Author Topic: So, how much money Craig Lillard / Revostock owe you? Let's sum up the total. (Read 39644 times)

KB · « **Reply #50 on:** February 22, 2016, 11:45 »

$130.50

But you can't squeeze blood out of a turnip (what a stupid saying).

increasingdifficulty · « **Reply #51 on:** February 22, 2016, 11:59 »

About $1300. I see I was already added to the list.

KnowYourOnions · « **Reply #52 on:** February 22, 2016, 13:27 »

UPDATED! - Total $57310.50 between 42 contributors!

ammit 170
att 700
BlackJack 140
celalbulus 427
cg3dphoto 550
CreativeMedias 12000
danilo.afx 300
donvladone 4000
dubassy 200
eburlingham 1000
emblem 110
Enchanted Studios 2000
fluxvfx 4400
fotorob 1000
goseeit 103
helloitsme 500
hkmedia 300
increasingdifficulty 1300
jamesbenet 400
KB 130.50
kunilanskap 130
LP Productions 120
Mantis 80
MartinD 300
masterpiece_dt 750
MaZvone 47
milemobile 48
nopow 8000
Paha_L 6000
refresh 2346
Ronib 14
ruchos 155
s9motion 6000
selensergen 108
Sjo 100
Stock_Pro 70
stocker2011 120
stockmn 900
Suliman Razvan 300
surpasspro 350
Trek 112
zoommer 1530

cathyslife · « **Reply #53 on:** February 22, 2016, 14:33 »

Quote

But you can't squeeze blood out of a turnip (what a stupid saying).

There is almost always more blood to be squeezed out of turnips, it's just that the turnips have legally found a way to make it untouchable by separating business finances from personal finances. Companies can file for bankruptcy, yet the principals can still live the life of luxury. I would be very surprised if turnips sold their second home, or cars, or whatever, to pay back the people they have fleeced.

Microstockphoto · « **Reply #54 on:** February 22, 2016, 15:25 »

isnt 50odd thousand enough to file a class action lawsuit?

KnowYourOnions · « **Reply #55 on:** February 22, 2016, 16:16 »

Quote from: Microstockphoto on February 22, 2016, 15:25

isnt 50odd thousand enough to file a class action lawsuit?

I think presenting the list/this thread to free legal assistance in Dallas (mentioned above) might give some insight how likely/unlikely is to get anything back?

I wonder, is this list completed and accurate?

Pixart · « **Reply #56 on:** February 22, 2016, 16:59 »

Maybe post here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/stockphotogs/

Are there any other groups? I often hear reference to a "German forum" if anyone speaks/knows of it.

(I was not on Revostock)

KB · « **Reply #57 on:** February 22, 2016, 17:20 »

Quote from: KnowYourOnions on February 22, 2016, 16:16

I wonder, is this list completed and accurate?

I would guess it represents just a very small percent of total monies owed to contributors, as surely the majority do not come to MSG. Or am I totally wrong? I guess there's no way to know for sure.

helloitsme · « **Reply #58 on:** February 25, 2016, 23:27 »

Craig, where are you???

increasingdifficulty · « **Reply #59 on:** February 26, 2016, 01:52 »

Quote from: KB on February 22, 2016, 17:20

Quote from: KnowYourOnions on February 22, 2016, 16:16
I wonder, is this list completed and accurate?
I would guess it represents just a very small percent of total monies owed to contributors, as surely the majority do not come to MSG. Or am I totally wrong? I guess there's no way to know for sure.

That is probably very true. I only first found this forum when I was searching for "Revostock payments". I think it's safe to assume that the amount owed is at least $100,000.

Justanotherphotographer · « **Reply #60 on:** February 26, 2016, 01:57 »

This is a real test of how much contributors will take. I mean this company hasn't filed for bankruptcy right? So basically they just chose not to pay contributors and make a run for it. If we take this lying down what's next?

