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« on: October 17, 2012, 16:25 »
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There has been a lot of talk about photo sales tanking recently and would like to know how the video side is doing for you all.

I have a relatively small cg port and my sales in istock, fotolia and P5 have all been tanking since the summer began and it doesn't look good for October either. So i was wondering how the rest of you are doing.


« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2012, 17:17 »
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I have no hard numbers but my gut says that the footage sales behave similar to the image sales.

Personally images didn't go down much for me (if any at all) but footage certainly didn't improve over the course of this year.

« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2012, 18:03 »
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i get 1-2 footage sales  from pond5 on average; rar sales on SS but had 2 last month - never had a sale from 123, revo, clipcanvas or motionelements

so too few sales to notice any trend

on  images though, this month is already my 4th BME


« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2012, 19:10 »
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My video sales on iStock for Sept and Oct have been good!

« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2012, 20:39 »
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Over the last few months, while my photo sales have been plummeting, my video sales have been well on the up. So they are averaging themselves out. iStock has been especially evident of this.

« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2012, 02:44 »
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I just have a small video portfolio and havent uploaded in a while. But my best sales are from Shutterstock, followed by istock, then pond5 and so far only one sale from fotolia.

SS seems to be going up the most. But with a small part it is hard to tell. I do like the results I am getting it is much better than I thought, because my videos are still very, very simple.

« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2012, 02:59 »
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I have almost 300 clips on line. So far Pond5 is clearly ahead of  Shutterstock (SS better than last year)  ClipCanvas and Revostock low sales, no sales at 123rf yet...
I do not upload to Fotolia because of subs and Istock because of low commissions

Overall slow progression compared to last year

(I use picworkflow to distribute my footages: http://www.picWorkflow.com/?by=207)


« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2012, 03:26 »
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I've gone from averaging 1 sale a month with Pond5 to about 1 every other month.  SS has picked up a little but still lags behind Pond5.  It's hard to sell anything on the other sites.  I also have a small portfolio and haven't uploaded much for a few months now.

KB

« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2012, 22:04 »
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I have 350-400 clips in my port. Sales were steady to slightly increasing (as has the size of my port) until September, when there was a sudden, huge drop off at 2 of the 3 majors (IS and P5). SS was the lone holdout, providing a BME. But even with that, Sep was down about 1/3 from a normal month.

Oct is trending better, but still down from what had been "normal". Too much competition, methinks.

« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2012, 23:34 »
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Things have been slow the last six months with video sales for me....but sales have come back strong in the last five or six weeks. Pond5 and SS the best performers by far.

« Reply #10 on: October 23, 2012, 15:47 »
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It's been about a year since I started selling stock video, and I currently have about 300 clips per site online (IS more recently and fewer clips). Overall here are my approximations of the year to date:

SS: per/mo average: $150 (44% of sales)
IS: per/mo average: $37 (10.5% of sales)
Pond5: per/mo average: $90 (26% of sales)
Revo: per/mo average: $40 (11.5% of sales)

The rest is from a couple other sites that all make less than $10 per/mo each. Broke the $200 per month mark with Shutterstock for the last two months, I've seen a pretty steady rise there.

« Reply #11 on: October 23, 2012, 15:54 »
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Thank you very much for sharing your stats. I just started to upload again, but only have around 40-65 files on the different sites.

But my workflow is improving and I think from now on I will make weekly uploads, just like with photos. Ill share my stats, when I have more info.

I still have absolutely no idea what kind of niche I will specialize in.

« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2012, 08:40 »
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I'm non-exclusive at istockvideo and my sales have dropped to the bottom recently. I used to do really well there a couple of years ago but I'm not holding out much hope anymore. Anyone else a suffering non-exclusive there?

jbarber873

« Reply #13 on: November 19, 2012, 09:07 »
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   Istock has been on a steady decline for me as well. It's true that exclusives get a much higher presence on the first page, but video searches generally return so few pages that I would expect my files to be seen, so I don't think that's the issue. My guess is that the high prices compared to other sites is probably the problem. SS and Pond5 are growing steadily. That and the overall decline at IS probably means a trend downward on sales there will continue. Even with higher prices charged at IS, my earnings of the sale is the lowest of all 3 sites.
   The other problem for me is the extremely long wait for approval, and the random nature of approvals. And the soviet era upload process makes it almost not worth the effort.
   It's a shame, because they had such a head start on video, and such a high reputation that it was their market to lose. And that's what they did.

KB

« Reply #14 on: November 19, 2012, 11:35 »
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Anyone else a suffering non-exclusive there?
I finally had my first sale of the month at iStock last week, and none since.

I've averaged 10 sales / month this year, with the worst month having 6.

So, yeah, definitely a suffering non-exclusive here.

« Reply #15 on: January 06, 2013, 08:39 »
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Here are my current results:

istock 144 dollars, 13 sales, average sales royalty: 11 USD

SS 132 dollars, 8 sales, average royalty: 16.5 USD

pond5 109 dollars, 5 sales, average royalty 22 USD

fotolia 7.35 credits (?), 3 sales, average royalty 2.45

No other sales from other sites. I am submitting to these three and also clipdealer and clipcanvas and am slowly starting to add revostock and 123rf.

What impresses me with pond5 is that you can set your own prices and if the quality is good customers will pay the 80 dollars I am asking for a file.

fotolia and ss have unbelievably fast review systems, fotolia sometimes inspects files in 30 minutes. However they reject a lot, much more than istock and Shutterstock. And the returns so far are very low.

