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« on: June 21, 2023, 17:38 »
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If you upload to Artgrid, you may find your clips on this account.

MediaFuzeBox brought this to our attention on another thread on this forum.
https://www.pond5.com/community?thread=221323541&page=3

This is the account.  7,445 clips probably all stolen on Artgrid unlimited download.
https://www.pond5.com/artist/macropro85814

Keyword search the portfolio.
https://www.pond5.com/search?kw=&media=footage&artist=macropro85814

Many clips are horizontally flipped.
Original?
https://artgrid.io/clip/472405/new-york-buildings-skyscrapers-manhattan

Stolen?
https://www.pond5.com/stock-footage/item/210696933-new-york-buildings-skyscrapers-manhattan
« Last Edit: June 22, 2023, 06:18 by blvdone »


« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2023, 18:43 »
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« Last Edit: June 21, 2023, 19:32 by blvdone »


« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2023, 19:18 »
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Original
https://artgrid.io/clip/76952/plane-aircraft-airplane-landing

Cropped, frame rate lowered to make it longer, horizontally flipped and color adjusted? Sold 2 times.
https://www.pond5.com/stock-footage/item/221398995-airplane-landing-aircraft-plane

« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2023, 19:18 »
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« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2023, 19:20 »
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« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2023, 03:26 »
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It's all nonsense, it doesn't matter. If you sell on Artgrid and Storyblocks your income is much higher than your income on Pond5 and other stocks too. And even if someone steals your video and tries to sell it on Pond5, this is nonsense. Moreover, the thief will still be banned for pond5.
The only problem is that it is almost impossible to get on Artgrid or Storyblocks, these stock agencies are very demanding on content.
If any of the authors are selling their video on Artgrid and Storyblocks, I take my hat off. This is an indicator of the high level of the author.
« Last Edit: June 22, 2023, 03:29 by stoker2014 »

« Reply #7 on: June 22, 2023, 03:31 »
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This topic doesn't make any sense. Post your information in topics dedicated to theft on stocks.

« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2023, 04:17 »
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Blvdone, just ignore Stocker2014 and it's ramblings.

« Reply #9 on: June 22, 2023, 05:06 »
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Thank you blvdone for the detective work you put in.

« Reply #10 on: June 22, 2023, 06:11 »
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Blvdone, just ignore Stocker2014 and it's ramblings.

Yes, I do ignore.  Good advice!!

« Reply #11 on: June 22, 2023, 06:12 »
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Thank you blvdone for the detective work you put in.

You are welcome!!

« Reply #12 on: June 22, 2023, 06:13 »
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Good news!!  Pond5 took a swift action and deleted the thief's account with over 7,000 stolen clips from Artgrid.

"Madita here, Compliance Analyst with Pond5 Compliance Reviews.
 
Please note we have removed the items and accounts brought to our attention.
 
If any further accounts or items require our attention, do not hesitate to let us know right away.
 
All the best,
Madita (she/her)
Customer Care Gladiator & Compliance Analyst"

« Reply #13 on: June 22, 2023, 06:17 »
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But the thief sold 76 times on Pond5 Exclusive since 2022.  Price of the clips were $25/HD and $50/4k.  So, I think the average revenue per clip was about $20.  Total revenue of about $1,500 of 7,445 clips he downloaded, uploaded and tagged.  Was it worth the hours the thief put in?  Maybe not.  But if the thief lives in developing country with low cost of living, it's not bad maybe.

« Reply #14 on: June 22, 2023, 06:35 »
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Preparing and uploading so many clips is a lot of work. The thief could have easily used that time to create original content. Even with just a small camera or mobile phone.

The quality would not have been the same, but the content would have been his and his account could have stayed open forever and could even be passed down to children.

In some ways it is sad all around, even for the stupid thief.

« Reply #15 on: June 22, 2023, 06:42 »
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Bad news!!!  Found another account full of stolen clips from Artgrid!!

https://www.shutterstock.com/g/Yodhi+Feriawan/video


« Reply #17 on: June 22, 2023, 06:55 »
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Perhaps the agencies should once team up for a large blog post about content theft and publish it at the same time.

Pointing out that accounts with stolen content are banned forever.

Also they should absolutely use ai and automatically scan all newbie accounts. Maybe when they reach 100 files?

Or just scan all uploads automatically.

The sooner these ports get closed down, the faster they learn.

« Reply #18 on: June 22, 2023, 08:24 »
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If you sell on Artgrid and Storyblocks your income is much higher than your income on Pond5 and other stocks too.

I would like to know what you are relying on to guarantee what you say. Just your portfolio? If it's just that, it's not enough.