Microstockphoto · « **Reply #61 on:** February 26, 2016, 06:17 »

Quote from: Justanotherphotographer on February 26, 2016, 01:57

This is a real test of how much contributors will take. I mean this company hasn't filed for bankruptcy right? So basically they just chose not to pay contributors and make a run for it. If we take this lying down what's next?

exactly ! i dont understand why people just roll over and take abuse, some guy in that list lost 12k, what! do something about it

KnowYourOnions · « **Reply #62 on:** February 27, 2016, 09:09 »

Quote from: Microstockphoto on February 26, 2016, 06:17

Quote from: Justanotherphotographer on February 26, 2016, 01:57
This is a real test of how much contributors will take. I mean this company hasn't filed for bankruptcy right? So basically they just chose not to pay contributors and make a run for it. If we take this lying down what's next?

exactly ! i dont understand why people just roll over and take abuse, some guy in that list lost 12k, what! do something about it

CreativeMedias ?

ccbcc · « **Reply #63 on:** February 27, 2016, 11:24 »

Can't believe that people are just letting him go. I definitely go after people that owe me money. It's probably that attitude that came across clearly in my email to him, because he did pay me. Granted, the amount was far less than some of the numbers reported here.

Side effect of people doing nothing, he will probably go and scam other people knowing how easy it is to get away with.

cathyslife · « **Reply #64 on:** February 27, 2016, 12:08 »

Quote from: ccbcc on February 27, 2016, 11:24

Can't believe that people are just letting him go. I definitely go after people that owe me money. It's probably that attitude that came across clearly in my email to him, because he did pay me. Granted, the amount was far less than some of the numbers reported here.

Side effect of people doing nothing, he will probably go and scam other people knowing how easy it is to get away with.

How do you know people are letting him go? Maybe the ones who are losing a lot of money are looking into filing a lawsuit, in which case they wouldnt be talking about it in a public forum. And dont forget...$12000 is a heck of a lot of money, but think what a lawsuit might cost. I am certain it isnt a case of people WANTING to let him go, but more a problem of unscrupulous people knowing how they can rip people off and get away with it, because the cost of doing something about it is greater than what is owed. Seems like the best plan with these online companies is to not get in a position where they owe you that much money.

KnowYourOnions · « **Reply #65 on:** February 27, 2016, 12:38 »

Quote from: cathyslife on February 27, 2016, 12:08

Quote from: ccbcc on February 27, 2016, 11:24
Can't believe that people are just letting him go. I definitely go after people that owe me money. It's probably that attitude that came across clearly in my email to him, because he did pay me. Granted, the amount was far less than some of the numbers reported here.

Side effect of people doing nothing, he will probably go and scam other people knowing how easy it is to get away with.

How do you know people are letting him go? Maybe the ones who are losing a lot of money are looking into filing a lawsuit, in which case they wouldnt be talking about it in a public forum. And dont forget...$12000 is a heck of a lot of money, but think what a lawsuit might cost. I am certain it isnt a case of people WANTING to let him go, but more a problem of unscrupulous people knowing how they can rip people off and get away with it, because the cost of doing something about it is greater than what is owed. Seems like the best plan with these online companies is to not get in a position where they owe you that much money.

That's exactly my hope. People who lost the most to lead this action.
Any amount up to 10K can be done via small claim courts, but in Dallas, in person only. $:-\$

ccbcc · « **Reply #66 on:** February 27, 2016, 13:43 »

Quote from: cathyslife on February 27, 2016, 12:08

Quote from: ccbcc on February 27, 2016, 11:24
Can't believe that people are just letting him go. I definitely go after people that owe me money. It's probably that attitude that came across clearly in my email to him, because he did pay me. Granted, the amount was far less than some of the numbers reported here.

Side effect of people doing nothing, he will probably go and scam other people knowing how easy it is to get away with.
How do you know people are letting him go? Maybe the ones who are losing a lot of money are looking into filing a lawsuit, in which case they wouldnt be talking about it in a public forum. And dont forget...$12000 is a heck of a lot of money, but think what a lawsuit might cost. I am certain it isnt a case of people WANTING to let him go, but more a problem of unscrupulous people knowing how they can rip people off and get away with it, because the cost of doing something about it is greater than what is owed. Seems like the best plan with these online companies is to not get in a position where they owe you that much money.

Good points. Having assurance for legal costs is not common in the USA I guess?

Mantis · « **Reply #67 on:** February 27, 2016, 16:08 »

They could get 10-15 contributors to hire one attorney to represent them all. Not a class action....just a share of attorney.

RnR · « **Reply #68 on:** March 05, 2016, 09:48 »

Just to join this list. Craig owes me $690.

