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Author Topic: Dissolve debacle. So far, my clips are at $79. Anybody got slushed to $49?  (Read 60873 times)

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« Reply #125 on: November 06, 2015, 08:08 »
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I got my account approved on Dissolve, but never got around to uploading.  Glad I didn't.  I just feel like they're slimy for doing things the way they did.

And now that I've got most of my portfolio on VideoBlocks, I'm enjoying steady sales there.

Most of my microstock friends have told me they will no longer upload new content to Dissolve, though most are making enough sales to not deactivate their portfolios.

It's the same with iStock, most people I know stopped uploading new content and when sales eventually dried up, they removed their portfolios.  Dissolve will likely suffer the same fate as most producers will stop submitting new content and eventually they'll pull their existing content leaving Dissolve an empty hulk.



Stock agency that doesn't respect contributors will fade out sooner than later.  That's just how it is.


« Reply #126 on: November 06, 2015, 08:11 »
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Sales at Dissolve are actually pretty good for me, and increasing (since the price drop I make more),

This is my biggest complaint about the move to equalize at the lowest price. Those who haven't uploaded to VB lose out to similar lower priced clips.

My sales are increasing everywhere but P5, so if I had a choice in this I'd rather have kept my prices at $79. SS seems to be doing great at that pricepoint.

« Reply #127 on: November 06, 2015, 08:11 »
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I was wondering if there was any clarity on the pricing at dissolve. Now that I've lost an agency (Revostock) I was hoping to fill the gap with another but I am still confused about the pricing at Dissolve as I've done a quick search and can see clips for sale at $49 and $79.

Who exactly is pricing these clips, is it the contributor or do the staff evaluate the clip and price it accordingly?

Also, has anyone seen any increase in sales this year at Dissolve?

Thanks.


Avoid Dissolve like a plague.  Just try VideoBlocks and you probably will be happy.


I would say that if you are on vb then avoid dissolve. You are simply competing against yourself for lower royalties.  Way lower royalties. Thats why i closed my account. If you are not on vb and are on higher paying agencies or pricing your content higher on p5 then you "might" consider them if 30% is okay with you.

« Reply #128 on: November 06, 2015, 08:33 »
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Like said above, getting 100%!of $49 is bad because it tells the buyer that's the market price for video.  And it shouldn't be.

« Reply #129 on: November 06, 2015, 08:36 »
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VB at $49 is better than the slew of $10 clips on P5


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« Reply #130 on: November 06, 2015, 12:10 »
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VB at $49 is better than the slew of $10 clips on P5


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Luckily I don't sell for $10 on P5.

« Reply #131 on: November 06, 2015, 16:16 »
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I was wondering if there was any clarity on the pricing at dissolve. Now that I've lost an agency (Revostock) I was hoping to fill the gap with another but I am still confused about the pricing at Dissolve as I've done a quick search and can see clips for sale at $49 and $79.

Who exactly is pricing these clips, is it the contributor or do the staff evaluate the clip and price it accordingly?

Also, has anyone seen any increase in sales this year at Dissolve?

Thanks.


Avoid Dissolve like a plague.  Just try VideoBlocks and you probably will be happy.


I would say that if you are on vb then avoid dissolve. You are simply competing against yourself for lower royalties.  Way lower royalties. Thats why i closed my account. If you are not on vb and are on higher paying agencies or pricing your content higher on p5 then you "might" consider them if 30% is okay with you.

Thanks for your input. Yes 30% does sound low especially if it is of $49. I'm not with VB either and was seriously considering it, but there's something that says $49 per video and 100% royalties doesn't seem right. $49 because it seems a bit low considering the market and I don't like to encourage this price point to customers especially if your content is high quality. Although $49 is OK for smaller agencies that don't represent any threat or dominance to the market.

And 100% contributor royalties seems too high, I know that sounds crazy where a contributor questions a 100% royalty but I would actually feel better if the royalties were something like 80% for contributor and 20% for agency even if it was just to cover admin costs, keep servers running etc. I like to think of when joining an agency both parties mutually benefit in some way in terms of royalties, but that's just me. Now If I could price my clips at say $59 and keep 80% VB would become my new favorite agency :)

btw. I'm not questioning any other contributors reasons for joining a particular agency as we all have our different lives and circumstances. But I'm just not completely sold on VB which then leaves Dissolve to fill the gap, and I originally asked about Dissolve because the lowest my clips sell for $60 on P5 which I feel is reasonable for the quality and length.

Good luck.


« Reply #132 on: November 07, 2015, 19:26 »
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I was wondering if there was any clarity on the pricing at dissolve. Now that I've lost an agency (Revostock) I was hoping to fill the gap with another but I am still confused about the pricing at Dissolve as I've done a quick search and can see clips for sale at $49 and $79.

Who exactly is pricing these clips, is it the contributor or do the staff evaluate the clip and price it accordingly?

Also, has anyone seen any increase in sales this year at Dissolve?

Thanks.


Avoid Dissolve like a plague.  Just try VideoBlocks and you probably will be happy.


I would say that if you are on vb then avoid dissolve. You are simply competing against yourself for lower royalties.  Way lower royalties. Thats why i closed my account. If you are not on vb and are on higher paying agencies or pricing your content higher on p5 then you "might" consider them if 30% is okay with you.

Thanks for your input. Yes 30% does sound low especially if it is of $49. I'm not with VB either and was seriously considering it, but there's something that says $49 per video and 100% royalties doesn't seem right. $49 because it seems a bit low considering the market and I don't like to encourage this price point to customers especially if your content is high quality. Although $49 is OK for smaller agencies that don't represent any threat or dominance to the market.

