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Title: Selling Video sites?
Post by: velocicarpo on December 28, 2011, 09:17
Hi all,

Since I am getting more and more into Video, maybe the more experienced in this field can recommend me _selling_ video sites. So far I am with:

- Fotolia (low sales)
- Pond5 (very good sales)
- Revostock (every now and then)
- Shutterstock (average)
- Canstock (nothing)

Thanks :-)
Title: Re: Selling Video sites?
Post by: surpasspro on December 28, 2011, 13:56
I think your assessment on the site are about right.  I stopped uploading to istock, since I have issues with their upload process and they took forever to review the clips, so I dropped them.  Clip canvas is another site that I rank with Revostock.  Fotolia, sells my clips way too cheap and I may pull them from there for that reason.  I do like the options of setting my own prices on pond5, but they could stand to be more selective on what they take.

I'm not uploading to anymore sites, since unlike photos, video takes a long time to upload and there is no exif data like photos, so I have to re-enter all my keywords etc.  I'll probably just focus on 2-3 sites for video.
Title: Re: Selling Video sites?
Post by: sharpshot on December 28, 2011, 17:26
Pond5 is way ahead of the other sites for me.  I don't use FT for video, they need to raise their prices and the commission is too low for the time it takes to u.pload.

I like Revostock but sales are infrequent.  SS also has less sales than Pond5 but hopefully they will get serious with video in the future.  Sold a few clips with ClipCanvas and CanStockPhoto.

I gave up on istock, 15% commissions, low sales and a horrible upload procedure took away any reason to use them.

Hopefully alamy will launch their video site soon and 123RF might be worth using.
Title: Re: Selling Video sites?
Post by: rinderart on December 28, 2011, 17:38
Pond5 is way ahead of the other sites for me.  I don't use FT for video, they need to raise their prices and the commission is too low for the time it takes to u.pload.

I like Revostock but sales are infrequent.  SS also has less sales than Pond5 but hopefully they will get serious with video in the future.  Sold a few clips with ClipCanvas and CanStockPhoto.

I gave up on istock, 15% commissions, low sales and a horrible upload procedure took away any reason to use them.

Hopefully alamy will launch their video site soon and 123RF might be worth using.

+1
Title: Re: Selling Video sites?
Post by: velocicarpo on December 29, 2011, 19:10
Thanks for all the responses...I think I`ll add Clipcanvas and then wait how things are going...

I wonder why Dreamstime doesn`t have Video?
Title: Re: Selling Video sites?
Post by: MaZvone on December 30, 2011, 02:48
On which page you have more sales Clipcanvas or Clipdealer ?
Which 5 agencies are the best for selling videos ?
Title: Re: Selling Video sites?
Post by: BlackJack on February 11, 2012, 04:28
I have a small portfolio with mostly nature shots so I`m not a high volume seller. So I have slow sales on low earners like Clipdealer and Clipcanvas but Clipdealer is doing much better for me.
Title: Re: Selling Video sites?
Post by: Chicago on February 14, 2012, 16:18
I've been lurking on various boards, including this one, for ages and it seems that POND5 is the way to go for video.   I haven't done any, and i'm not sure my work will be good enough, but if i do proceed i plan on using them first and foremost.
Title: Re: Selling Video sites?
Post by: cobalt on February 14, 2012, 18:45
My humble results from the first 2 months of video independence (and around 50 videos):

Pond5: 74 dollars, 2 sales

SS: 45 Dollars, 2 sales

istock: 26 dollars, 3 sales

No sales yet on clipdealer or clipcanvas and I havenīt tried other sites yet.

I think video is a slow process but I like being able to set my own prices on Pond5 and clipcanvas. Only the artist knows how much time and work went into a production and this really helps to get your investment back. And a 50% royalty rate allows you to still price your files very competively, so the customer gets a good deal as well.
Title: Re: Selling Video sites?
Post by: cobalt on March 15, 2012, 21:01
I found this thread on pond5 that says that views donīt get counted accurately and it might take months(?) before they register correctly.

I havenīt had any new sales but my files seem to creeping up their best match system. But I have very few views and since I work in a niche this seems to be strange.

Do your files get a lot of views?

https://www.pond5.com/community?forum=715&thread=11131760 (https://www.pond5.com/community?forum=715&thread=11131760)
Title: Re: Selling Video sites?
Post by: travelstock on March 16, 2012, 00:42
At the moment I'm only selling video on Pond5, SS and Istock.