KnowYourOnions · « **Reply #69 on:** March 05, 2016, 12:36 »

UPDATED! - Total $58000.50 between 43 contributors!

ammit 170
att 700
BlackJack 140
celalbulus 427
cg3dphoto 550
CreativeMedias 12000
danilo.afx 300
donvladone 4000
dubassy 200
eburlingham 1000
emblem 110
Enchanted Studios 2000
fluxvfx 4400
fotorob 1000
goseeit 103
helloitsme 500
hkmedia 300
increasingdifficulty 1300
jamesbenet 400
KB 130.50
kunilanskap 130
LP Productions 120
Mantis 80
MartinD 300
masterpiece_dt 750
MaZvone 47
milemobile 48
nopow 8000
Paha_L 6000
refresh 2346
RnR 690
Ronib 14
ruchos 155
s9motion 6000
selensergen 108
Sjo 100
Stock_Pro 70
stocker2011 120
stockmn 900
Suliman Razvan 300
surpasspro 350
Trek 112
zoommer 1530

helloitsme · « **Reply #70 on:** March 05, 2016, 20:45 »

Quote from: KnowYourOnions on March 05, 2016, 12:36

UPDATED! - Total $58000.50 between 43 contributors!

ammit 170
att 700
BlackJack 140
celalbulus 427
cg3dphoto 550
CreativeMedias 12000
danilo.afx 300
donvladone 4000
dubassy 200
eburlingham 1000
emblem 110
Enchanted Studios 2000
fluxvfx 4400
fotorob 1000
goseeit 103
helloitsme 500
hkmedia 300
increasingdifficulty 1300
jamesbenet 400
KB 130.50
kunilanskap 130
LP Productions 120
Mantis 80
MartinD 300
masterpiece_dt 750
MaZvone 47
milemobile 48
nopow 8000
Paha_L 6000
refresh 2346
RnR 690
Ronib 14
ruchos 155
s9motion 6000
selensergen 108
Sjo 100
Stock_Pro 70
stocker2011 120
stockmn 900
Suliman Razvan 300
surpasspro 350
Trek 112
zoommer 1530

He spent that money for something else, our money!!!

Mantis · « **Reply #71 on:** March 05, 2016, 23:24 »

He is definitely a ripoff artist. I hope he gets his ass sued and ends up in jail. F k n A-hole.

KnowYourOnions · « **Reply #72 on:** March 06, 2016, 03:38 »

Quote from: Mantis on March 05, 2016, 23:24

He is definitely a ripoff artist. I hope he gets his ass sued and ends up in jail. F k n A-hole.

In our dreams....

Craig has got a new gig called "Do You Love Marketing?"
https://www.linkedin.com/in/craig-lillard-884b3551

Founder
Do You Love Marketing?
February 2016 – Present (2 months)Frisco, TX
Coming from an all-digital business where almost every ounce of traffic came from digital channels, I now get to pour almost 16 years of knowledge into small to medium sized companies who are just trying to keep up with an increasingly complex but ridiculously exciting digital marketing landscape.

I help small and medium sized businesses who are either struggling to quickly adapt to the fast paced changing world of digital marketing, or who simply need "another set of digital eyes" to review their current digital marketing, branding and advertising situation. As a bootstrapper and "lone wolf' entrepreneur, I have "pro" to "expert" level practical experience in almost every sector of digital marketing from pay-per-click to SEO to Facebook ads to web/logo design to coding and beyond.

Today's digital marketing world is ripe with opportunity, but also fraught with complexity. My history with building multi-million dollar companies from the ground up and almost exclusively via digital (internet) channels allows me to pour into and unlock so much potential into those companies that have dipped their toes into digital, but aren't quite sure yet how to swim.

KnowYourOnions · « **Reply #73 on:** March 06, 2016, 03:41 »

https://www.linkedin.com/in/craig-lillard-884b3551

Volunteer Experience & Causes

I primarily volunteer my time leading of a group of amazing high school boys at my church.
Bent Tree Bible Fellowship
August 2011 – Present (4 years 8 months)
I meet weekly with this group of young men, encouraging them and helping them grow in their relationship with *, teaching them to be kind, generous and respectful of others and helping them, along with my co-leaders to become strong solid young men that will set an example and be leaders.

Frisco
12333 Briar Ridge Rd
Frisco, TX 75033
(Newman Elementary School)

Phone: 972-428-1355

Noedelhap · « **Reply #74 on:** March 06, 2016, 08:43 »

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I help small and medium sized businesses who are either struggling to quickly adapt to the fast paced changing world of digital marketing

Help small and medium sized businesses how to rip off others and bankrupt their business, you mean.

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