Originally, somebody reported this on Pond5 artist forum.
https://www.pond5.com/community?thread=221323541&page=4

MediaFuzeBox 2023-06-21 18:00
Yeah definitely flipped.
This is one of my clips they stole:
https://www.pond5.com/stock-footage/item/226125303-wild-horses-onaqui-horse-herd-utah-simpson-springs
vs my clip
https://www.pond5.com/stock-footage/item/217385688-wild-horse-moving-through-desert-slow-motion-nostrils-flap

Original
https://artgrid.io/clip/76952/plane-aircraft-airplane-landing

Cropped, frame rate lowered to make it longer, horizontally flipped and color adjusted? Sold 2 times.
https://www.pond5.com/stock-footage/item/221398995-airplane-landing-aircraft-plane

Original.
https://artgrid.io/clip/45852/snow-blowing-wind-cold

Cropped and horizontally flipped.  Sold 2 times.
https://www.pond5.com/stock-footage/item/196921233-wind-blowing-snow-top-snowy-mountains

This topic doesn't make any sense. Post your information in topics dedicated to theft on stocks.

Thank you blvdone for the detective work you put in.

Thank you blvdone for the detective work you put in.

You are welcome!!

But the thief sold 76 times on Pond5 Exclusive since 2022.  Price of the clips were $25/HD and $50/4k.  So, I think the average revenue per clip was about $20.  Total revenue of about $1,500 of 7,445 clips he downloaded, uploaded and tagged.  Was it worth the hours the thief put in?  Maybe not.  But if the thief lives in developing country with low cost of living, it's not bad maybe.

Bad news!!!  Found another account full of stolen clips from Artgrid!!

https://www.shutterstock.com/g/Yodhi+Feriawan/video

Perhaps the agencies should once team up for a large blog post about content theft and publish it at the same time.

Pointing out that accounts with stolen content are banned forever.

Also they should absolutely use ai and automatically scan all newbie accounts. Maybe when they reach 100 files?

Or just scan all uploads automatically.

The sooner these ports get closed down, the faster they learn.

Quote from: stoker2014 on June 22, 2023, 03:26

If you sell on Artgrid and Storyblocks your income is much higher than your income on Pond5 and other stocks too.

I would like to know what you are relying on to guarantee what you say. Just your portfolio? If it's just that, it's not enough.

Let's be modest, shall we? maybe it works for you, not for me.

Quote from: stoker2014 on June 22, 2023, 03:26

The only problem is that it is almost impossible to get on Artgrid or Storyblocks,

Good thing they don't let practically anyone in. 

Do you sell videos on Artgrid and Storyblocks?
I'm based on the information I've been told by people who sell videos there.

Of course, it's good that the authors are not allowed, especially when you are already there, this is logical.

Quote from: Evaristo tenscadisto on June 22, 2023, 08:24

Quote from: stoker2014 on June 22, 2023, 03:26

If you sell on Artgrid and Storyblocks your income is much higher than your income on Pond5 and other stocks too.

I would like to know what you are relying on to guarantee what you say. Just your portfolio? If it's just that, it's not enough.

Let's be modest, shall we? maybe it works for you, not for me.

Quote from: stoker2014 on June 22, 2023, 03:26

The only problem is that it is almost impossible to get on Artgrid or Storyblocks,

Good thing they don't let practically anyone in. 

Do you sell videos on Artgrid and Storyblocks?
I'm based on the information I've been told by people who sell videos there.

Of course, it's good that the authors are not allowed, especially when you are already there, this is logical.

Fortunately I don't sell on Artgrid. But i am aware of how it works well to a Small Producer Company with less than 30 employees where i work as a freelancer. They download daily roughly 100 clips and pay 50$/month for it.

I had a Videoblocks client account turned into Storyblocks account. Once I did upload 800 clips i did not sent to curators when i found out it was unlimited downloads. I ended up deleting all the clips and closing the account. It is not profitable to me.

But let's do the math.
In theory 600$ cost for 36400 videos/ year on Artgrid. Profit is huge for them is it not? The only thing that companies complain is lack of diversity so they usually go spend in others microstock sites after a while because they cannot present same videos to the clients each month. How many downloads do you think a contributor needs to do on Artgrid to make 6 digits?

Now let's do the math with the other side of the coin.
I can tell you that you can make nearly 6 digits with less than 2000 downloads in limited download sites.

The rule of a big/medium/small company to make profit is how to save money. So first they drain all they can from these sites. Afterwards they will go to others sites to find the diversity they need in the videos. Once i got to know how these clients think i immediately understood i could get a better return for a clip in other sites. Occasionally i even sell them directly instead using my microstock account which is even more profitable to me.
This is how they work: cycle of 3/4 years. They combine an unlimited download site with single sales from other sites. First they had Artgrid, then videoblocks, then Storyblocks and now Artgrid (again) combining it with SS, P5 and Adobe.

You missed my point of "Good thing they don't let practically anyone in"...
Less people there, less clips there, less thieves and more fast companies will move on to other sites once "the unlimited" pond runs dry.


   

Quote from: stoker2014 on June 22, 2023, 09:43

Quote from: Evaristo tenscadisto on June 22, 2023, 08:24

Quote from: stoker2014 on June 22, 2023, 03:26

If you sell on Artgrid and Storyblocks your income is much higher than your income on Pond5 and other stocks too.

I would like to know what you are relying on to guarantee what you say. Just your portfolio? If it's just that, it's not enough.

Let's be modest, shall we? maybe it works for you, not for me.

Quote from: stoker2014 on June 22, 2023, 03:26

The only problem is that it is almost impossible to get on Artgrid or Storyblocks,

Good thing they don't let practically anyone in. 

Do you sell videos on Artgrid and Storyblocks?
I'm based on the information I've been told by people who sell videos there.

