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« on: December 11, 2018, 12:34 »
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« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2018, 12:41 »
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Fantastic news!

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« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2018, 13:17 »
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Yes, do all the main stock video sites accept Prores?

Any nice articles on what the best settings should be for export?

Steve

« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2018, 13:30 »
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Yes, do all the main stock video sites accept Prores?

Any nice articles on what the best settings should be for export?

Steve

Yes all the main sites accept Prores.

I find Prores 4444 give the best quality if you can maintain your file size under 3Gb (to be able to submit it to most sites). Otherwise Prores 422 (HQ) or 422 is also good.

wds

« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2018, 23:15 »
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If your camera outputs H.264 and you are merely trimming the start and end of the clip, does this really matter?

« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2018, 02:26 »
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If your camera outputs H.264 and you are merely trimming the start and end of the clip, does this really matter?

I'd still export to ProRes 1- to avoid a heavier double compression and 2- it looks a bit better for potential buyers as some of them will not buy a file in h264 if they're planning to use it on a large screen or do some heavy editing to it.

You can try to make 2 different exports of the same video and compare them side by side. My guess is that on the H264, you might see more artefacts or lines in the shadows and plain colour areas.
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« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2018, 04:36 »
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I have seen at Shutterstock's codec requirements page that they accept Apple ProRes 422 LT.
I have done three different test exports with Apple ProRes 422 QT, Apple ProRes 422 LT & Apple ProRes 422.
Is Apple ProRes 422 LT (for us windows users) going to be ok to submit to all agencies?
I have seen the differences in size but does anyone know about any other differences, I did not have the time to evaluate since I have just updated at work Premiere to 13.0.2.
Up to now with DNx I had no badning or other export problems as compared to exporting in H.264, due to heavy grading.
Is Apple ProRes 422 LT going to be in that matter the same as DNx or "better"?
A NeatVideo denoised file had no problem in DNx but ended up with banding in H.264. Is it safe to suppose that Apple ProRes 422 LT will not have that problem?
Finally, does anyone know if Motionelements and Depositphotos accept Apple ProRes 422 LT?

« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2018, 05:00 »
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I have seen at Shutterstock's codec requirements page that they accept Apple ProRes 422 LT.
I have done three different test exports with Apple ProRes 422 QT, Apple ProRes 422 LT & Apple ProRes 422.
Is Apple ProRes 422 LT (for us windows users) going to be ok to submit to all agencies?
I have seen the differences in size but does anyone know about any other differences, I did not have the time to evaluate since I have just updated at work Premiere to 13.0.2.
Up to now with DNx I had no badning or other export problems as compared to exporting in H.264, due to heavy grading.
Is Apple ProRes 422 LT going to be in that matter the same as DNx or "better"?
A NeatVideo denoised file had no problem in DNx but ended up with banding in H.264. Is it safe to suppose that Apple ProRes 422 LT will not have that problem?
Finally, does anyone know if Motionelements and Depositphotos accept Apple ProRes 422 LT?

In terms of best quality to worse (including banding), here's my rankings after doing a few different exports:

1 - Prores 4444
2 - Prores 422 (HQ)
3 - Prores 422
4 - Prores 422 (LT)
5 - h.264

I'm pretty sure all agencies accept HQ and LT as they've been accepting 4444 and 422 so far without any issue.

Basically, as a general rule, the smaller the file, the lower the quality - and the smaller the file, the more banding.

« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2018, 05:08 »
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https://theblog.adobe.com/adobe-pro-video-apps-now-support-prores-export-on-windows/?fbclid=IwAR3w25139p3V_Stj22knVhK2-E39LuNr8m0No-ZasSse6m1BjrAp-eCrJUM

I use Davinci Resolve and hope it comes to this editing suite soon too.
This is really interesting, thank you for sharing.

All agencies so far have been accepting ProRes, but mostly coming from a Mac.
I have tried in the past to upload ProRes files encoded on Widows using LRTimelapse and they were refused by all agencies on the grounds of copyright.
I hope Adobe has cleared copyright issues for this version of ProRes

« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2018, 15:59 »
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Yes, do all the main stock video sites accept Prores?

Any nice articles on what the best settings should be for export?

Steve

Yes all the main sites accept Prores.

I find Prores 4444 give the best quality if you can maintain your file size under 3Gb (to be able to submit it to most sites). Otherwise Prores 422 (HQ) or 422 is also good.

I'm excited that Windows users can export ProRes from the latest version of Premiere Pro.  As far as recommendations, I tend to shy away from 4444 because for Stock purposes, it doesn't provide material improvement to the clips. It also has an alpha channel included which will balloon the file size if you're not careful.

ProRes422 HQ or similar is a very quality output that pretty much everybody including Adobe Stock will accept.  Our video guidelines in part are here: https://helpx.adobe.com/stock/contributor/help/video-requirements.html

Hope this helps,
Dennis


 

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