And 100% contributor royalties seems too high, I know that sounds crazy where a contributor questions a 100% royalty but I would actually feel better if the royalties were something like 80% for contributor and 20% for agency even if it was just to cover admin costs, keep servers running etc. I like to think of when joining an agency both parties mutually benefit in some way in terms of royalties, but that's just me. Now If I could price my clips at say $59 and keep 80% VB would become my new favorite agency :)

btw. I'm not questioning any other contributors reasons for joining a particular agency as we all have our different lives and circumstances. But I'm just not completely sold on VB which then leaves Dissolve to fill the gap, and I originally asked about Dissolve because the lowest my clips sell for $60 on P5 which I feel is reasonable for the quality and length.

Good luck.

So for me, the logic I used to decide on VB was mainly driven by a few things and it wasn't the 100% in terms of how I weighted them. I do believe that t's inevitable that they will claw back on commissions to the 30% range, 70% for us. But I mainly chose to upload there to get in front of what I already know is coming, which is a lowering of HD as 4K emerges as the new HD.

My thinking around why I uploaded to VB was:

1. The lowering of 4k to $199 from $299. I can infer from this that it will trickle down further to erode $79 HD, and soon, maybe within 6-12 months (my opinion only)

2. All the 4K TV's I am seeing mean there will be consumer demand for 4K that will eventually create higher demand and, therefore, price wars that will have a bullwhip effect on HD
 
3. IStock's video pricing behavior (same price/commission for 4K as HD). Again this is a strong indicator of where the industry is going so I tried to look 12-18 months out and made my decision to join VB for these main reasons.

Dissolve, however, does not pay very well in comparison and I believe that by supporting them I am hurting me by giving buyers the option to shop there. So I pulled my port.


« Reply #133 on: November 07, 2015, 20:52 »
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Excellent points mantis


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« Reply #134 on: November 09, 2015, 19:44 »
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So far it looks like (someone correct me if im wrong) they've priced clips at 49 for those who continued uploading AFTER the announcement.So they didn't go back to change prices from 79 to 49 to those who uploaded all these clips to vb.
And for good reason,a lot people would pull ports and general mayhem would occur.

But the way has anyone seen the new contributor's dashboard that they promised month ago (twice) where all magic things can happen?
Guess not.
That's the extend of things we can expect from them.
So until sales dry out then....

« Reply #135 on: November 09, 2015, 20:11 »
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So far it looks like (someone correct me if im wrong) they've priced clips at 49 for those who continued uploading AFTER the announcement.So they didn't go back to change prices from 79 to 49 to those who uploaded all these clips to vb.
And for good reason,a lot people would pull ports and general mayhem would occur.

But the way has anyone seen the new contributor's dashboard that they promised month ago (twice) where all magic things can happen?
Guess not.
That's the extend of things we can expect from them.
So until sales dry out then....

That's inaccurate. They repriced all of my clips to $49 without me doing a thing but get pissed off.

« Reply #136 on: November 09, 2015, 20:15 »
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So far it looks like (someone correct me if im wrong) they've priced clips at 49 for those who continued uploading AFTER the announcement.So they didn't go back to change prices from 79 to 49 to those who uploaded all these clips to vb.
And for good reason,a lot people would pull ports and general mayhem would occur.

But the way has anyone seen the new contributor's dashboard that they promised month ago (twice) where all magic things can happen?
Guess not.
That's the extend of things we can expect from them.
So until sales dry out then....

That's inaccurate. They repriced all of my clips to $49 without me doing a thing but get pissed off.

So long for my theory then.

« Reply #137 on: November 23, 2015, 11:18 »
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Since they lowered the price on all my clips I stopped uploading.  I figured I would wait and see what the impact would be, Dissolve has less than 25% of my portfolio so I wasn't too worried.

So far sales have really dried up there, pretty dramatically actually.  Everywhere else things are steady or improving.  I wanted to ask for others people's experience. 

Perhaps they are on the decline as an agency? 


« Reply #138 on: November 23, 2015, 11:54 »
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Since they lowered the price on all my clips I stopped uploading.  I figured I would wait and see what the impact would be, Dissolve has less than 25% of my portfolio so I wasn't too worried.

So far sales have really dried up there, pretty dramatically actually.  Everywhere else things are steady or improving.  I wanted to ask for others people's experience. 

Perhaps they are on the decline as an agency?

I see growth,for better or worse.
Same port since June.
Very mixed reports out there so i dont know what to make out of it.

« Reply #139 on: November 23, 2015, 12:54 »
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I'm not uploading anything new either but my clips are still at $79. I would say they are down some from the early days. They may just have many more clips to offer without much increase in customer base.
What I'd like to know is if they think that their strategic move of lowering similarly priced clips to $49 is working out well for them.

« Reply #140 on: November 23, 2015, 13:20 »
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Why ask this though?I would think it does.For them.
Question is does it for contributors?Some say it does others say it's less income because growth of sales can't weight out the massive drop in commission.

To add,i think their biggest fail was that they considered vb as a place that would antagonize them.As it seems vb is notr antagonizing anyone else,nor can it.It makes sales but it's not stable as an agency.
My opinion of them hasn't changed,and now i think i can finally see how their model works.It's not stable it seems to work for us only when massive subscription occur,even if you consider all the massive ups and downs of the other agencies.
« Last Edit: November 23, 2015, 13:28 by gcrook »

« Reply #141 on: November 23, 2015, 13:37 »
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It's a small sample size, but I was selling more at Dissolve at $80 than $49.  Looks to me like they pissed off contributors AND are making less $. 

« Reply #142 on: November 23, 2015, 15:10 »
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It's a small sample size, but I was selling more at Dissolve at $80 than $49.  Looks to me like they pissed off contributors AND are making less $.
Not like I want anyone to lose an income stream but they would have been better off just cancelling contracts than reducing prices for some.


 

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