Author Topic: Return per clip (RPC) for footage submitters? (Read 8863 times)

spike · « **on:** May 12, 2015, 14:17 »

Hi all,

I'm wondering what is your RPC at SS/P5/VideoBlocks.

(quick reminder: RPC is [monthly earnings]/[number of clips online].. and please, let's not discuss how "informative" this value is)

I'd share my number first, but as I have just started with 4k timelapses, my RPC is actually 0. So, maybe to gauge some averages, to see which range of values one can expect.

Mantis · « **Reply #1 on:** May 12, 2015, 18:49 »

very little. Pennies. You don't get downloads like photos so if you take income divided by # clips online its horribly small.

Holmes · « **Reply #2 on:** May 12, 2015, 20:49 »

i have almost 200 clips on pond5, dissolve, and ss and they are shot well with high end SONY and Canon 5dM2. Did a big series for tennis with models, ocean in the background , back lighting, reflectors, slow motion. etc... good stuff.

and there is other stuff shot well...ya know not just amateur stuff

i sell one or two every few months. $:-\$

but I enjoy video and will stay with it, perhaps the ROI will pay off some day but all the hype about VIDEO is the next big thing does not appear to be true.

fmarsicano · « **Reply #3 on:** May 13, 2015, 02:37 »

Video id for me tue next big thing, I have online 1600 clips and I make about 4k a month consider though that 8 months ago I was earning 700$ and I had already 900 clips so as you see it si really amazing how video can really become the big thing very quickly

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fmarsicano · « **Reply #4 on:** May 13, 2015, 02:40 »

PS my only real big earner are SS and Pond5 just started with Dissolve I am very positive about Dissolve I am sure they will become very big

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alijaber · « **Reply #5 on:** May 13, 2015, 03:57 »

I have around 1200 clips on SS and p5, my sales ranges between 300 - 600$, but I'm relatively new to microstock (6 months only). I'm trying Fotolia and Videoblocks this month: no sales so far. Videoblocks review time is very long ( maybe they were not ready for huge numbers of submissions).

shudderstok · « **Reply #6 on:** May 13, 2015, 09:30 »

As with images, I think it totally depends on what you shoot. One person on one site exclusive with 2000 images/clips combined can make a full time living and the other person with 8000 images/clips spread across every site conceivable will struggle. There is no magic formula.

pkphotos · « **Reply #7 on:** May 13, 2015, 09:55 »

Quote from: fmarsicano on May 13, 2015, 02:37

Video id for me tue next big thing, I have online 1600 clips and I make about 4k a month consider though that 8 months ago I was earning 700$ and I had already 900 clips so as you see it si really amazing how video can really become the big thing very quickly

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Can you put a link to your portfolio please

shudderstok · « **Reply #8 on:** May 13, 2015, 09:57 »

Quote from: pkphotos on May 13, 2015, 09:55

Quote from: fmarsicano on May 13, 2015, 02:37
Video id for me tue next big thing, I have online 1600 clips and I make about 4k a month consider though that 8 months ago I was earning 700$ and I had already 900 clips so as you see it si really amazing how video can really become the big thing very quickly

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Can you put a link to your portfolio please

... so that i can copy it and plagiarize it... please.

pkphotos · « **Reply #9 on:** May 13, 2015, 11:20 »

Quote from: shudderstok on May 13, 2015, 09:57

Quote from: pkphotos on May 13, 2015, 09:55
Quote from: fmarsicano on May 13, 2015, 02:37
Video id for me tue next big thing, I have online 1600 clips and I make about 4k a month consider though that 8 months ago I was earning 700$ and I had already 900 clips so as you see it si really amazing how video can really become the big thing very quickly

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Can you put a link to your portfolio please

... so that i can copy it and plagiarize it... please.

Worth a shot. If those stats are legit it would be in the top 1% of portfolios performance wise

luissantos84 · « **Reply #10 on:** May 13, 2015, 11:49 »

have you ever heard of google? only took me 5 seconds to find out!

tickstock · « **Reply #11 on:** May 13, 2015, 13:29 »

Quote from: shudderstok on May 13, 2015, 09:57

Quote from: pkphotos on May 13, 2015, 09:55
Quote from: fmarsicano on May 13, 2015, 02:37
Video id for me tue next big thing, I have online 1600 clips and I make about 4k a month consider though that 8 months ago I was earning 700$ and I had already 900 clips so as you see it si really amazing how video can really become the big thing very quickly

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Can you put a link to your portfolio please

... so that i can copy it and plagiarize it... please.

And this is why anyone who wants to continue to make a living should be anonymous. It'll be interesting to see if that $4,000 per month income is still there in 6 months.

gcrook · « **Reply #12 on:** May 13, 2015, 14:15 »

Why do you guys seem to think that a footage portfolio can be copied so easily to the point that the sales can be overturned to ones favour?

If you believe that it's almost the same as admitting that there is no differentiation at all,everything is a gimmick,everyone can do the same stuff and shoot the same way as someone else,
everyone has the same access to everything including weather,place,time,gear,talent,and finally sales are just random.