I'm not going to put anything on Fotolia unless they change their policy with subscriptions, and won't bother with sites like Canstock & Revostock. 

For me Pond5 has the best sales so far, but then I've got more videos there than elsewhere. Istock is very limited in what I can upload, so the handful of clips that fit their restrictions are going up there, but so far 3 sales on 2 clips including an EL is pretty good going.

I'm probably going to look at a way of selling clips directly in the next few months once my collection gets big enough to make this worthwhile.
Title: Re: Selling Video sites?
Post by: Stepunk on March 16, 2012, 07:24
I'm not into videos (yet). But have you tried videohive.net? It's part of Evanto marketplaces.
Title: Re: Selling Video sites?
Post by: travelstock on March 16, 2012, 08:25
I'm not into videos (yet). But have you tried videohive.net? It's part of Evanto marketplaces.

Prices are just far too low - the site sets the price, but for whatever reason they seem to think a $1-30 price range is enough for footage. The majority seems to be set at around $5. At these prices video would be selling for far less than my still images, and at much lower volumes - it just doesn't make any sense to upload there.

I guess that's why they have 691 timelapse clips, compared to 32,952 on Pond5.
Title: Re: Selling Video sites?
Post by: stocker2011 on March 16, 2012, 08:26
Fotolia is crap, i do get a fairly regular amount of sales but at the end of the month it always amounts to peanuts because of their subscriptions, low commisions and their customers who always purchase low web or medium size, at least in my experience.
Title: Re: Selling Video sites?
Post by: click_click on March 16, 2012, 08:43
Fotolia is crap, i do get a fairly regular amount of sales but at the end of the month it always amounts to peanuts because of their subscriptions, low commisions and their customers who always purchase low web or medium size, at least in my experience.
You do know that you can disable subscription sales for video?

Go here: https://www.fotolia.com/Member/Modify/Contributor (https://www.fotolia.com/Member/Modify/Contributor)

and disable the check box at the bottom.

 ;)
Title: Re: Selling Video sites?
Post by: stocker2011 on March 16, 2012, 09:22
Yeah, i already opted out a while ago in disgust at the prices but opted back in again because when opted in your port gets shifted to the front of the search engine, i have to grit my teeth and live with it unfortunately.
Title: Re: Selling Video sites?
Post by: tbmpvideo on March 20, 2012, 04:22
Here are my earners in order of sales each month:

Pond5
iStockphoto***
Shutterstock**
Revostock
ClipCanvas*


This of course, all depends on what you are offering, as motion graphics, etc perform differently on different sites - but there seems to be general agreement on these sites. Most of the offbeat sites, Fotolia, ClipDealer, AlwaysHD, earn marginal returns for most submitters and are not worth the time and effort of uploading and tagging.

Pond5 is the vast crowd-sourced flea market of video clips - and apparently the most difficult for the buyer to ply through. I upload everything to Pond5 without restriction. For the novice, it would be the most productive for the initial investment of time.

*ClipCanvas is getting more sales lately, so I have been putting more effort into submitting there. Revostock has ben consistently declining. **Editorial footage (if tagged with the exactlng restrictions / guidelines) on Shutterstock have seen consistent sales. ***Despite all the badmouthing, iStockphoto has been a very strong earner for me. Submission requirements have only gotten more burdensome, but the volume of sales is good.
Title: Re: Selling Video sites?
Post by: cobalt on March 20, 2012, 21:52
Just wanted to share that I sold my first editorial video on SS today. I havenīt uploaded anything new since early February.

So my current results since going independent end of November are: pond5 2 sales 74 dollars, SS 3 sales 54 dollars, istock 4 sales 26 dollars. No saley et on clipcanvas or clipdealer. I still havenīt uploaded to Fotolia.

Iīll shoot more video in the summer and hope to be a regular video producer for simple clips by end of the year.
Title: Re: Selling Video sites?
Post by: Microstock Man on March 21, 2012, 22:41
So can I ask a silly question here - what sort of camera do you really NEED to get clips accepted/selling? Most point and shoots these days have super-slo-mo HD recording and so on at 1080p. Are these sorts of files acceptable? Or is it limited to 3CCD cameras and the high end DSLR's with video capablities?

