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« on: May 14, 2014, 23:15 »
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Greetings to the Community at MSG Forums,

We have just recently updated our online marketplace and would love to reach out to the MSG community.

MotionElements (ME) is an online marketplace for Asia inspired royalty free stock animation, video footage, After Effects and Apple Motion templates.

http://www.motionelements.com

As part of our continuous efforts to grow content and improve the site we would like to open this space as an avenue and catalyst to get in touch with MSG members who are interested to sell their content through MotionElements.

Where is ME from & what is its focus?
We are based in Singapore, a small yet bustling hub of many cultures in Asia. Due in large part to this, our primary focus is on becoming the largest provider of Asia Inspired content.

What do you mean by Asia Inspired?
Firstly and most obviously, these are content set in Asia.
i.e. Time lapse of the Singapore skyline, people walking by the Great Wall of China, people relaxing on the beaches of Phuket Thailand, etc.

Secondly, these can be Asia related concepts & subjects (people, culture, practices, symbols, events), that may or may not be set in Asia.
i.e. An Asian businesswoman in the office, dragon dancing in China Town, New York, a Russian trying out a Japanese Kimono.

What about my non-Asia Inspired content?
Those are very much welcome at our marketplace too, as our audiences are also very much interested on global content (more on this later).

Who are MEs Audiences and how do you address them?
Majority of our audiences are from Asia as ME is based here, but we have a growing market in the Americas and Europe as well.

Besides English, the site is available in Japanese, Chinese, & Korean with more to be added in the future. The site also supports Deutsche.

What kind of content are you looking for?
Due to the prevalence of stock image sites, both large and small, we would like to keep our media types limited to those with motion:
1.   Animation & Video Backgrounds
2.   Video Footage
3.   After Effects templates
4.   Apple Motion templates

We are looking for Asia Inspired content in line with our focus, but non-Asia content have also been proven to sell well  to our audiences.

Whats in it for us Contributors?
 - Pricing is fully determined by you. If you feel that your footage is going to sell for $250, we have no reason to stop you from pricing it so. We'd like for our Artists to keep their pricing strategy in tact.
 - Commissions will always be at least 50% from the sale of your content. No hidden fees and additional charges.
 - When we initiate promotions it always cuts on our share, never on yours.
 - Payment is consistently made on the 15th of the following month when you make a sale.
 - Your English metadata is searchable with queries made in our supported localized languages. No need to translate.
i.e. searching cherry blossom, sakura, 桜の花 (Japanese), 벚꽃 (Korean), 櫻花 (Chinese) will yield similar results
 - You have the freedom to upload your work to us in various convenient ways, including Picworkflow (at no charge).
 - Last but not the least, we will do our best to market your content to audiences in Asia and the rest of the world. We do our marketing and support in as many relevant Asia languages as necessary to attract more sales to your content.

We Hope to Work with MSG Contributors
To those interested and would like to sign up, please do so here:

https://www.motionelements.com/signup/artist
« Last Edit: May 16, 2014, 01:07 by john »



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« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2014, 02:16 »
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That's a perfect introduction from an agency representative to this forum thank you, didn't see one from Mat though....

« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2014, 03:12 »
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The site redesign looks great. I hope this new push will help a lot more sales come :)

« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2014, 16:02 »
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Do you have any traffic yet? I am looking for another video outlet that pays a fair trade commission like you folks.

I uploaded some test files and after the files finish uploading the system just trials forever "processing files".


Edit: 4 hours later and they are "still processing"
« Last Edit: May 15, 2014, 20:46 by Mantis »

« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2014, 23:15 »
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Do you have any traffic yet? I am looking for another video outlet that pays a fair trade commission like you folks.

I uploaded some test files and after the files finish uploading the system just trials forever "processing files".


Edit: 4 hours later and they are "still processing"

Hi Mantis. It's great to have you on board. Glad to know that you appreciate our commission rates, we believe that anything lower than this is not doing our contributors justice. Sure enough this was echoed by most of the community in the Microstock Expo. On terms of traffic, we have a steady stream of visitors from Asia, US and some parts of Europe.

Regarding the preview generation, unfortunately, at the time of posting, we are receiving an extremely high amount of upload traffic. :-\ Rest assured that once this eases up, preview generation takes a lot less time.

« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2014, 00:30 »
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Welcome to the forum John.

« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2014, 02:33 »
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Hi John,

thank you for introducing yourself and motionelements. I will certainly try your site but I'll wait a bit for things to normalize.

I've stopped uploading to smaller sites and have only been focussing on pond5 and shutterstock. But I am willing to give it a go and see if you can generate sales.

Welcome to msg!


« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2014, 05:15 »
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thank you for introducing yourself and motionelements. I will certainly try your site but I'll wait a bit for things to normalize.

I've stopped uploading to smaller sites and have only been focussing on pond5 and shutterstock. But I am willing to give it a go and see if you can generate sales.

Welcome to msg!

Thanks cobalt. Good to know that you are willing to try us out. Once things normalize for you and you decide to get on board, drop me a PM and I'll assist you if necessary.

It's great to have a warm welcome from the MSG community. We certainly hope that we can help bolster the footage part of the community in MSG.

We'd definitely hope that motion (footage, animation, video templates) will constitute a larger part of people's microstock income.

ogm

« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2014, 06:50 »
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Hi john,
Thank you for the presentation! Here I need a little bit more explanation because it is not clear enough for me!
You say:
- Commissions will always be at least 50% from the sale of your content. No hidden fees and additional charges.

and in the "Artist Supplier Agreement" :

4. ...MotionElements shall pay to Supplier an amount equal to fifty percent (50%) multiplied times the gross revenues . ...
gross revenues means payments less any administrative fees, charge backs, refunds, discounts or other credits issued by MotionElements, for sales of Supplier Content ...


