Author Topic: Video Copilot plugins not to be used in stock (Read 5070 times)

ccbcc · « **on:** March 19, 2016, 11:06 »

So I was looking around the Video Copilot site, great plugins. Sadly the license agreement states that the use of the plugins for stock is forbidden!

This is the EULA (pdf) look for section 4a

And I quote a part of it:

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4. ADDITIONAL LICENSE RESTRICTIONS.
(a) Template/Pre-Render and Stock Media Restrictions. The Software enables You to render and create Your own Works. You cannot pre-render or flatten images created with the Software using Content or other media from any source for use as a template or stock media to offer for sale and/or use to third parties (except as otherwise indicated below). But You can create a project using the Software so long as no Content/media from any source is pre-rendered, and offer or sell those Works to third parties. However, Your offer or sale of Your Works to others cannot include any Content; the purchaser of Your Works must own or acquire a license to such Content by purchasing the appropriate Software.

Other quote:

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In this regard, no Content that You have rendered or any Work that You have created with the Software or media from any source can serve as any sort of stock footage, stock photography or stock media, as animated background or editable media files, or otherwise be offered to the public or compete with the Software or any Video Copilot product, whether offered for free or payment.

So you can use the plugins to sell whatever you create directly to customers. But you cannot render out the effects if you are going to sell that stuff as stock footage.
You can however sell AE project files that use the plugin, without pre-rendering the plugin output. So the buyer of the AE project file has to buy the plugin from Video Copilot.

Mantis · « **Reply #1 on:** March 19, 2016, 11:18 »

There's a couple of plugins out there that are very nice but disallow the resale of output files. I even wrote to one owner asking for permission but never heard anything back.

motionguy · « **Reply #2 on:** March 19, 2016, 11:28 »

Yes, it is sad. I would love to use optical flares and Element 3D for stock videos.

ccbcc · « **Reply #3 on:** March 19, 2016, 11:45 »

Shutterstock doesn't seem too worried about this, some of the stuff even has "video copilot" as a tag. I wonder if this is enforced, or if it will even stay up in court.

ccbcc · « **Reply #4 on:** March 19, 2016, 11:49 »

This thread at shutterstock has some examples, people here seem to think that it's ok to use for footage. Warning, some really ugly examples there, might ruin your good taste! http://forums.submit.shutterstock.com/topic/62042-element-3d-finally/?hl=video+copilot#entry1148714

Also a bit of searching around, and I found a lot of stock that looks like simply rendered out plugin presets...

SpaceStockFootage · « **Reply #5 on:** March 19, 2016, 12:04 »

VideoHive and Optical Flares are to blame. The EULA wasn't as strict when OF first came out, but then every guy and his dog were pre-rendering OF layers for After Effects projects, so VC decided to act. You'd even have item descriptions along the lines of "Don't own Optical Flares? No problem! Pre-rendered versions are included". Great for buyers but not for VC, if everyone is rendering the output from one of their products and selling it on, thus cutting them out of the equation.

I think using Element 3D to render stuff is a bit too strict though. Render VC models, sure, that's understandable. But rendering models that somebody has created themselves or bought elsewhere? Is a bit strict. There's an exciting chat about it here...

http://www.videocopilot.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=123144

ccbcc · « **Reply #6 on:** March 22, 2016, 03:38 »

I understand he doesn't want people to render out presets and make money of those, but to forbid using Element3D to render your own 3D models and textures, that's just harsh. In fact, the more I think about this the more it irritates me.

I love what he does and has done for the VFX and motion graphics community. I've bought every plugin he ever made (not modelpacks), and I'll use them where I see fit.

PinHead · « **Reply #7 on:** March 22, 2016, 04:10 »

It is stupid, why Andrew believes that somebody would buy plugins just to play or learn !?
99% of the buyers buy these plugins to earn money, I'm sure of it.

SpaceStockFootage · « **Reply #8 on:** March 22, 2016, 04:30 »

I can see his point with rendering model packs, and maybe Optical Flares and the like, but with Element 3D in general? It's like not being able to sell a music track if you used a certain instrument to create it, or not being able to sell a painting if you used a certain brand of paints. If Adobe had the same rules, that you couldn't sell anything created in After Effects for stock, then I'd be out of business! If Canon and Nikon had the same rules then stock would cease to exist!

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