and get better with each shoot and each upload.

Rose Tinted Glasses

« Reply #63 on: February 15, 2016, 18:30 »
+2
1800+ clips. About $6000/month.

If these stats were true what would motivate you to broadcast them, it doesn't make any sense, therefore I'm very skeptical

There's definitely people that make that or better. It's possible to make money at stock, but it it takes a lot of work. If you think you can make that kind of money by just shooting stuff in your backyard, it's not going to happen. But if you work hard and try to improve on every shoot, it's possible. Too many people fill their portfolio with a ton of average footage. I don't upload average stuff, every video that I upload, I have done my best to make sure it's the best I could possibly make it and then try to figure out how I can make my next shoot even better.

That is just common sense. Unfortunately most people do not quite understand this.

« Reply #64 on: February 16, 2016, 05:46 »
0

That is just common sense. Unfortunately most people do not quite understand this.

well said

« Reply #65 on: February 17, 2016, 13:23 »
+1
WOOOHHOOO! ;D
New Milestone ....First 4k Clip sold... It's an animated clip though since I don't have a 4k camera.
It sold on Videoblocks, and i get taxed 30% but that's still $134 for me.
Takes me up $200 from 80 clips so far this month.
(2 HD at $33 each and one 4k at $134)
Even if it"s just beginner's luck, it's encouraged me to keep at it.
My target is 500 quality clips by June with an average for $500 monthly...

Just sharing this to encourage others same way i was encouraged when I decided to start this in December.

« Reply #66 on: February 17, 2016, 17:08 »
0
CRAP! :'( :'(

Just got this...

Hello,

We're reaching out concerning your content which was purchased on February 17th, 2016.

These purchases were due to fraudulent activity on the website. We will be issuing refunds for the fraudulent purchases to return the funds to the card holder and these clips will be removed from your sales history. This account and associated information has been blocked permanently.

Our team has made cutting out refunds a top priority, and well continue to work to reduce any confusion about purchases or fraud on our site. Customer and contributor satisfaction is at the core of what we stand for at VideoBlocks and we will continue reduce any instances of refunds in the future. Thanks for your understanding.

If you have further questions or would like to talk more about this instance, please feel free to respond to this email or give us a call at +1-888-802-7316.

Thanks,
- The VideoBlocks Team

« Reply #67 on: February 17, 2016, 19:45 »
0
CRAP! :'( :'(

Just got this...

Hello,

We're reaching out concerning your content which was purchased on February 17th, 2016.

These purchases were due to fraudulent activity on the website. We will be issuing refunds for the fraudulent purchases to return the funds to the card holder and these clips will be removed from your sales history. This account and associated information has been blocked permanently.

Our team has made cutting out refunds a top priority, and well continue to work to reduce any confusion about purchases or fraud on our site. Customer and contributor satisfaction is at the core of what we stand for at VideoBlocks and we will continue reduce any instances of refunds in the future. Thanks for your understanding.

If you have further questions or would like to talk more about this instance, please feel free to respond to this email or give us a call at +1-888-802-7316.

Thanks,
- The VideoBlocks Team


Sorry to here that!
I just don't understand the fraudulent credit card refunds.
Who in there right mind would steal a credit card to then buy stock footage of all things???
Am I missing something? Or is it just an excuse from the stock agencies?

« Reply #68 on: February 18, 2016, 00:52 »
0
Don't count on VB sales as a sale until they clear.
« Last Edit: February 18, 2016, 04:07 by pkphotos »

« Reply #69 on: February 18, 2016, 01:37 »
0

Sorry to here that!
I just don't understand the fraudulent credit card refunds.
Who in there right mind would steal a credit card to then buy stock footage of all things???
Am I missing something? Or is it just an excuse from the stock agencies?
Thanks
My initial thoughts exactly especially since basically the exact same clip sold in HD the day before, I suspected it was the same person who bought a 4k version, downloaded and then claimed a missing credit card to get a refund.
Why indeed steal a credit card and buy stock footage? Seems like a really weird choice

But VideoBlocks insists otherwise, so we grudgingly accept  :) :)

They are in control, for all you know, you could be selling a lot more clips and only a few get reported back to you  ;D
The issue of refunds for intangible products is a very dicey one


So fingers crossed... I hope it's the exception and keep moving on.

« Reply #70 on: February 18, 2016, 01:39 »
0
Don't count on VB sales and a sale until they clear.
Seems like a great assessment 
Will do
:)

alno

« Reply #71 on: February 18, 2016, 05:57 »
0
CRAP! :'( :'(

Just got this...

Hello,

We're reaching out concerning your content which was purchased on February 17th, 2016.

These purchases were due to fraudulent activity on the website. We will be issuing refunds for the fraudulent purchases to return the funds to the card holder and these clips will be removed from your sales history. This account and associated information has been blocked permanently.

Our team has made cutting out refunds a top priority, and well continue to work to reduce any confusion about purchases or fraud on our site. Customer and contributor satisfaction is at the core of what we stand for at VideoBlocks and we will continue reduce any instances of refunds in the future. Thanks for your understanding.