What do you mean? Is this means that "at least" is not at least?
« Last Edit: May 17, 2014, 01:40 by ogm »

« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2014, 07:27 »
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I've had you guys bookmarked for a long time because I like your commissions. You're still around, which is a good sign! And it seems that you're growing, so I'll upload a test batch and see what happens.

« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2014, 07:29 »
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Do you have any traffic yet? I am looking for another video outlet that pays a fair trade commission like you folks.

I uploaded some test files and after the files finish uploading the system just trials forever "processing files".


Edit: 4 hours later and they are "still processing"

Hi Mantis. It's great to have you on board. Glad to know that you appreciate our commission rates, we believe that anything lower than this is not doing our contributors justice. Sure enough this was echoed by most of the community in the Microstock Expo. On terms of traffic, we have a steady stream of visitors from Asia, US and some parts of Europe.

Regarding the preview generation, unfortunately, at the time of posting, we are receiving an extremely high amount of upload traffic. :-\ Rest assured that once this eases up, preview generation takes a lot less time.

Hi John,

Thanks for the feedback.  What about key wording? There are 17 categories to place keywords.  Say I have a simple beach wave scene.  It has a lot of characteristics that would fit into multiple keyword buckets.  Am I supposed to split my keywords up into the appropriate buckets? If so that is an awful lot of work and it will prevent a lot of people from uploading due to the massive amount of work.  Conversely, if I dump all my keywords into only one bucket do I lose search placement my not separating them into the appropriate keyword categories?

« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2014, 08:20 »
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Hi John,

in the light of recent experiences in the wider stock industry, I also have a question: do you distribute your content to other partneragencies or "resellers"? If you do, is there a clear opt out button for the artists?

This is one thing I am paying more attention to. I prefer to sell my files from the designated agency only. If I want more "partners" I will look for them myself.

So before I upload to motionelemets I would like to be sure that my files will be sold from only your site.

« Reply #13 on: May 16, 2014, 09:02 »
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Hi John,


So before I upload to motionelemets I would like to be sure that my files will be sold from only your site.

I would like to know this too.

« Reply #14 on: May 19, 2014, 20:38 »
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Hi John,

in the light of recent experiences in the wider stock industry, I also have a question: do you distribute your content to other partneragencies or "resellers"? If you do, is there a clear opt out button for the artists?

This is one thing I am paying more attention to. I prefer to sell my files from the designated agency only. If I want more "partners" I will look for them myself.

So before I upload to motionelemets I would like to be sure that my files will be sold from only your site.

To Zeus & Cobalt,

This is an interesting point, and one that I've seen brought up in quite a lot of threads here in MSG. Without beating around the bush, I will say that our contracts does allow this, and it leaves the door open for such partnerships with other agencies.

That being said, I'm glad to say that we do not sub-distribute/sub-license content to partner agencies at present and that we currently have no plans of doing so in the near future.

Should this ever happen, we will make it a point to inform our contributors and as requested by others in the forum, will give contributors the option to opt out.

« Reply #15 on: May 20, 2014, 16:26 »
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Hi John,

in the light of recent experiences in the wider stock industry, I also have a question: do you distribute your content to other partneragencies or "resellers"? If you do, is there a clear opt out button for the artists?
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This is one thing I am paying more attention to. I prefer to sell my files from the designated agency only. If I want more "partners" I will look for them myself.

So before I upload to motionelemets I would like to be sure that my files will be sold from only your site.

To Zeus & Cobalt,

This is an interesting point, and one that I've seen brought up in quite a lot of threads here in MSG. Without beating around the bush, I will say that our contracts does allow this, and it leaves the door open for such partnerships with other agencies.

That being said, I'm glad to say that we do not sub-distribute/sub-license content to partner agencies at present and that we currently have no plans of doing so in the near future.

Should this ever happen, we will make it a point to inform our contributors and as requested by others in the forum, will give contributors the option to opt out.

That's good news I suppose, being able to opt out. Are you generating any customers yet?


« Reply #17 on: June 04, 2014, 07:21 »
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I uploaded several clips a few days ago. These clips are still on ftp directory, but there is nothing to tag/edit/manage on the site.

Harvepino

« Reply #18 on: June 04, 2014, 16:56 »
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Nice introduction.  :) A bit of fresh air after all the IS/DT/etc threads.

I joined some weeks ago and uploaded the few animations I have at the moment. I'm only just starting with videos, but shifting my focus towards it to achieve 50/50 income balance between pictures and videos in a year's time.

The whole upload/submit process went well. I have fingers crossed for you guys, the website looks nice, it'll be great if we start seeing some sales kicking in.

« Reply #19 on: June 08, 2014, 15:43 »
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Has anyone had any sales here yet?

« Reply #20 on: June 08, 2014, 23:13 »
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Has anyone had any sales here yet?

I've had a few sales there over the past year. Not enough to get me excited though.

« Reply #21 on: June 09, 2014, 07:28 »
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Has anyone had any sales here yet?

I've had a few sales there over the past year. Not enough to get me excited though.

How many clips if you don't mind me asking?

« Reply #22 on: June 09, 2014, 08:26 »
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Has anyone had any sales here yet?

I have had two sales of one video clip. Started in January, now about 100 files online.