Of course, it's good that the authors are not allowed, especially when you are already there, this is logical.

Fortunately I don't sell on Artgrid. But i am aware of how it works well to a Small Producer Company with less than 30 employees where i work as a freelancer. They download daily roughly 100 clips and pay 50$/month for it.

I had a Videoblocks client account turned into Storyblocks account. Once I did upload 800 clips i did not sent to curators when i found out it was unlimited downloads. I ended up deleting all the clips and closing the account. It is not profitable to me.

But let's do the math.
In theory 600$ cost for 36400 videos/ year on Artgrid. Profit is huge for them is it not? The only thing that companies complain is lack of diversity so they usually go spend in others microstock sites after a while because they cannot present same videos to the clients each month. How many downloads do you think a contributor needs to do on Artgrid to make 6 digits?

Now let's do the math with the other side of the coin.
I can tell you that you can make nearly 6 digits with less than 2000 downloads in limited download sites.

The rule of a big/medium/small company to make profit is how to save money. So first they drain all they can from these sites. Afterwards they will go to others sites to find the diversity they need in the videos. Once i got to know how these clients think i immediately understood i could get a better return for a clip in other sites. Occasionally i even sell them directly instead using my microstock account which is even more profitable to me.
This is how they work: cycle of 3/4 years. They combine an unlimited download site with single sales from other sites. First they had Artgrid, then videoblocks, then Storyblocks and now Artgrid (again) combining it with SS, P5 and Adobe.

You missed my point of "Good thing they don't let practically anyone in"...
Less people there, less clips there, less thieves and more fast companies will move on to other sites once "the unlimited" pond runs dry.


 

Good point!!

This is all theory and has nothing to do with practice. Your opinion is not interesting because you have never sold your video on Artgrid or Storyblocks.
There is such a Netflix service, the subscription costs little money, but Netflix earns a lot of money in the end. The same goes for Artgrid or Storyblocks.
Yes, there are buyers who pay a lot of money and buy videos on Pond5 or shutterstock, and there are still a lot of people (millions) who buy a subscription to Artgrid or Storyblocks.
In general, I know video sellers on Artgrid or Storyblocks and I know what to write about here, but you don�t know sellers on Artgrid or Storyblocks.
Goodbye.

If you read carefully what you wrote you will realize what you say applies to you. you don't sell there and it's just theory or talk from people you say you know. On the other hand i do know how many downloads we need to make on artgrid to make 6 digits but i won't tell you to not spoil your dream or fantasy.
Cheers!

Quote from: Evaristo tenscadisto on June 23, 2023, 11:36

Quote from: stoker2014 on June 23, 2023, 02:17

This is all theory and has nothing to do with practice. Your opinion is not interesting because you have never sold your video on Artgrid or Storyblocks.
There is such a Netflix service, the subscription costs little money, but Netflix earns a lot of money in the end. The same goes for Artgrid or Storyblocks.
Yes, there are buyers who pay a lot of money and buy videos on Pond5 or shutterstock, and there are still a lot of people (millions) who buy a subscription to Artgrid or Storyblocks.
In general, I know video sellers on Artgrid or Storyblocks and I know what to write about here, but you don�t know sellers on Artgrid or Storyblocks.
Goodbye.

If you read carefully what you wrote you will realize what you say applies to you. you don't sell there and it's just theory or talk from people you say you know. On the other hand i do know how many downloads we need to make on artgrid to make 6 digits but i won't tell you to not spoil your dream or fantasy.
Cheers!

I sell on other subscription stocks like Envato Elements and more. And I know how much money I get from Envato.
Your firm is not the only subscriber to artgrid. There are many subscribers and everyone pays for a subscription.
Also, your example is off topic at all. If I've talked to those who sell their videos on Artgrid or Storyblocks, then you haven't even done that.

Don't get me wrong but just saying that "people make more money in Artgrid and storyblocks" than other sites is not enough. It's just your opinion and not a fact. And when i ask for facts or anything substantial that outlines your affirmation you come up with "i know people" and "i sell on envato elements". Well.... I've been on Envato via videohive for 12 years but please enlighten us:

Do you make 6 digits with less of 2000 downloads on envato elements? yes or no?
Does any of the people you know on artgrid makes 6 digits with less of 2000 downloads? yes or no?

Otherwise i feel that you are just here for joking/trolling with us. Are you?

Quote from: Evaristo tenscadisto on June 23, 2023, 14:19

Do you make 6 digits with less of 2000 downloads on envato elements? yes or no?
Does any of the people you know on artgrid makes 6 digits with less of 2000 downloads? yes or no?

What is 6 digits? Is it 100,000 dollars?
I don't count the number of downloads, I only count the dollars Envato pays me. And Envato pays me a lot more than Pond5. I also have a lot less videos on Envato than on Pond5.
What are we to talk about? You do not sell videos on Envato.

Thanks for your response. It was very enlightening for the differences of opinion we were having. Btw you can find how many sales you made on earnings/item_sales page. On Artgrid they don't tell you how much downloads/sales you make. They only give you one payment at the end of the year.

I am happy Envato works better for you. For my portfolio it's exactly the opposite.
Wish all the best for your sales!

This guy has only about 200 clips on Artgrid, but made $4,000 in 2021 he says.  That's actually very high revenue per clip.  But also he says revenue per download is only about $0.50.  So, I think it all comes down to whatever you are comfortable with.  Those who are selling on Artgrid tend not to be traditional stock video creators.  They are filmmakers who put their footages on Artgrid. 

https://youtu.be/3z0i47HpGao?t=127

https://artgrid.io/filmmaker/619/sjoerd-wess

Yes, Artgrid has very specific content in my opinion. But here on Storyblocks the content is the most common, as well as on other stocks.