Let's be modest, shall we? maybe it works for you, not for me.

The only problem is that it is almost impossible to get on Artgrid or Storyblocks,

Good thing they don't let practically anyone in.  :)

« Reply #19 on: June 22, 2023, 09:43 »
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If you sell on Artgrid and Storyblocks your income is much higher than your income on Pond5 and other stocks too.

I would like to know what you are relying on to guarantee what you say. Just your portfolio? If it's just that, it's not enough.

Let's be modest, shall we? maybe it works for you, not for me.

The only problem is that it is almost impossible to get on Artgrid or Storyblocks,

Good thing they don't let practically anyone in.  :)
Do you sell videos on Artgrid and Storyblocks?
I'm based on the information I've been told by people who sell videos there.

Of course, it's good that the authors are not allowed, especially when you are already there, this is logical.

« Reply #20 on: June 22, 2023, 10:11 »
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Preparing and uploading so many clips is a lot of work. The thief could have easily used that time to create original content. Even with just a small camera or mobile phone.

The quality would not have been the same, but the content would have been his and his account could have stayed open forever and could even be passed down to children.

In some ways it is sad all around, even for the stupid thief.


Yes, of course.  But that's what criminals always do.  That's how criminal mind works.  They think they are smart and it's easy way out, but often end up paying price for their criminality and stupidity.

« Reply #21 on: June 22, 2023, 18:20 »
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If you sell on Artgrid and Storyblocks your income is much higher than your income on Pond5 and other stocks too.

I would like to know what you are relying on to guarantee what you say. Just your portfolio? If it's just that, it's not enough.

Let's be modest, shall we? maybe it works for you, not for me.

The only problem is that it is almost impossible to get on Artgrid or Storyblocks,

Good thing they don't let practically anyone in.  :)
Do you sell videos on Artgrid and Storyblocks?
I'm based on the information I've been told by people who sell videos there.

Of course, it's good that the authors are not allowed, especially when you are already there, this is logical.

Fortunately I don't sell on Artgrid. But i am aware of how it works well to a Small Producer Company with less than 30 employees where i work as a freelancer. They download daily roughly 100 clips and pay 50$/month for it.

I had a Videoblocks client account turned into Storyblocks account. Once I did upload 800 clips i did not sent to curators when i found out it was unlimited downloads. I ended up deleting all the clips and closing the account. It is not profitable to me.

But let's do the math.
In theory 600$ cost for 36400 videos/ year on Artgrid. Profit is huge for them is it not? The only thing that companies complain is lack of diversity so they usually go spend in others microstock sites after a while because they cannot present same videos to the clients each month. How many downloads do you think a contributor needs to do on Artgrid to make 6 digits?

Now let's do the math with the other side of the coin.
I can tell you that you can make nearly 6 digits with less than 2000 downloads in limited download sites.

The rule of a big/medium/small company to make profit is how to save money. So first they drain all they can from these sites. Afterwards they will go to others sites to find the diversity they need in the videos. Once i got to know how these clients think i immediately understood i could get a better return for a clip in other sites. Occasionally i even sell them directly instead using my microstock account which is even more profitable to me.
This is how they work: cycle of 3/4 years. They combine an unlimited download site with single sales from other sites. First they had Artgrid, then videoblocks, then Storyblocks and now Artgrid (again) combining it with SS, P5 and Adobe.

You missed my point of "Good thing they don't let practically anyone in"...
Less people there, less clips there, less thieves and more fast companies will move on to other sites once "the unlimited" pond runs dry. ;D


   

« Last Edit: June 22, 2023, 18:22 by Evaristo tenscadisto »

« Reply #22 on: June 22, 2023, 18:58 »
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3 identical clips found on Adobe Stock.

This one probably is the original based on the oldest clip ID #.
https://stock.adobe.com/video/Budget-business-chart%2C-investment%2C-statistics-and-report.-4K-animation-seaml/136586327

Identical clips.
https://stock.adobe.com/video/Gold-coins-stacked-on-a-sheet-with-line-chart/369612884
https://stock.adobe.com/video/Decimal-numbers-counting-over-shining-gold-coins-placed-on-a-grid-graphs-with-co/320389785

The latter 2 accounts are uploading service account.  They can't/don't vet and detect thieves uploading stolen clips to them. 

« Reply #23 on: June 22, 2023, 19:01 »
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If you sell on Artgrid and Storyblocks your income is much higher than your income on Pond5 and other stocks too.

I would like to know what you are relying on to guarantee what you say. Just your portfolio? If it's just that, it's not enough.

Let's be modest, shall we? maybe it works for you, not for me.