« Reply #23 on: June 09, 2014, 08:37 »
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How many clips if you don't mind me asking?

5 clips sold from 470 online.

« Reply #24 on: June 09, 2014, 22:48 »
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Hello fellow Singaporeans!

Great to see more locals entering the stock scene, whatever the medium.

You guys are doing really great so far introducing yourselves on this forum -- makes me proud of my fellow countrymen. :D

I'm not a footage person (I only create illustrations/vectors), but if you ever expand into the vector market, please let me know. I'm exclusive with iStock for now, but I'm always looking out for other possible avenues if things should change in future.

Until then, good luck! I'd say it's a great sign that the people here at MSG are welcoming you.

« Reply #25 on: June 09, 2014, 22:59 »
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This thread makes me want to try my hands on video...

« Reply #26 on: June 14, 2014, 05:07 »
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10 sales, started from nov 2013,  67 clips online.

« Reply #27 on: June 14, 2014, 07:55 »
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10 sales, started from nov 2013,  67 clips online.

I am a little confused.  Do they approve clips or are all accepted? I have uploaded some test clips and they say they are online, but they say that immediately after I put in my keywords and submit.

« Reply #28 on: July 03, 2014, 22:57 »
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It's been a busy past month for us here, so our kindest apologies for not being able to respond sooner. Without further delay let me get back to some of your comments:

@Boguc
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I uploaded several clips a few days ago. These clips are still on ftp directory, but there is nothing to tag/edit/manage on the site.

Good to have you on board MotionElements! Your clips have been ready to be managed probably a few hours since you last checked. We apologise for it not being available immediately due to heavy upload traffic.

We hope that you could publish these soon.

@davidgoh
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Hello fellow Singaporeans!
Great to see more locals entering the stock scene, whatever the medium.
You guys are doing really great so far introducing yourselves on this forum -- makes me proud of my fellow countrymen. 
I'm not a footage person (I only create illustrations/vectors), but if you ever expand into the vector market, please let me know. I'm exclusive with iStock for now, but I'm always looking out for other possible avenues if things should change in future.
Until then, good luck! I'd say it's a great sign that the people here at MSG are welcoming you.

We appreciate the compliment and were glad that we make you proud. While we are not into vectors/illustrations due to our focus on video but we do think that there is a market for it in Asia, so we do hope that you do well in that respect.

@onepointfour
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This thread makes me want to try my hands on video...

When you do, give us a go, at the very least we promise to pay you fairly. :)

@Harvepino
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Nice introduction.   A bit of fresh air after all the IS/DT/etc threads.
I joined some weeks ago and uploaded the few animations I have at the moment. I'm only just starting with videos, but shifting my focus towards it to achieve 50/50 income balance between pictures and videos in a year's time.
The whole upload/submit process went well. I have fingers crossed for you guys, the website looks nice, it'll be great if we start seeing some sales kicking in.

Great to have you Harvepino! Thanks for feedback on the upload/submit process, its far from perfect but we are getting there so feel free to pm me any comments so we can improve this as we move on. The same applies to the rest of the MSG members who are already with us.

@Smithore, Ruchos & Harvepino

Sales is always of tantamount importance, and believe me it gives us great joy to give payouts to our Artists. We are humble enough to admit that we are not yet at a level where we can replicate some of your successes in other marketplaces for more contributors. There are those that are finding their groove in our marketplace and we certainly hope that this hold true for more contributors.

We are hard at work at selling the works that are with us to our markets. No matter what, rest assured that we will be paying you your fair share, which is always at least 50% of the price that you yourself specify.

That should wrap it up. We appreciate the feedback from MSG Forums, and we hope that we can keep the conversation going.

« Reply #29 on: August 04, 2014, 11:44 »
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I'll upload many Asian themed clips if you enable file format other than the jpeg stuff.  I usually have prores422.

« Reply #30 on: August 04, 2014, 11:48 »
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actually last week i redirected a poster  to you after i noticed his portfolio was asian-cultured.
not sure if he did come to you.

do i get a free tshirt?  even if i am not with you as i do not have asian culture port.

« Reply #31 on: August 07, 2014, 19:55 »
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Is something wrong with motion elements? None of the videos play for me on that site but videos play fine on P5 and Revostock. My adobe flash is enabled.

« Reply #32 on: August 13, 2014, 00:09 »
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Greetings to the MSG Community.

Just took the time to respond to feedback from the MSG Forums  ;)

I'll upload many Asian themed clips if you enable file format other than the jpeg stuff.  I usually have prores422.

We have support for prores422 so you are very much welcome to get on board MotionElements.

I do have to clarify however that we market to a worldwide audience but with increased focus on the Asian markets. What this means is that your non-Asian content would sit well together with the Asian ones. The Asian market is open to video clips that have non-Asian subjects.

actually last week i redirected a poster  to you after i noticed his portfolio was asian-cultured.
not sure if he did come to you.

do i get a free tshirt?  even if i am not with you as i do not have asian culture port.

This is incredible and your referral is much appreciated. As with the above point, MotionElements welcomes content from around the world, not just Asian-centric ones, so we'd be happy to have you come aboard as well etudiante_rapide.  ;D

Is something wrong with motion elements? None of the videos play for me on that site but videos play fine on P5 and Revostock. My adobe flash is enabled.

Mantis, I've checked the issue and it seems to be resolved. Should there be any issues down the line, we'd be very happy to address it ASAP so do drop me a MSG PM or better yet send the issue to my E-mail or to artists[at]motionelements.com. This way we can respond faster to any issues.