I know the BEST answer, but I am after the realistic answer - is anyone using these cheapy's and selling?
Title: Re: Selling Video sites?
Post by: sharpshot on March 22, 2012, 02:45
So can I ask a silly question here - what sort of camera do you really NEED to get clips accepted/selling? Most point and shoots these days have super-slo-mo HD recording and so on at 1080p. Are these sorts of files acceptable? Or is it limited to 3CCD cameras and the high end DSLR's with video capablities?

I know the BEST answer, but I am after the realistic answer - is anyone using these cheapy's and selling?
What point and shoot has super-slo-mo HD recording at 1080p?  The ones I have seen cut the resolution right down.

I asked in the Pond5 forum and they told me that compact still cameras use too much compression for video.  My 550D is OK.  The Panasonic micro 4/3 cameras like the GH2 are good.
Title: Re: Selling Video sites?
Post by: cobalt on March 22, 2012, 05:52
I use the Sony Nex5 as my small camera that also makes good videos. But the camera has a very large sensor, same size as my canon600d.

I think anything smaller than that will create too many artifacts.
Title: Re: Selling Video sites?
Post by: sharpshot on March 22, 2012, 06:24
^^^It's not the sensor size.  Some of the expensive professional video cameras have small sensors compared to DSLR's.  1920x1080 isn't a lot of pixels.  It's to do with downsampling, bit rate and codecs.  It's still a foreign language to me but that's what I've read on the video site forums.
Title: Re: Selling Video sites?
Post by: cobalt on March 22, 2012, 06:38
Thanks, I really donīt know much about the technical side of video.
Title: Re: Selling Video sites?
Post by: cascoly on March 22, 2012, 12:58
So can I ask a silly question here - what sort of camera do you really NEED to get clips accepted/selling? Most point and shoots these days have super-slo-mo HD recording and so on at 1080p. Are these sorts of files acceptable? Or is it limited to 3CCD cameras and the high end DSLR's with video capablities?

I know the BEST answer, but I am after the realistic answer - is anyone using these cheapy's and selling?


i use an sony HSX-1  http://cascoly.hubpages.com/hub/Sonys-Cyber-shot-DSC-HX1 (http://cascoly.hubpages.com/hub/Sonys-Cyber-shot-DSC-HX1)

accepted by all sites i've submitted to, inc SS, never a question about video quality  - many clips handheld.

it's a great little camera [for all sites except alamy which somehow has a silly prejudice against samll cameras [rather than looking at actual results] and it's Biggest feature is a can easily carry it while skiing, etc, so i get the shots i would miss if it were in my backpack
Title: Re: Selling Video sites?
Post by: djpadavona on March 27, 2012, 17:31
I wonder why Dreamstime doesn`t have Video?

There was an interview about a year or so ago where Serban said Dreamstime would definitely be offering video in the near future. I hope they move soon while the marketplace is still open for competition.
Title: Re: Selling Video sites?
Post by: Microstock Man on March 28, 2012, 19:18
Thanks for the feedback guys, much appreciated. :)
Title: Re: Selling Video sites?
Post by: MaZvone on March 29, 2012, 06:28
I have "problem" with Pond5. I am on Pond5 about a year and i have 200 videos in my portfolio but only 7 views without any sales. Is that normal on this agencies?
Title: Re: Selling Video sites?
Post by: Stepunk on March 29, 2012, 06:30
I have "problem" with Pond5. I am on Pond5 about a year and i have 200 videos in my portfolio but only 7 views without any sales. Is that normal on this agencies?

I just submitted my first 2 videos to Pont5 and I'm waiting for the review :) But I think that it depends on the type of videos. Can you link us your portfolio?
Title: Re: Selling Video sites?
Post by: cobalt on March 29, 2012, 07:47
I think there is something wrong with the view counter on pond5. There is thread about it somewhere on their forum.
Title: Re: Selling Video sites?
Post by: MaZvone on March 29, 2012, 08:06
My portfolio,
 http://www.pond5.com/video-sound-effects-music-after-effects-photos-illustrations/1/artist:MaZvone.html (http://www.pond5.com/video-sound-effects-music-after-effects-photos-illustrations/1/artist:MaZvone.html)
Title: Re: Selling Video sites?
Post by: sharpshot on March 29, 2012, 08:41
I have "problem" with Pond5. I am on Pond5 about a year and i have 200 videos in my portfolio but only 7 views without any sales. Is that normal on this agencies?
I was selling around 1 a month by the time I had 200 clips.  It has slowed down a bit the last few months, probably because they have been swamped with new clips.  It's the same as the stills sites, as competition increases and there's a lot of supply, it's harder to sell.