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Author Topic: Best (most fair) site for citizen journalism  (Read 19960 times)

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« on: June 26, 2009, 02:33 »
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When trying to sell photos from a isolated event - microstock simply isn't the best way.  The images are worth more than micro prices - the sales are going to be so few than the low price of the micros just can't be justified.

Other options:  Alamy is a great site, but it isn't really a journalism site for breaking news.  For general editorial it is good, but for images that you want the media to see today, it just doesn't work.

I just read about a site call Demotix (which prompted me to start this thread).  Has anyone used it?  Does anyone have a better suggestion?


« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2009, 03:03 »
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The are paying UK12 pounds? I ask $400 minimum from the press for my stuff.

« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2009, 11:32 »
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The are paying UK12 pounds? I ask $400 minimum from the press for my stuff.

They pay if they sell. It occures not very often, but they are in the very beginning. I believe they have a good chance.
Above it, they often buy images for their own widget advertising - 12,5 GBp each. It's very close to Alamy for the same Web use.

« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2009, 19:46 »
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Is there a review process on this site? I'm rather curious if there are any other similar sites, because microstock is definitely not the best of places to sell editorial photographs.

« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2009, 21:31 »
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http://www.nowpublic.com/ seems to be gaining ground, but is not paying in general I think.

RacePhoto

« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2009, 23:14 »
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The Basics

    * You may submit accurate and genuine news stories as long as they are your original work, you have the right to market / sell them and they do not break any law. If there is a problem with the image, its your responsibility.
    * At all times you own the copyright. You give Demotix the right to market and license your contributions for use. In exchange, Demotix will split any licensing fee obtained with you on a 50:50 basis.
    * You retain the rights to remove your images from the Demotix collections. Just let us know that you want to make a change, and well remove the image from our Website.
    * Always get the permission of an appropriate adult before photographing a child. Should you try to obtain a model / property release for your imagery, it stands a greater chance of being licensed and may achieve a larger licensing fee than non-released photographs.
    * Demotix can attempt to sell your images on an exclusive or non-exclusive basis. The choice is yours. Demotix markets images both on and offline, as well as to publishing houses and picture resellers.
    * You are responsible for keeping the details of your user account safe. Whilst well do all we can to help you, Demotix is in no way responsible for any loss or damage resulting from the misuse of your user account.

50% of what? They don't really make this clear. The 12 pounds is if you have a feature photo, not for a sale. (if I read it right)

They aren't very clear about the payments and fees.

« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2009, 12:00 »
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50% of what? They don't really make this clear. The 12 pounds is if you have a feature photo, not for a sale. (if I read it right)

They aren't very clear about the payments and fees.


"In number terms, that means your non-exclusive images will sell for anywhere between $150 - 3,000; and your videos will sell for $500-1,000 / minute. Exclusives? The sky is the limit."

http://www.demotix.com/page/about-us
Open up the section "What you get".

RacePhoto

« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2009, 02:20 »
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Interesting site, they talk a big game, but anyone can start a fancy website. Any Feature or Editorial sales there? If they can get customers to look on their site for images, it would make sense. Nice little news stories with photos.

Loved the one about illegally parked taxis from Hyderabad. Looks like someone posted it to complain. Of course I was searching for "auto racing" and this one is #5 match.  http://www.demotix.com/news/auto-rickshaws-parked-no-parking-zone-hyderabad   ;D

Here's the Wiki report. $50 and up for photos. Sounds reasonable. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demotix

Growing site.
« Last Edit: July 29, 2009, 02:32 by RacePhoto »

« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2009, 12:59 »
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Put my second story on today. One of the images was selected for their widget, (edit: link removed. 2 years on never got a sale on this site and didn't continue to upload. Plus their watermarks are almost non-existent if you have images which are not so dark, I emailed them about this, they never replied.) 

Ok it's not a sale, but it's still something.

"Each week the Demotix Team licenses 20 images which appear in the Demotix Widget. Each time one of your pictures is used in the Widget, you get paid 12.50 and get a badge on your profile. Images on the Widget are displayed for 1-4 days."
« Last Edit: October 01, 2011, 01:20 by Microstock Posts »

RacePhoto

« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2009, 18:24 »
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From the blog, as I return to visit Demotix:

We are looking for an Editorial Sales Director to help lead Demotix into its next phase.

The perfect candidate will be extremely dynamic, imaginative, enthusiastic and driven, with experience in the editorial sector, looking for the challenge of a lifetime with an award-winning and paradigm-changing team based in London.


Still growing and changing, the site looks to have some potential. I'm not sure it matches with what I do, since I avoid politics, but for the Citizen Journalist as they are directing their energy, it's possible to have a news story (real news, not illegal cab parking) get picked up by some major agencies. As we can guess from the above, they are adding someone to manage editorial sales, which would indicate that the area wasn't fully staffed in the beginning.

Growth is a good sign, unlike the new Micro sites we've seen rolled out, which slowly dwindle as the base funding is consumed. Then the support evaporates, prior to a slow painful closing. This one is on the way up.


« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2009, 21:26 »
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The are paying UK12 pounds? I ask $400 minimum from the press for my stuff.

Where do you sell it ???

Kone

« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2009, 23:55 »
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Just registerd.

Do they have a forum, i cant find it?

« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2010, 22:01 »
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I registered. Asked many questions about format, etc. No response. Uploaded topical editorial footage which sells on POND5, Shutterstock, Revostock... no views and no sales. I am not convinced this is a functional site in any way. I may be wrong.


 

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