I must say that the MSG forums has and will always be a good place to get constructive feedback. We appreciate the support the community has shown. We are hard at work to make MotionElements better through your contributions.  :)

« Reply #33 on: August 15, 2014, 17:13 »
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Greetings to the MSG Community.

Just took the time to respond to feedback from the MSG Forums  ;)

This is incredible and your referral is much appreciated. As with the above point, MotionElements welcomes content from around the world, not just Asian-centric ones, so we'd be happy to have you come aboard as well etudiante_rapide.  ;D

I must say that the MSG forums has and will always be a good place to get constructive feedback. We appreciate the support the community has shown. We are hard at work to make MotionElements better through your contributions.  :)

john, thx 4 the invite. but for 2014-5 i m concentrating on editorials and photog, and ME is focusing (no pun intended) on vid.  but it's my pleasure 2 have re-directed someone here 2 u.
i m just returning the favour many gave me when i was new 2 the business.

and yes, Tyler's MSG is a good meeting place 4 solidarity, where some of us can get 2gether,
(alas it is not the local pub, which would have been better ... 4 me  8) )
...


« Reply #35 on: August 27, 2014, 09:39 »
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ut it's my pleasure 2 have re-directed someone here 2 u.
i m just returning the favour many gave me when i was new 2 the business.

This is much appreciated etudiante_rapide! It is a community after all so it's great to share when you care.

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john, thx 4 the invite. but for 2014-5 i m concentrating on editorials and photog, and ME is focusing (no pun intended) on vid.

We certainly hope that when you shift your focus to stock video please do consider our marketplace as one of your agencies to partner with.  ;)


Hi john,

I am also faithfully uploading to ME....new site that pays fairly. Without divulging any numbers (unless you want to) what does the growth of your buyer base look like since launch? I know your focus is on the Asian market but to you anticipate expanding your reach?


« Reply #36 on: September 03, 2014, 22:01 »
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Hi john,

I am also faithfully uploading to ME....new site that pays fairly. Without divulging any numbers (unless you want to) what does the growth of your buyer base look like since launch? I know your focus is on the Asian market but to you anticipate expanding your reach?

Hi Mantis. We really appreciate you having with us. Buyer growth has been great thus far, traffic and number of transactions have definitely increased. I hope you understand that we can't really delve into specifics at this point, but the outlook is very positive.

« Reply #37 on: September 16, 2014, 19:10 »
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Just a caution, there is a fee when your payment is sent to Paypal.  I had a $20 commission and paid $1.82 in Paypal fees. Why is there a fee?

« Reply #38 on: September 17, 2014, 05:12 »
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Just a caution, there is a fee when your payment is sent to Paypal.  I had a $20 commission and paid $1.82 in Paypal fees. Why is there a fee?

Hi Mantis,

We ultimately pay out precisely 50% of the Sale Price of sold content whenever non-exclusive content is sold. Any other administrative fees from external parties such as PayPal are beyond our control. What I can give out however is PayPal's page for charging fees for transactions below:

https://www.paypal.com/us/webapps/mpp/paypal-fees

As stated, there are various factors that affect their fees, from location, account type (they charge business PayPal accounts more), to even involving currency exchange when applicable.

As our records do not show how much PayPal has charged you, should you wish to discuss the details of the transaction, you can drop me a PM and discuss the issue directly, as PayPal may be mistakenly charging you the wrong fees from our payouts.

I hope this helps and talk to you soon.

« Reply #39 on: September 17, 2014, 05:20 »
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I've never paid a fee for any Paypal payout from an MS site.  The site always picks up the bill.

Valo

« Reply #40 on: September 17, 2014, 05:42 »
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Sending a mass payment in PayPal to pay contributors only cost like 6 dollar for the sender. I never paid a fee for receiving a pay out either. If you cant absorb 6 dollar you need to find another business to run.

« Reply #41 on: September 17, 2014, 08:12 »
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This is the first time I have ever had a fee.

« Reply #42 on: November 18, 2014, 22:27 »
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Confirm there was also a 1.75usd paypal fee for the one and only clip i sold at ME after 3 months with full port (+-300 clips) and relative high prices set (SS level prices more or less).
Of course low to non-existent sales is propably to be expected,and i wouldn't bother at all to upload if ME were to have fixed prices and low commissions,so i will just  leave my port there for the time being.
Lots of views btw but it doesnt seem to mean much.

I am bringing up this thread to address some issues i find rather disturbing.
First of all there seems to be no kind of curation at all,and if there is any, there is no way to know if content was curated and if changes were made,although i don't think this is the case.
Second of all categorization is just absurd,but i don't know if that indexing has any meaning to search results so i just mention it as an aesthetic issue to me.

What i really dont like is that there is a character cap in the description.Some files just need more words to be described,and some words get cut.
Again no indication,you submit and then check your clip's name to see how many characters above limit you are.

And the latest thing where when you set your price the "free" box gets automatically ticked and you need to untick it (if you notice it before clicking the publish button) is just plain sleazy.

« Reply #43 on: November 19, 2014, 02:23 »
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Confirm there was also a 1.75usd paypal fee for the one and only clip i sold at ME after 3 months with full port (+-300 clips) and relative high prices set (SS level prices more or less).
Of course low to non-existent sales is propably to be expected,and i wouldn't bother at all to upload if ME were to have fixed prices and low commissions,so i will just  leave my port there for the time being.
Lots of views btw but it doesnt seem to mean much.

