Author Topic: Sales Numbers Different Agencies 2013 (Read 6838 times)

Seti · « **on:** April 04, 2013, 07:54 »

Because it seems of great interrest here how diffrerent footage agencies are going, here my income spread for first 3 month 2013. I just sell CGI footage. But on some I have some pics too. Clipcanvas was 0% in whole 2012, 123rf I just startet with footage and don't have much up there.

Istock     7,59%
Shutter    36,35%
Pond5   25,96%
MotionElements   7,75%
Clipdealer    0,00%
Editable Clips   2,09%
Revostock   3,95%
123RF   0,93%
Canstock   3,02%
ClipCanvas   3,36%
Fotolia   5,68%

modviz · « **Reply #1 on:** April 04, 2013, 08:44 »

Thanks, Seti.....and how many clips do you have with Pond5? Shutterstock? And what is the price range you've set for Pond5? Thanks in advance.

Seti · « **Reply #2 on:** April 04, 2013, 10:03 »

About 150 CGI clips each. At P5 price range is from $20 (old or/and lower quality (SD)) to $60.- (new or/and excellent quality).

Overall revenue (all agencies) per clip / month is about 2-3$. 2008-2010 it was about 5-6$. Since then it drops and drops and ...

But be aware, I'm talking about 3D CGI, which usually sells better than cam clips, on the other hand needs much more effort to produce.

modviz · « **Reply #3 on:** April 04, 2013, 11:29 »

Thanks, Seti. I'm really finding Pond5 to be a microstock mystery.....I sell clips so obviously attracting a different crowd from CGI but in the end we're both faced with the same problem. How low do we set our portfolio to ensure:

1. They sell
2. They sell well.

I've planted 20 clips with P5 in November. These are clips that have sold with other agencies....and no sales. Is it the price I set? The quality of the clip?

Many people have proclaimed their undieing love for P5 and the success they found working with the agency, only to find out that their prices are set so low, it would take 10 sales to earn the equivalent of 1 SS sale.

I'm not sure that that would be a satisfactory pay-off for the amount of work I put into it (and only scraping the time and effort for CGI projects).

stephenkirsh · « **Reply #4 on:** April 07, 2013, 12:52 »

I sell camera footage (which is low quality, per my peers) on P5, iStock & SS. Pond 5 makes up at least 50% of my video sales.

Total income from all 3 since 2009 (which includes stills) is roughly split about 33% at each. Overall income is down from my peak in 2010, but I also haven't created new content since that year.

To me, Pond5 is so simple for uploading, that it should be on anybody's upload list for when they get spare time. Most of my files are priced at $15-20 for 720 since my content isn't of that good quality. My better files are priced $35-$50.

modviz · « **Reply #5 on:** April 07, 2013, 19:15 »

Quote from: stephenkirsh on April 07, 2013, 12:52

To me, Pond5 is so simple for uploading, that it should be on anybody's upload list for when they get spare time. Most of my files are priced at $15-20 for 720 since my content isn't of that good quality. My better files are priced $35-$50.

"Better files". Better resolution? Better composition? Better subject? What do you define as "better files"?

And how do you know $35-$50 is an ideal price range for best sales? Overall income is split between three agencies? Have you tried tweaking P5 up to see if you can generate more income?

My pet peeve with P5 is that they give you nothing to analyse your pricing other than sales. Apparently their "view" stat is never updated. If anything, P5 should provide far more analytical tools because you're setting your own pricing. It's all guess work right now. That's why I don't bother with them.

stephenkirsh · « **Reply #6 on:** April 07, 2013, 23:48 »

Modviz;

My definition of "better" for my own content is better composition/subject. All of my content is 720p.

Most of my files started at $20/clip and I increased prices on content that had higher sales (at Pond5 & SS/iStock). Is it optimum? I'm not sure yet. I've only been getting serious for a few months now.

As a highly analytical person, I feel ALL agencies could greatly improve their analytics. As a sales person at my company (an RM agency), I've discovered a great deal by applying some basic analytical views to our giant database of info.

motionguy · « **Reply #7 on:** May 09, 2013, 07:17 »

@tsfc: What do you mean by very high payout rate? All I can read is something about winning cash prices if you upload the most videos but nothing on single sales. Seems not attractive for proffesionals who depend on money from stock footage.

morning.light · « **Reply #8 on:** May 18, 2013, 06:54 »

I have around 150 clips on Fotolia, Shutterstock and Pond5. NEVER had a sale on Shutterstock and Pond5, which is driving me crazy, considering I started all this almost an year ago. I do sell clips every month on Fotolia though, so someone needs my clips in the end. I really don't understand. If I sell 1-2 clips on Fotolia every month, I was expecting to have at least one sale on SS&Pond5 in an year, but still nothing...

gemmy12 · « **Reply #9 on:** May 18, 2013, 09:04 »

Quote from: morning.light on May 18, 2013, 06:54

I have around 150 clips on Fotolia, Shutterstock and Pond5. NEVER had a sale on Shutterstock and Pond5, which is driving me crazy, considering I started all this almost an year ago. I do sell clips every month on Fotolia though, so someone needs my clips in the end. I really don't understand. If I sell 1-2 clips on Fotolia every month, I was expecting to have at least one sale on SS&Pond5 in an year, but still nothing...

Its strange if you have not sold anything from ss and p5 from 150 footage.. that too for last 1 year.. Did you try changing your keywords ?

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