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« on: September 18, 2016, 04:26 »
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Before this summer, I started a collaboration with a drone operator.
From May to now I have uploaded more than 500 new clips, some of them really beautiful.
The problem is that my income has increased very slightly.
I would like to figure out how much do I have to wait to get an estimate of the actual sales potential.
Is it too early to say?
I work with p5, vb and shutter.
I need to understand because I have to see if, maybe, I did something wrong with the tags, with the description or, simply, clips sell less than I expected.
Thanks.


« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2016, 05:08 »
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There is no formula to it. Some footage sell right away, some take time. It depends really how unique and interesting for further use your footage is. We did have some occasion that footage got sales right away, but mostly all needed few months to get some sales.

We did put this in to account and we shoot further without any expectations. We do what we like to do and it pays of somewhere in the future.

« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2016, 05:45 »
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Yeah, I agree. But I also believe that a valuation is necessary to improve.
 Otherwise I can not figure out if a certain type of footage sells or not.
 I do not think so "fatalistic" upload is the best choice.
I just wonder after how many months I can get a rough idea, to see if it is worth continuing the collaboration or concentrate my efforts on another kind of clips.

« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2016, 05:57 »
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Well, being honest, even if my wife didn't believe me it will work, buying a cute cat was a really good investment. It costed a bit, but it sells like crazy. ;)

PS; Now we have a cute dog too.  ::)

We've done a lot of aerial shooting too, but only few particular shoots are constantly selling. That's why we are planning new sets with related theme if it will sell too.

« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2016, 06:41 »
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I would give it a year at least. Unless you only shoot the big seller stuff it takes time to find a buyer, but when you do, you get a big nice smile on your face and hopefully a decent payout.

« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2016, 07:15 »
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You probably need to be patient and give it 5-10 years. If nothing has sold by then change it up a bit.

Benozaur

« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2016, 07:17 »
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Its hard to tell without seeing your clips, keywords and titles. Please post a link to your public portfolio and and we can offer more insight other than just general opinion.

« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2016, 07:20 »
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You probably need to be patient and give it 5-10 years. If nothing has sold by then change it up a bit.
5-10 YEARS???  :o :o
oh my...  :'(

« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2016, 07:22 »
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Its hard to tell without seeing your clips, keywords and titles. Please post a link to your public portfolio and and we can offer more insight other than just general opinion.


http://www.shutterstock.com/video/gallery/2581123/

« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2016, 07:31 »
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You have good stuff.  Spot-checking, you have good keywords.  Just give it time and don't stop.  Stuff will sell in time.

You may want to add a few more agencies once you feel comfortable adding to your upload workload.  In my experience, all agencies never seem to fire on all cylinders at the same time.  So, if agency 'A' and 'B' are down one week, agencies 'C' and 'D' may perform better for you for some reason.

Here are my agencies I submit too: http://orlowskidesigns.com/affiliated-agencies/. Yes, I spend hours submitting to all of them, and some don't perform as well as others, but it all eventually pays off.  And some even take spreadsheets for submissions, so aside from prepping your XLS file, uploading to those are relatively easy.
« Last Edit: September 18, 2016, 07:44 by odesigns »

« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2016, 07:43 »
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You have good stuff.  Spot-checking, you have good keywords.  Just give it time and don't stop.  Stuff will sell in time.

You may want to add a few more agencies once you feel comfortable adding to your upload workload.

Thanks so much.
Yes you are right. I also just started with Fotolia now.
But I have another 700 clips to be uploaded on the top 3 agencies before dedicate myself more seriously to other agencies.
The problem for me is just the "upload time" which forces me to make a choice.

« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2016, 09:15 »
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Its hard to tell without seeing your clips, keywords and titles. Please post a link to your public portfolio and and we can offer more insight other than just general opinion.


http://www.shutterstock.com/video/gallery/2581123/


Overall, your lighting looks very drab and the colors are murky and not white balanced correctly.  That may be a result of vintage filtering you're adding.

alno

« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2016, 09:16 »
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You have good stuff.  Spot-checking, you have good keywords.  Just give it time and don't stop.  Stuff will sell in time.

You may want to add a few more agencies once you feel comfortable adding to your upload workload.