I am bringing up this thread to address some issues i find rather disturbing.
First of all there seems to be no kind of curation at all,and if there is any, there is no way to know if content was curated and if changes were made,although i don't think this is the case.
Second of all categorization is just absurd,but i don't know if that indexing has any meaning to search results so i just mention it as an aesthetic issue to me.

What i really dont like is that there is a character cap in the description.Some files just need more words to be described,and some words get cut.
Again no indication,you submit and then check your clip's name to see how many characters above limit you are.

And the latest thing where when you set your price the "free" box gets automatically ticked and you need to untick it (if you notice it before clicking the publish button) is just plain sleazy.

I have 200 clips + and no sales after 6 months. Not worth uploading more until sales appear. The same clips sell well elsewhere. I also notice some of the most popular search terms on this website include things like "free download", " free footage" etc. Not confident at this stage but I'll wait and see if anything happens.

« Reply #44 on: November 19, 2014, 07:28 »
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Confirm there was also a 1.75usd paypal fee for the one and only clip i sold at ME after 3 months with full port (+-300 clips) and relative high prices set (SS level prices more or less).
Of course low to non-existent sales is propably to be expected,and i wouldn't bother at all to upload if ME were to have fixed prices and low commissions,so i will just  leave my port there for the time being.
Lots of views btw but it doesnt seem to mean much.

I am bringing up this thread to address some issues i find rather disturbing.
First of all there seems to be no kind of curation at all,and if there is any, there is no way to know if content was curated and if changes were made,although i don't think this is the case.
Second of all categorization is just absurd,but i don't know if that indexing has any meaning to search results so i just mention it as an aesthetic issue to me.

What i really dont like is that there is a character cap in the description.Some files just need more words to be described,and some words get cut.
Again no indication,you submit and then check your clip's name to see how many characters above limit you are.

And the latest thing where when you set your price the "free" box gets automatically ticked and you need to untick it (if you notice it before clicking the publish button) is just plain sleazy.

I have 200 clips + and no sales after 6 months. Not worth uploading more until sales appear. The same clips sell well elsewhere. I also notice some of the most popular search terms on this website include things like "free download", " free footage" etc. Not confident at this stage but I'll wait and see if anything happens.

I have also stopped uploading there along with Revostock.  Neither is producing any income.

« Reply #45 on: November 19, 2014, 11:04 »
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I checked my paypal balance again and found something rather interesting that i had overlooked.
Next to my payment from ME there is an ISSUE REFUND button,something i have never seen in any payment i have received from anywhere,let alone from stock.
That practically makes me the seller,and paypal fees are charged upon me.
That's not paypal's fault,it seems that it's propably the dealing ME did with paypal,somehow declaring me as the seller and them the buyer.

I have never sold through paypal so it would be nice if someone with seller experience can clarify if my hypothesis is correct.
And if that's true are there any legal implications?
No curation and me being the seller could for example mean that ME doesnt take blame if i accidentally sell editorial as commercial and someone decides to sue?

Expect official confirmation on this.


« Reply #46 on: November 19, 2014, 14:23 »
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I checked my paypal balance again and found something rather interesting that i had overlooked.
Next to my payment from ME there is an ISSUE REFUND button,something i have never seen in any payment i have received from anywhere,let alone from stock.
That practically makes me the seller,and paypal fees are charged upon me.
That's not paypal's fault,it seems that it's propably the dealing ME did with paypal,somehow declaring me as the seller and them the buyer.

I have never sold through paypal so it would be nice if someone with seller experience can clarify if my hypothesis is correct.
And if that's true are there any legal implications?
No curation and me being the seller could for example mean that ME doesnt take blame if i accidentally sell editorial as commercial and someone decides to sue?

Expect official confirmation on this.

Well, the one sale I did have on ME they charged me for the transaction. They tried to say it was Paypal but it's ME and something they did.

« Reply #47 on: November 23, 2014, 07:17 »
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I have a few sales each month at Motion Elements. Uploading is easy so for me it's worth it.
I do think that the Paypal costs are very high, around 5%. All other stock agencies charge nothing!

« Reply #48 on: December 09, 2014, 03:40 »
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Hi Everyone!

Apologies for the late reply to some of the questions on this thread. We have recently finished our show at the Japan Inter BEE 2014 where we received a lot of requests and excitement for the work on MotionElements. We're also working on more outreach to buyers so listen out for us!

For now, I hope to answer a few understandable concerns some of you have had on our site.

Paypal Transaction Fees
We understand the concern regarding these fees. We talked to PayPal to verify where these fees are coming from.

When buyers purchase your elements from us, we immediately give you 50%. For example, if you price your element at $50, we immediately set aside $25 to be paid to you, no fees deducted. Any transactional fees from this purchase will be deducted from our side. We pay all artists the following month as well, with no minimum amount required for payout.

The amount which is deducted when you receive is a Paypal 'Commercial Transaction Fee'. It is a standard service fee for receiving any payment through a Paypal account and is reflected as a 'Transaction Fee'. This fee goes to Paypal directly and we do not see or receive any of this amount.

For Paypal in certain regions, however, they can have 'Personal Payments' between domestic transactions. For Personal Payment transactions, PayPal does not charge a fee. Perhaps that is why some of you don't see any fees from other marketplaces.

On that note, do let us know if you have a personal preference for another payment method and we'll be glad to look into it. We are constantly on the lookout on new tech and systems which can help improve your experience on ME.