Like If someone came across your stuff and was bored to look any further he would buy it because it's the same as the next one so why bother wasting time?
I can see that applying to photos a bit more but even then not all tomatoes on white sell the same even with the exact same keywords.
Not to mention video where the are a lot more variables.A whole lot more.

fotoVoyager · « **Reply #13 on:** May 13, 2015, 15:16 »

There's no secret - I'm guessing it'll be the same for video as with photos. Well shot, on trend lifestyle shots that are model released is where the money is.

cobalt · « **Reply #14 on:** May 13, 2015, 15:29 »

Quote from: gcrook on May 13, 2015, 14:15

Why do you guys seem to think that a footage portfolio can be copied so easily to the point that the sales can be overturned to ones favour?

The sheer volume of copy cat files can completely bury your files in the search results, even if your work is still better quality.

At the moment, there are very, very few videos, it is like with photos in 2004, but once the agencies have 30 million videos and accept 100 000 new clips every week, you will understand the problem of copying and feel the pain and financial loss.

This is why I personally prefer a general "most popular" search results over real download numbers, because it leads people directly to how much money is in that theme. A file can be "most popular" with 2 downloads or with 500, the number gives a clear indication what the copy cat should invest their time and money in.

I agree that with video you need more variety of a scene, but you will feel the pain from copying, it is inevitable.

But like you pointed out, the more unique your themes are, if you have access to special locations, are a medical doctor or can film open heart surgery, you will have less competition.

Mantis · « **Reply #15 on:** May 13, 2015, 16:56 »

Quote from: fotoVoyager on May 13, 2015, 15:16

There's no secret - I'm guessing it'll be the same for video as with photos. Well shot, on trend lifestyle shots that are model released is where the money is.

That's exactly right. But in a broader context, video will end up just like photos in terms of the crowd sourcing....commissions will be squashed as soon as the agencies have your balls in a vice.....so much inventory that it doesn't matter if one pulls his/her port. IS is already doing it. 123 is already doing it. Bigstockphoto is becoming a model for it.

Holmes · « **Reply #16 on:** May 13, 2015, 17:09 »

i feel that a real advantage to your clips is if you use a crane or slider. dunno how many really invest in all that. i know i should, maybe someday

gcrook · « **Reply #17 on:** May 13, 2015, 18:03 »

Quote from: cobalt on May 13, 2015, 15:29

Quote from: gcrook on May 13, 2015, 14:15
Why do you guys seem to think that a footage portfolio can be copied so easily to the point that the sales can be overturned to ones favour?

The sheer volume of copy cat files can completely bury your files in the search results, even if your work is still better quality.

At the moment, there are very, very few videos, it is like with photos in 2004, but once the agencies have 30 million videos and accept 100 000 new clips every week, you will understand the problem of copying and feel the pain and financial loss.

This is why I personally prefer a general "most popular" search results over real download numbers, because it leads people directly to how much money is in that theme. A file can be "most popular" with 2 downloads or with 500, the number gives a clear indication what the copy cat should invest their time and money in.

I agree that with video you need more variety of a scene, but you will feel the pain from copying, it is inevitable.

But like you pointed out, the more unique your themes are, if you have access to special locations, are a medical doctor or can film open heart surgery, you will have less competition.

I understand what you are saying and i dont necessarily disagree,but then again its the same as admitting that everyone is more or less "copying" everyone else which is somewhat true in the sense that i dont imagine anyone living in a cabin and then going out to shoot whatever . he feels like shooting and then uploading without paying attention to the clips circulating around.

Anyway let me give you an example.I have watched over the years a few shots i like.
Actually a lot.
Do you know how many of them did i want to "recreate" ?
Many.
Do you know how many of them did i have the means to recreate?
Very few.
Do you know how many of these few did i find the time to do?
Even less than those few.
Do you know how many came close to the ones i wanted to imitate?
None at all.

pkphotos · « **Reply #18 on:** May 13, 2015, 21:07 »

Quote from: tickstock on May 13, 2015, 13:29

Quote from: shudderstok on May 13, 2015, 09:57
Quote from: pkphotos on May 13, 2015, 09:55
Quote from: fmarsicano on May 13, 2015, 02:37
Video id for me tue next big thing, I have online 1600 clips and I make about 4k a month consider though that 8 months ago I was earning 700$ and I had already 900 clips so as you see it si really amazing how video can really become the big thing very quickly

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Can you put a link to your portfolio please

... so that i can copy it and plagiarize it... please.
And this is why anyone who wants to continue to make a living should be anonymous. It'll be interesting to see if that $4,000 per month income is still there in 6 months.

Exactly right. Why any successful photographer/videographer would want to broadcast their success/earning is beyond me since it can be very misleading but at the same time attracts additional competition when there is plenty already. Better to stay under the radar on some issues

fmarsicano · « **Reply #19 on:** May 14, 2015, 01:36 »

I can tell you why my clips sell: good realistic acting, this is a skill difficult to copy it is not a tomato or apple and most of all every person is different so you will never be able to copy how a person looks or shows an emotion.I just know that is hard work.Another suggestion is to work very hard on your color correction and make it look unique.I truly wish good luck to everyone

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fmarsicano · « **Reply #20 on:** May 14, 2015, 02:02 »

To do what I do you do have to invest a lot of money in equipment,studio,lighting,models so I guess it will be anyway difficult in the future that there are so many people that will invest so much money.I really am not scared of competition.If you do quality work you will sell.If you believe in what you do you will sell.If you work truly hard you will sell and succeed

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