Thanks so much.
Yes you are right. I also just started with Fotolia now.
But I have another 700 clips to be uploaded on the top 3 agencies before dedicate myself more seriously to other agencies.
The problem for me is just the "upload time" which forces me to make a choice.

Why not upload to all agencies at same time? For previous uploads you can use CSV file from pond5 for example and Stocksubmitter program.

« Reply #13 on: September 18, 2016, 09:46 »
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Overall, your lighting looks very drab and the colors are murky and not white balanced correctly.  That may be a result of vintage filtering you're adding.

Hi, It depends on which clips you saw.
Generally I use a "vintage effect" only when I have same problems with the original clip (noise, wrong exposure, etc) but I think the clip may still sell.
Example of color "vintage" made out of necessity:
http://www.shutterstock.com/it/video/clip-11275286-stock-footage-reproduction-vintage-video-making-cheese-traditional-manually-clip-filtered-to-look-like.html?src=gallery/ZTq1BJPb8uK64BL6-0hWQg:1:23/3p
http://www.shutterstock.com/it/video/clip-17768941-stock-footage-car-vintage-effect-mm-with-aerial-drone-n-the-camera-follows-the-machine-black-and-white.html?src=gallery/ZTq1BJPb8uK64BL6-0hWQg:1:31/3p

Example of "normal" color correction:
http://www.shutterstock.com/it/video/clip-16491727-stock-footage-muslim-floating-village-panyee-island-phanga-thailand-drone-aerial-shot-james-bond-island.html?src=gallery/ZTq1BJPb8uK64BL6-0hWQg:1:55/3p
http://www.shutterstock.com/it/video/clip-13641410-stock-footage-a-beautiful-girl-reads-shocking-news-on-her-smartphone-on-internet-as-the-beginning-of-a-war-or-a.html?src=gallery/ZTq1BJPb8uK64BL6-0hWQg:1:70/3p

Honestly, there are no differences between the number of sales vintage/no vintage clips,  indeed, some of the "vintage" sell well.

Why not upload to all agencies at same time? For previous uploads you can use CSV file from pond5 for example and Stocksubmitter program.

I tried it, but I still loaded separately on each ftp. Am I wrong?
My problem is not individually insert tags and descriptions, the problem is precisely the time to upload the files because they weigh a lot.

wds

« Reply #14 on: September 18, 2016, 10:02 »
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Sometimes I wonder with all the hype about clips...how much do they really sell?....is it more for the future?
Of course they do sell, but they are also harder to produce as compared to stills. Given that difference in effort, are clips worth the extra effort?

If you had a library of 3000 quality stills vs. 3000 quality clips,  how would the income streams compare?

I understand it is hard to compare "quality", but let's say you had some scenarios, whether it be people in the workplace, or people in a restaurant and
you created a series of stills vs. a series of clips, how would the sales compare, taking into account, that it is much easier to create more stills than clips
for a given scenario (implying that you would generate more stills that clips from a given scenario). If you do both clips and stills for a given scenario,
the question still remains as you have limited time and resources in a shoot and that will limit your "output".

« Reply #15 on: September 18, 2016, 10:41 »
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If you had a library of 3000 quality stills vs. 3000 quality clips,  how would the income streams compare?


I really do not know because I have always worked in video (I'm a director), I never made photography.
For me it is much easier (and convenient) to make a good video that a good still.

alno

« Reply #16 on: September 18, 2016, 12:00 »
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I tried it, but I still loaded separately on each ftp. Am I wrong?
My problem is not individually insert tags and descriptions, the problem is precisely the time to upload the files because they weigh a lot.

How this could be wrong if you just feel more comfortable with separate ftp upload? :) Of course this depends on what type of internet access you have at the moment.

« Reply #17 on: September 18, 2016, 12:20 »
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Of course this depends on what type of internet access you have at the moment.
The very slow type  :'(

« Reply #18 on: September 18, 2016, 13:37 »
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As some have pointed out, your white balance is off on many (most) of the clips, and there are more color issues. I would fix that and upload again. They have a greenish tint that doesn't look too pleasing. Check the pharmacy stuff - neutral or with slightly blue looks better.

alno

« Reply #19 on: September 18, 2016, 13:40 »
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Of course this depends on what type of internet access you have at the moment.
The very slow type  :'(

Check Stocksubmitter forum here soon, they are about to release new cloud service version. It might be good for you since you only have to upload once and the program will distribute content to many stock sites.