Paypal Refund Button
The refund is a standard for PayPal Commercial Transactions. It will be there for 60 days from the date of transaction. The refund is to MotionElements and not to the buyer of the element. (Don't click it!) Our Contributor and Membership Agreements and Artist protection are still in place. (For our Contributor Agreement, you can read more here -
http://www.motionelements.com/legal/contributor)

If you require more info on PayPal fees, please refer to their website Fees page: https://www.paypal.com/al/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_display-fees-outside
There is a link to their Fees Policy page as well if you require a (very) detailed breakdown of how PayPal charges for transactions.


'Free' Check box for elements
Thank you very much @gcrook for pointing this out to us! This issue has been fixed and we apologise for the bug. As a precaution, please check that your elements are not ticked 'Free' if you didn't intend it to be!


Element Description Field Word Cap
@gcrook We've looked into this issue but there didn't seem to be a word cap. Please do let me know if this problem persists on your end and PM me so I can look into it for you asap.


There are also more upgrades and security features coming up to make MotionElements a more conducive marketplace for all. Please keep a lookout for them!

We are very committed to making MotionElements a great place for all artists to buy, find and sell their elements. Please do let us know if you guys have any suggestions or spot something which can be improved on our site!

« Reply #49 on: December 12, 2014, 10:28 »
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Uploading process is smooth.  Tagging is easy too.  I heard Motionelements sales are better than Revostock.  I hope it's true. 

« Reply #50 on: December 12, 2014, 11:00 »
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Uploading process is smooth.  Tagging is easy too.  I heard Motionelements sales are better than Revostock.  I hope it's true.

I had two sales so far with 200 clips. I hope they expand beyond the Asian market. The videos I sold had nothing to do with Asia.

« Reply #51 on: December 12, 2014, 13:09 »
+2
I receiced today a very interesting email from ME suggesting that i MAY have some missing model releases in my portfolio.
Of course the text and form of the mail it was very general like an advertisement and since there is no inspection at ME i guess they sent this newsletter-ish email to everyone,which pretty much says it all about how covered legally everyone is when uploading at ME.

What this implies, sadly, is that in the unfortunate event one has not tagged his footage as editorial,or worse yet has and there are still legal issues,
ME is legally irresponsible since it will sell this footage anyway.

So i have spent a lot of time and effort uploading to an agency that hasn't got my back and refuses to be held accountable for my mistakes or mispractices if you like.
Had my 2nd sale this week too after 4 months and i think it's high time i halt my uploads,and eventually pull my port,since this business model of theirs seems questionable at best.

« Reply #52 on: December 12, 2014, 15:20 »
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I receiced today a very interesting email from ME suggesting that i MAY have some missing model releases in my portfolio.
Of course the text and form of the mail it was very general like an advertisement and since there is no inspection at ME i guess they sent this newsletter-ish email to everyone,which pretty much says it all about how covered legally everyone is when uploading at ME.

What this implies, sadly, is that in the unfortunate event one has not tagged his footage as editorial,or worse yet has and there are still legal issues,
ME is legally irresponsible since it will sell this footage anyway.

So i have spent a lot of time and effort uploading to an agency that hasn't got my back and refuses to be held accountable for my mistakes or mispractices if you like.
Had my 2nd sale this week too after 4 months and i think it's high time i halt my uploads,and eventually pull my port,since this business model of theirs seems questionable at best.

I got the same email but I only have a few models in vids which all have model releases.

« Reply #53 on: December 12, 2014, 16:16 »
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Yes.Confirms that it is absolutely random.i have been checking my clips and all the editorials are marked as such.


« Reply #55 on: January 20, 2015, 03:55 »
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Had the first sale reversal 1! month after the purchase of a somewhat expensive and rare clip.
The kind of WYSIWYG editorial footage.
I repeat, ONE month after purchase.

6 sales and one reversal so far since summer.
Next time this happens i wont bother,i'm deleting my port in a heartbeat.

Noedelhap

  • www.colincramm.com

« Reply #56 on: March 02, 2015, 19:42 »
+2
John,

When I get paid by MotionElements through Paypal, Paypal charges me a fee for receiving the payout. Other agencies usually pay those fees for us, so the contributor receives the correct amount of commissions. Why doesn't ME pay those fees?

« Reply #57 on: March 02, 2015, 19:52 »
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John,

When I get paid by MotionElements through Paypal, Paypal charges me a fee for receiving the payout. Other agencies usually pay those fees for us, so the contributor receives the correct amount of commissions. Why doesn't ME pay those fees?

Same Q here.

« Reply #58 on: March 03, 2015, 08:42 »
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John,

When I get paid by MotionElements through Paypal, Paypal charges me a fee for receiving the payout. Other agencies usually pay those fees for us, so the contributor receives the correct amount of commissions. Why doesn't ME pay those fees?

WHAT???  THAT'S INSANE!!

« Reply #59 on: March 03, 2015, 08:48 »
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John,

When I get paid by MotionElements through Paypal, Paypal charges me a fee for receiving the payout. Other agencies usually pay those fees for us, so the contributor receives the correct amount of commissions. Why doesn't ME pay those fees?

WHAT???  THAT'S INSANE!!

I took a payout from ME and I was also charged PP fees.  When I contacted them they told me it was me and to check with Paypal because they do not charge fees.  Of course I know that's 100% inaccurate.

« Reply #60 on: March 03, 2015, 09:10 »
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AND ....Japan confirms the introduction of a new B2C tax on digital services to come into effect from October 1, 2015.