If you have further questions or would like to talk more about this instance, please feel free to respond to this email or give us a call at +1-888-802-7316.

Thanks,
- The VideoBlocks Team

It seems to be an excellent business to buy a big bunch of 4k clips then make a refund. Once you have you money back you still have the clips as well :)

SpaceStockFootage

  • Space, Sci-Fi and Astronomy Related Stock Footage

« Reply #72 on: February 18, 2016, 06:57 »
+2
Averages for the last three months or so...

Artbeats Express: $30 - 20 clips
SS: $50 - 20 clips
iS: $20 - 20 clips
ME: $15 - 20 clips
P5: $125 - 175 clips
VideoHive Non-Exclusive: $250 - 40 clips
VideoHive Exclusive: $850 - 267 clips

Just had a bunch of clips approved on VB so hoping I might get some action there. The majority of my stuff is motion graphics though, rather than footage, just so you know.

« Reply #73 on: February 18, 2016, 08:16 »
0
Averages for the last three months or so...

Artbeats Express: $30 - 20 clips
SS: $50 - 20 clips
iS: $20 - 20 clips
ME: $15 - 20 clips
P5: $125 - 175 clips
VideoHive Non-Exclusive: $250 - 40 clips
VideoHive Exclusive: $850 - 267 clips

Just had a bunch of clips approved on VB so hoping I might get some action there. The majority of my stuff is motion graphics though, rather than footage, just so you know.

VB completely dead for me. Not a sale in 3 months going on 4 with about 1,000 videos.

« Reply #74 on: February 18, 2016, 09:51 »
0
CRAP! :'( :'(

Just got this...

Hello,

We're reaching out concerning your content which was purchased on February 17th, 2016.

These purchases were due to fraudulent activity on the website. We will be issuing refunds for the fraudulent purchases to return the funds to the card holder and these clips will be removed from your sales history. This account and associated information has been blocked permanently.

Our team has made cutting out refunds a top priority, and well continue to work to reduce any confusion about purchases or fraud on our site. Customer and contributor satisfaction is at the core of what we stand for at VideoBlocks and we will continue reduce any instances of refunds in the future. Thanks for your understanding.

If you have further questions or would like to talk more about this instance, please feel free to respond to this email or give us a call at +1-888-802-7316.

Thanks,
- The VideoBlocks Team

It seems to be an excellent business to buy a big bunch of 4k clips then make a refund. Once you have you money back you still have the clips as well :)

That would be considered stealing and if a business was caught doing that, I would guess they would be sued. I think that most business and people are honest enough not to do that and if they're not honest, they would fear being caught enough to not try it.

You could just as easily say that it seems to be an excellent business to rob convenient stores and banks.

SpaceStockFootage

  • Space, Sci-Fi and Astronomy Related Stock Footage

« Reply #75 on: February 19, 2016, 04:14 »
0
Averages for the last three months or so...

Artbeats Express: $30 - 20 clips
SS: $50 - 20 clips
iS: $20 - 20 clips
ME: $15 - 20 clips
P5: $125 - 175 clips
VideoHive Non-Exclusive: $250 - 40 clips
VideoHive Exclusive: $850 - 267 clips

Just had a bunch of clips approved on VB so hoping I might get some action there. The majority of my stuff is motion graphics though, rather than footage, just so you know.

VB completely dead for me. Not a sale in 3 months going on 4 with about 1,000 videos.

Yeah, seems like it might not be the promised land that some are making it out to be. I've uploaded my core bunch of clips and we'll see how it goes. Quick question... do you get any kind of notification when you sell a clip, like the daily sales email on Pond5? That'll save me a bit of time checking every day!

« Reply #76 on: February 19, 2016, 04:25 »
0
Yes, they send a sales notification email for every sale.

SpaceStockFootage

  • Space, Sci-Fi and Astronomy Related Stock Footage

« Reply #77 on: February 19, 2016, 06:14 »
0
Yes, they send a sales notification email for every sale.

Good stuff, thanks!

« Reply #78 on: February 19, 2016, 08:03 »
0
Averages for the last three months or so...

Artbeats Express: $30 - 20 clips
SS: $50 - 20 clips
iS: $20 - 20 clips
ME: $15 - 20 clips
P5: $125 - 175 clips
VideoHive Non-Exclusive: $250 - 40 clips
VideoHive Exclusive: $850 - 267 clips

Just had a bunch of clips approved on VB so hoping I might get some action there. The majority of my stuff is motion graphics though, rather than footage, just so you know.

VB completely dead for me. Not a sale in 3 months going on 4 with about 1,000 videos.

Yeah, seems like it might not be the promised land that some are making it out to be. I've uploaded my core bunch of clips and we'll see how it goes. Quick question... do you get any kind of notification when you sell a clip, like the daily sales email on Pond5? That'll save me a bit of time checking every day!

Yes, they send you an email.  You have some nice space clips. Well done.

SpaceStockFootage

  • Space, Sci-Fi and Astronomy Related Stock Footage

« Reply #79 on: February 20, 2016, 17:10 »
0
Thanks very much! Love me a bit of space action!


 

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