Author Topic: Graphic Leftovers has new Look (Read 17875 times)

lagereek · « **Reply #25 on:** January 29, 2012, 02:53 »

Quote from: lisafx on January 28, 2012, 18:16

Quote from: stormchaser on January 28, 2012, 04:02
Ok so now they've done it (offered tiered pricing) and you're still not happy. You can keep slumming on photogloom or grovel for 12 cents on istock. It's all your choice. In my opinion the sizing will attract a new buyer demographic, and you have to give the new model more than 3 days before you go stamping your feet and crying Woe Is Me.

Sorry, I have no idea what you mean or to whom this is directed. You must be reading a different thread than I am.

If you are going to come in here and start hurling insults, you should be clearer about who you are insulting, and exactly what has you so worked up....

Yep, another know-it-all.

stormchaser · « **Reply #26 on:** January 29, 2012, 04:54 »

Well don't even know why I posted here anyway as I only submit to 2 places these days and have pastures much greener than micro. Here's a company trying to gain business. You (ok, one selected commenter) asked for Sml, Med, Lg pricing, and then are PO'd when you get it. I'm not the one who has my knickers in a twist here. But you really need to give a new model a chance, and 3 or 4 days is not an acceptable trial.

Have they cut commissions yet? Have they gone to subs? Are they putting you in canisters and then them taking them away? Have they become involved in shady partner programs where your work becomes diluted and stuff lands everywhere on the web? Sorry I quit the microstock slumlords for all of these reasons.
Here is a company trying to attract a different buyer demographic. That's all. And if people don't need a 5200 pic long side image, they're simply not going to buy it.

Reference thread regarding confusion about partner programs:

http://www.microstockgroup.com/general-stock-discussion/gograph-com-stolen-images/msg241153/?topicseen#new

And just an info side note for Lisa - awhile back I found an Asian blog who was blogging all of your images off DT and others. The site was simply throwing the bait out for buyer referrals. From what I could find he wasn't even a submitter anywhere. Not only your stuff, some others here too. And if I ever run across it again I will post it. But for all I know, it could have been a "partner site." But it just looked like blogging for pocket change to me.

stockastic · « **Reply #27 on:** January 29, 2012, 11:31 »

stormchaser, yes I did get your point(s). And yes GL seems to be trying to do many of the right things, and not the wrong things - of which I suspect the "shady partner programs" will prove to be the worst in the long run.

GL started out with no "people" shots at all. That sounded great to me, because I don't do people, mostly uncommon objects and things that take a little work to set up. And buyers would be looking specifically for my subjects and be happy to pay a few bucks. GL put about 1/3 of my photos in their featured collection. It seemed like a good match.

Now both the unique focus and the higher prices seem to be going away. I just feel like these agencies aren't succeeding in differentiating themselves and are converging on the same model - with a price point just below where a lot of us say "forget it".

IMHO we shouldn't be putting our photos on numerous sites just because it's easy to do so. Many seem to be now "partnering" like mad with anyone willing to pay an up-front fee, and we'll inevitably lose control of our work as it's passed down this food chain, where each level is shakier, less ethical and less accountable than the preceding one.

michaeldb · « **Reply #28 on:** January 30, 2012, 13:53 »

It is difficult or impossible to predict what will really work when selling things to people. I have just been reading The Lean Startup, which really makes that point.

So far it looks like GL's changes are working for me, at least. I have 10 dls there today so far, my BDE.

lisafx · « **Reply #29 on:** January 30, 2012, 16:13 »

Quote from: stormchaser on January 29, 2012, 04:54

And just an info side note for Lisa - awhile back I found an Asian blog who was blogging all of your images off DT and others. The site was simply throwing the bait out for buyer referrals. From what I could find he wasn't even a submitter anywhere. Not only your stuff, some others here too. And if I ever run across it again I will post it. But for all I know, it could have been a "partner site." But it just looked like blogging for pocket change to me.

Thanks for the info. If you happen to run across something like that again and feel like sending me a PM I will check into it.

Great points above Stocktastic, about the confusing layers on partners, etc. making it harder to keep track of our work.

ETA: Maybe I am less than enthusiastic about this change because, unlike Michaeldb, I am not seeing any increase in volume to compensate the lower prices.

luissantos84 · « **Reply #30 on:** January 30, 2012, 16:47 »

I don´t think it is a "bad" idea from GLO (actually I enjoy it) but I do think that they can have an opt in/out regarding the pricing (sizes)

it would make a buyer just a little confused perhaps but nothing compare to collections at iStock

I am sure GLO will hear this suggestion

lirch · « **Reply #31 on:** March 01, 2012, 15:15 »

I think it's safe to say that Graphic Leftovers has earned his place in the middle tier, considering that they have accomplished so much in such a short period of time.

michaeldb · « **Reply #32 on:** March 01, 2012, 20:53 »

Quote from: lirch on March 01, 2012, 15:15

I think it's safe to say that Graphic Leftovers has earned his place in the middle tier, considering that they have accomplished so much in such a short period of time.

I agree. In my tiers, GL is pretty high up, and way ahead of Deposit Photos, and Panthermedia.

Metsafile · « **Reply #33 on:** March 02, 2012, 00:46 »

Quote from: lirch on March 01, 2012, 15:15

I think it's safe to say that Graphic Leftovers has earned his place in the middle tier, considering that they have accomplished so much in such a short period of time.

They have successfully produced an improved site but the low tier is where they belong.