Page 20.
https://www.dlapiper.com/~/media/Files/Insights/Publications/2014/06/Global_VAT_Guide.pdf


« Reply #61 on: March 03, 2015, 09:15 »
+1
AND ....Japan confirms the introduction of a new B2C tax on digital services to come into effect from October 1, 2015.

Page 20.
https://www.dlapiper.com/~/media/Files/Insights/Publications/2014/06/Global_VAT_Guide.pdf


Man, everyone wants a piece of our pie. Amazing. Do they want whipped cream with that?

« Reply #62 on: March 03, 2015, 09:17 »
0
I receiced today a very interesting email from ME suggesting that i MAY have some missing model releases in my portfolio.
Of course the text and form of the mail it was very general like an advertisement and since there is no inspection at ME i guess they sent this newsletter-ish email to everyone,which pretty much says it all about how covered legally everyone is when uploading at ME.

What this implies, sadly, is that in the unfortunate event one has not tagged his footage as editorial,or worse yet has and there are still legal issues,
ME is legally irresponsible since it will sell this footage anyway.

So i have spent a lot of time and effort uploading to an agency that hasn't got my back and refuses to be held accountable for my mistakes or mispractices if you like.
Had my 2nd sale this week too after 4 months and i think it's high time i halt my uploads,and eventually pull my port,since this business model of theirs seems questionable at best.

I received this email many months ago and instantly deleted all my clips numbering around 200. Since then I've uploaded again to 50 clips (nothing that could need releases). Still yet to make a sale here and I do well on P5/SS.

Not sure about this agency. Some of the favourite keywords searches are 'free clips', 'free downloads' which doesn't bode well if that's the expectations of people using the site.

« Reply #63 on: March 03, 2015, 10:38 »
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I receiced today a very interesting email from ME suggesting that i MAY have some missing model releases in my portfolio.
Of course the text and form of the mail it was very general like an advertisement and since there is no inspection at ME i guess they sent this newsletter-ish email to everyone,which pretty much says it all about how covered legally everyone is when uploading at ME.

What this implies, sadly, is that in the unfortunate event one has not tagged his footage as editorial,or worse yet has and there are still legal issues,
ME is legally irresponsible since it will sell this footage anyway.

So i have spent a lot of time and effort uploading to an agency that hasn't got my back and refuses to be held accountable for my mistakes or mispractices if you like.
Had my 2nd sale this week too after 4 months and i think it's high time i halt my uploads,and eventually pull my port,since this business model of theirs seems questionable at best.

I received this email many months ago and instantly deleted all my clips numbering around 200. Since then I've uploaded again to 50 clips (nothing that could need releases). Still yet to make a sale here and I do well on P5/SS.

Not sure about this agency. Some of the favourite keywords searches are 'free clips', 'free downloads' which doesn't bode well if that's the expectations of people using the site.

As i've said ME is behaving like a middleman or better yet like traffic warden of footage.Paypal fees are not really an issue,the big problem is that once you upload there you have no-one to "back you up" the way the major stock sites do,where they curate for starters,hence they accept legal responsibility on your behalf,etc.
What really killed ME for me was a sale reversal a month after the sale.
3 days i can understand,but this one month period as stated in their contract is a deal dropper for me.
I've never had something like that on p5 and SS (that i know of) .
At this point i am waiting for one final sale so i can pay back the fees owed by the reversal and after that im deleting everything at once and never looking back.
Better yet i might delete everything anyway,and send the money to them.
In a weird sense i almost feel good about it,but it's a shame though.

« Reply #64 on: March 11, 2015, 03:08 »
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Good morning.
Before asking in private via e-mail, would someone from ME care to explain why is it that files that have already been sold through ME months ago can't be deleted from the portfolio?
It seems they can only be unpublished.


Noedelhap

  • www.colincramm.com

« Reply #65 on: April 29, 2015, 06:06 »
+3
ME's upload is kinda buggy lately. File previews sometimes fail and elements don't always get published.  :-\

« Reply #66 on: April 29, 2015, 06:56 »
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ME's upload is kinda buggy lately. File previews sometimes fail and elements don't always get published.  :-\

Noticed the same thing.  I've had to re-upload several times. But not really any sales to be excited about. Maybe one a month if I'm lucky.
« Last Edit: April 29, 2015, 07:23 by Mantis »

« Reply #67 on: April 29, 2015, 07:13 »
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Im actually a bit bummed about ME.
Was really hoping it would worth the effort and time i spent there uploading most of my port,but in my case that didnt work.
I have deleted everything since, and i have yet to receive an official answer (sent an email 1+1/2 months ago) as to why i cant delete the clips from my portfolio that have had a sale,and as to how i can pay back the -10usd fee from a footage reversal.


« Reply #68 on: April 29, 2015, 07:26 »
+1
Im actually a bit bummed about ME.
Was really hoping it would worth the effort and time i spent there uploading most of my port,but in my case that didnt work.
I have deleted everything since, and i have yet to receive an official answer (sent an email 1+1/2 months ago) as to why i cant delete the clips from my portfolio that have had a sale,and as to how i can pay back the -10usd fee from a footage reversal.

That's unfortunate. Also, they have stopped participating here. My guess is that they are raking in whatever they can until it becomes "unsustainable". They started off right, communicating well with us, then BAM!! Silence. That always worries me when the community scenario is used upfront then they go blank. Shutter stock is now doing the same. Shameful. 

« Reply #69 on: April 30, 2015, 22:06 »
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Im actually a bit bummed about ME.
Was really hoping it would worth the effort and time i spent there uploading most of my port,but in my case that didnt work.