SS has an excellent upload system, very good sales for such a tiny portfolio.

istock has an extremly slow and cumbersome upload sytem. Feels like the stone age. Months of inspection time. Sales should be much higher, considering that I have an active port with customers hitting my portfolio daily.

I have around 40-70 files on the different sites, so I am not uploading enough. But that I get sales at all with such a tiny portfolio is amazing. there must be a real need for video out there. Nobody would notice me if I only had 40 images online.

So I am very optimistic for my video future and also bought some expensive gear on photokina in September.


« Reply #16 on: January 06, 2013, 09:25 »
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Thanks for sharing your results. Your experiences are pretty much the same as my own in dealing with these different agencies. I have also had the 30 minute review time from fotolia which i found amazing but as you quite rightly stated their rejections are strange.

I would also pursue the 123, revo, clipdealer they all bring in an occasional sale from time to time for me and i have a small port of around 170. A year ago i gave up on clipcanvas through lack of sales although as always your own personal experience may be different.

My biggest disappointment for 2012 was P5, they were such a good earner up until summer and then my sales literally went off a cliff. I believe this is because of the global crisis but also their Achilles heel is that they accept almost anything and a lot of contributors take advantage of this and upload a tonne of crap. And also they have recently added photos and 3d models which also is flooding the search IMO.

Anyway, i have lots more ideas for videos in 2013, its just finding the time to make them.

Good luck.

« Reply #17 on: February 02, 2013, 16:50 »
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Here are my results for January:

I earned a total of 118 dollars, Best Month Ever in video.

Pond5: 2 sales, 64 Dollars in total

Shutterstock: 3 sales: 52 Dollars in total

Fotolia: 1 sale 2.60 Dollars

istock: ZERO, not a single sale although I had the free video of the month.

I havent uploaded anything new, will now focus uploading to Shutterstock, Pond5 and Fotolia.

Everywhere else, when I have the time.

« Reply #18 on: February 02, 2013, 17:09 »
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Istock really can't justify the low commissions for video when they sell less than Pond5.  I removed most of my clips when my commission was cut from 20% to 15%.  With their low sales volume, they should be paying 60% but that's never going to happen :)

« Reply #19 on: February 03, 2013, 08:05 »
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Istock video upload is a pain for earning peanuts, 15% commission is insulting, hopefully customers are smart and video selling at Istock are very rare for me last year.
Here is the social and economic model of Istock, fotolia and other greedy agencies like deposit photo and photodune:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stakhanovite_movement
 
About video, I'm earning between 100 and 200$ /month with around 150 video.
Pond 5 is great but sales are lower than shutterstock since 6 months.
Be careful with fotolia, don't forget to uncheck "include video in subscription plan" in your profile to avoid low commissions and to respect the video stock market. If one day Fotolia delete this option, I will delete my video files immediately.

« Reply #20 on: February 05, 2013, 03:28 »
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Video sales on all sites.... Maybe this thread is out of this topic but I see you have experience about video and sales and you can help me. My grandfather was a good amateur filmmaker at the begining of last century. I have more tham one hour of footage showing urban cityscapes and costumary people (apart of glass plates and stereoscopy photos ). Which site do you think is better to offer it? Will be better to offering in a single batch? Thank you for your comments! and good sales!

« Reply #21 on: February 07, 2013, 11:48 »
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several thousand clips spanning three accounts on all the main sites.

Consistently on all three accounts, January on istock was down 50% to 75% from January of last year. And last year was down 25% from two years before that ('10). This is all while continually adding content. They're dying and good riddance. I've been disgusted with them from the beginning. They did this to themselves.

Overall, though, my sales are still up for the year. Revostock sales keep growing. They're my favorite site - they do everything right. My AE templates do well there too.

Pond5 is the number-one earner, followed by shutter, then revo, then istock, clipcanvas, fotolia, and clipdealer.

tbmpvideo

« Reply #22 on: February 16, 2013, 00:37 »
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I've been doing very well on the video side, which I detail on my blog at, the www.stockvideoseller.com. The continious sellers are listed in income order: Pond5, Shutterstock, iStockphoto, ClipCanvas and coming up a poor last is Revostock. Revostock has taken a long dive over the last few years. I attribute this to their attempt to focus in the market as a AE and graphics house, probably a good choice. I don't sell that, so the big drop makes sense. I probably will cease submitting there in the near future, as the results are so poor relative to the effort. The big change has been the rise of ClipCanvas in sales. There as been a lot of improvement in the site - it has always incredible ease of submission - which is what intially attracted me. Since last year lots of backend improvements in repricing, adding boxes for titles and descriptions, etc. They ALWAYS answer my email, very unusual and impressive. Sales are up there.

Interesting to note, from some of the other threads similar to this topic, some sellers having marginal success at Fotolia and ClipDealer - although the numbers each month see very close to the minimum payout.
« Last Edit: February 16, 2013, 00:57 by tbmpvideo »

« Reply #23 on: February 28, 2013, 13:29 »
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What I'm seeing is promising or at least hopeful returns from SS and P5 and even the occasional sale from iS for videos but Revostock has left the building. I haven't had a sale there for 2 months. That's pretty darn bad when compared to other sites. Actually it's pathetic.

« Reply #24 on: February 28, 2013, 15:06 »
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The continious sellers are listed in income order: Pond5, Shutterstock, iStockphoto, ClipCanvas and coming up a poor last is Revostock.

You're going to have to explain how in earth you're doing so well with Pond5....20 clips since mid October and not even a view!! let alone a sale!! My best is SS followed by IStock. Pond5 is a total waste of time as far as I'm concerned. Good for you but its beyond me how P5 could be a best seller. No audience. No sales.


 

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