The only problem is that it is almost impossible to get on Artgrid or Storyblocks,

Good thing they don't let practically anyone in.  :)
Do you sell videos on Artgrid and Storyblocks?
I'm based on the information I've been told by people who sell videos there.

Of course, it's good that the authors are not allowed, especially when you are already there, this is logical.

Fortunately I don't sell on Artgrid. But i am aware of how it works well to a Small Producer Company with less than 30 employees where i work as a freelancer. They download daily roughly 100 clips and pay 50$/month for it.

I had a Videoblocks client account turned into Storyblocks account. Once I did upload 800 clips i did not sent to curators when i found out it was unlimited downloads. I ended up deleting all the clips and closing the account. It is not profitable to me.

But let's do the math.
In theory 600$ cost for 36400 videos/ year on Artgrid. Profit is huge for them is it not? The only thing that companies complain is lack of diversity so they usually go spend in others microstock sites after a while because they cannot present same videos to the clients each month. How many downloads do you think a contributor needs to do on Artgrid to make 6 digits?

Now let's do the math with the other side of the coin.
I can tell you that you can make nearly 6 digits with less than 2000 downloads in limited download sites.

The rule of a big/medium/small company to make profit is how to save money. So first they drain all they can from these sites. Afterwards they will go to others sites to find the diversity they need in the videos. Once i got to know how these clients think i immediately understood i could get a better return for a clip in other sites. Occasionally i even sell them directly instead using my microstock account which is even more profitable to me.
This is how they work: cycle of 3/4 years. They combine an unlimited download site with single sales from other sites. First they had Artgrid, then videoblocks, then Storyblocks and now Artgrid (again) combining it with SS, P5 and Adobe.

You missed my point of "Good thing they don't let practically anyone in"...
Less people there, less clips there, less thieves and more fast companies will move on to other sites once "the unlimited" pond runs dry. ;D


 


Good point!!

« Reply #24 on: June 23, 2023, 02:17 »
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If you sell on Artgrid and Storyblocks your income is much higher than your income on Pond5 and other stocks too.

I would like to know what you are relying on to guarantee what you say. Just your portfolio? If it's just that, it's not enough.

Let's be modest, shall we? maybe it works for you, not for me.

The only problem is that it is almost impossible to get on Artgrid or Storyblocks,

Good thing they don't let practically anyone in.  :)
Do you sell videos on Artgrid and Storyblocks?
I'm based on the information I've been told by people who sell videos there.

Of course, it's good that the authors are not allowed, especially when you are already there, this is logical.

Fortunately I don't sell on Artgrid. But i am aware of how it works well to a Small Producer Company with less than 30 employees where i work as a freelancer. They download daily roughly 100 clips and pay 50$/month for it.

I had a Videoblocks client account turned into Storyblocks account. Once I did upload 800 clips i did not sent to curators when i found out it was unlimited downloads. I ended up deleting all the clips and closing the account. It is not profitable to me.

But let's do the math.
In theory 600$ cost for 36400 videos/ year on Artgrid. Profit is huge for them is it not? The only thing that companies complain is lack of diversity so they usually go spend in others microstock sites after a while because they cannot present same videos to the clients each month. How many downloads do you think a contributor needs to do on Artgrid to make 6 digits?

Now let's do the math with the other side of the coin.
I can tell you that you can make nearly 6 digits with less than 2000 downloads in limited download sites.

The rule of a big/medium/small company to make profit is how to save money. So first they drain all they can from these sites. Afterwards they will go to others sites to find the diversity they need in the videos. Once i got to know how these clients think i immediately understood i could get a better return for a clip in other sites. Occasionally i even sell them directly instead using my microstock account which is even more profitable to me.
This is how they work: cycle of 3/4 years. They combine an unlimited download site with single sales from other sites. First they had Artgrid, then videoblocks, then Storyblocks and now Artgrid (again) combining it with SS, P5 and Adobe.

You missed my point of "Good thing they don't let practically anyone in"...
Less people there, less clips there, less thieves and more fast companies will move on to other sites once "the unlimited" pond runs dry. ;D
This is all theory and has nothing to do with practice. Your opinion is not interesting because you have never sold your video on Artgrid or Storyblocks.
There is such a Netflix service, the subscription costs little money, but Netflix earns a lot of money in the end. The same goes for Artgrid or Storyblocks.
Yes, there are buyers who pay a lot of money and buy videos on Pond5 or shutterstock, and there are still a lot of people (millions) who buy a subscription to Artgrid or Storyblocks.
In general, I know video sellers on Artgrid or Storyblocks and I know what to write about here, but you dont know sellers on Artgrid or Storyblocks.
Goodbye.


 

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