« Reply #20 on: September 18, 2016, 14:05 »
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Thank you all for the suggestions, but, to be honest, I did not write the post to have a report on my videos.
Generally they sell all (especially those in the pharmacy) with an average of $ 1 / clips per month.
I do not change what already works for me.
My question concerns some aerial video that I added in the last four months, which, however, have an average sales of 0.5 / clips per month.
What I want to find out is if it is still too early to judge the yield, or if it is just the kind of video that sells less.
When and if I serve suggestions for everything else, I will be delighted to create a separate post.

« Reply #21 on: September 18, 2016, 14:09 »
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Check Stocksubmitter forum here soon, they are about to release new cloud service version. It might be good for you since you only have to upload once and the program will distribute content to many stock sites.
Yeah, I know, I am following their "evolution." Would be great. ;)

« Reply #22 on: September 18, 2016, 14:27 »
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Thank you all for the suggestions, but, to be honest, I did not write the post to have a report on my videos.
Generally they sell all (especially those in the pharmacy) with an average of $ 1 / clips per month.
I do not change what already works for me.
My question concerns some aerial video that I added in the last four months, which, however, have an average sales of 0.5 / clips per month.
What I want to find out is if it is still too early to judge the yield, or if it is just the kind of video that sells less.

When and if I serve suggestions for everything else, I will be delighted to create a separate post.

Here are my thoughts:

1. There is a lot of drone footage these days, so you have to really get unique, well shot footage to get repeatable sales. 

2. Diversify your drone footage

3. Do your homework.  Research what sells, create your own style (seems you have done some of this already).

4. Sales for videos is not the same as stills, so you really must have volume in most cases.  Shooters like spacestockfootage have fairly unique stuff.  When you shoot competitive compositions it will be exponentially more difficult to gain sales as the competitive landscape toughens.  For example, there are a lot of beach shots on Pond 5. I have a lot of beach shots. Only a couple of my beach shots do well because they are more unique and well shot.  The rest just allow me to claim I have 1300 videos, more or less.

In conclusion, diversification, quality, uniqueness and volume will help differentiate your work and probably lead to more sales.  Sales on one site will be different than on others.  That is something you simply must accept.

Some of your clips are pretty cool.  I would make sure, as others have said, that your key wording is top notch.  Research key words for your subject matter.  It can really help, but does consume a lot of time to die a good job. Key wording is an art, more or less.  Some are very good at it and can plop 30 words that are spot on. Others put in c r a p and never get found.  Others take their time and make sure their key words are relevant and researched. 

That's my 2 cents.

« Reply #23 on: September 18, 2016, 14:34 »
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Here are my thoughts:

1. There is a lot of drone footage these days, so you have to really get unique, well shot footage to get repeatable sales. 

2. Diversify your drone footage

3. Do your homework.  Research what sells, create your own style (seems you have done some of this already).

4. Sales for videos is not the same as stills, so you really must have volume in most cases.  Shooters like spacestockfootage have fairly unique stuff.  When you shoot competitive compositions it will be exponentially more difficult to gain sales as the competitive landscape toughens.  For example, there are a lot of beach shots on Pond 5. I have a lot of beach shots. Only a couple of my beach shots do well because they are more unique and well shot.  The rest just allow me to claim I have 1300 videos, more or less.

In conclusion, diversification, quality, uniqueness and volume will help differentiate your work and probably lead to more sales.  Sales on one site will be different than on others.  That is something you simply must accept.

Some of your clips are pretty cool.  I would make sure, as others have said, that your key wording is top notch.  Research key words for your subject matter.  It can really help, but does consume a lot of time to die a good job. Key wording is an art, more or less.  Some are very good at it and can plop 30 words that are spot on. Others put in c r a p and never get found.  Others take their time and make sure their key words are relevant and researched. 

That's my 2 cents.

<3 Thanks, good and useful.

« Reply #24 on: September 18, 2016, 15:04 »
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Thank you all for the suggestions, but, to be honest, I did not write the post to have a report on my videos.
Generally they sell all (especially those in the pharmacy)

Imagine how much they would sell if they were perfect so that the buyers don't have to color correct. That stuff could sell every day.


 

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