Same here. It looked very promising, with friendly and helpful support, but never paid off.

weathernewsonline

« Reply #70 on: December 21, 2015, 13:08 »
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An older thread here but just wondering how sales are over at ME, especially for editorial branded content.

Currently I am on P5, VB, SS, P5 being #1, VB, a close #2 and SS a very distant third, looking for a 4th and maybe 5th site to place my content on. 

« Reply #71 on: December 21, 2015, 14:42 »
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An older thread here but just wondering how sales are over at ME, especially for editorial branded content.

Currently I am on P5, VB, SS, P5 being #1, VB, a close #2 and SS a very distant third, looking for a 4th and maybe 5th site to place my content on.

I have about 900 clips there with a mix of animations and regular every day stuff and I get about one sale every two months. I am thinking of pulling the plug, but they do not do inspection so your images are online very quickly.

weathernewsonline

« Reply #72 on: December 21, 2015, 18:43 »
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An older thread here but just wondering how sales are over at ME, especially for editorial branded content.

Currently I am on P5, VB, SS, P5 being #1, VB, a close #2 and SS a very distant third, looking for a 4th and maybe 5th site to place my content on.

I have about 900 clips there with a mix of animations and regular every day stuff and I get about one sale every two months. I am thinking of pulling the plug, but they do not do inspection so your images are online very quickly.

Thanks for that, I was wondering because I hadn't heard much talk about them lately, the site looks nice, maybe not many buyers in Hong Kong and China tho.

Here I was hoping to make millions selling these clips to China. https://www.pond5.com/video-sound-effects-music-after-effects-photos-illustrations-images-3d-models/1/clipbin%3A1147315.html

« Reply #73 on: December 21, 2015, 18:52 »
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An older thread here but just wondering how sales are over at ME, especially for editorial branded content.

Currently I am on P5, VB, SS, P5 being #1, VB, a close #2 and SS a very distant third, looking for a 4th and maybe 5th site to place my content on.

I have about 900 clips there with a mix of animations and regular every day stuff and I get about one sale every two months. I am thinking of pulling the plug, but they do not do inspection so your images are online very quickly.

Thanks for that, I was wondering because I hadn't heard much talk about them lately, the site looks nice, maybe not many buyers in Hong Kong and China tho.

Here I was hoping to make millions selling these clips to China. https://www.pond5.com/video-sound-effects-music-after-effects-photos-illustrations-images-3d-models/1/clipbin%3A1147315.html

Their payment is fast and their customer response is very good. They have everything we want except customers....at least for my content. I have some stuff there that was completely non Asian, like Santa Barbara California.

weathernewsonline

« Reply #74 on: December 21, 2015, 19:19 »
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An older thread here but just wondering how sales are over at ME, especially for editorial branded content.

Currently I am on P5, VB, SS, P5 being #1, VB, a close #2 and SS a very distant third, looking for a 4th and maybe 5th site to place my content on.

I have about 900 clips there with a mix of animations and regular every day stuff and I get about one sale every two months. I am thinking of pulling the plug, but they do not do inspection so your images are online very quickly.

Thanks for that, I was wondering because I hadn't heard much talk about them lately, the site looks nice, maybe not many buyers in Hong Kong and China tho.

Here I was hoping to make millions selling these clips to China. https://www.pond5.com/video-sound-effects-music-after-effects-photos-illustrations-images-3d-models/1/clipbin%3A1147315.html

Their payment is fast and their customer response is very good. They have everything we want except customers....at least for my content. I have some stuff there that was completely non Asian, like Santa Barbara California.

That's why I was thinking of uploading there , most of my content except for my on campus stuff is non-Asian but that should be good, if Asian customers want epic blizzards and snow storm clips...I have em!, saves them the 15 hour flight from Hong Kong to shoot it themselves :)

I might still give them a go, it's a lot of work though, would be easier if I could send them a 6TB drive and have them go through it all and keyword it for me.  Would be nice to see if it sells, I am still looking for a 4th site, most don't like weather and hard news/events yet those sell for me on P5 and VB and in the last two months....sell very well.  Quite often my worst stuff sells, stuff I shouldn't have uploaded but being not rock steady or whatever made it a perfect fit for someone's project or they would have bought my more perfect clip sitting on the shelf right beside it for same price.

And then there is Dissolve, they actually told me my content would not sell, it's just good enough and wouldn't sell. Well it's selling quite well at P5 and VB and even now in December as we head towards the holiday shutdown there have been sales, not record sales but some.

Tempted to give motion elements a try if I can't find another site.

« Reply #75 on: December 21, 2015, 21:33 »
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An older thread here but just wondering how sales are over at ME, especially for editorial branded content.

Currently I am on P5, VB, SS, P5 being #1, VB, a close #2 and SS a very distant third, looking for a 4th and maybe 5th site to place my content on.

I deleted all my clips within a year this year.  No sales at all there.  Don't waste your time and effort.  It's better drinking egg nog than uploading and tagging there.

« Reply #76 on: December 22, 2015, 01:24 »
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I deleted all my clips within a year this year.  No sales at all there.  Don't waste your time and effort.  It's better drinking egg nog than uploading and tagging there.

I agree. They showed some promise in the beginning just to fade into nothing with time. Total waste of time unfortunately.

« Reply #77 on: December 22, 2015, 02:21 »
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I deleted all my clips within a year this year.  No sales at all there.  Don't waste your time and effort.  It's better drinking egg nog than uploading and tagging there.

Same thing for me !


 

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