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lisafx

« on: June 12, 2013, 19:32 »
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I read the thread about how GL was going to be laying off some inspectors and other personnel on June 1st.  Not sure why that would have affected sales though? ??? 

Normally I average 15-20 sales/month there (including May), and here it is almost mid month and zero, zip, nada. 

Anybody getting sales at GL? 


dbvirago

« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2013, 19:46 »
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It's one of 6-8 sites I tried at the start of the year. After 5 months, I dropped them all. None sustained the effort. GL was the only one with 0 sales.

« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2013, 19:49 »
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At first, I made a few sales.  Then they started getting known, and liked, and all you big fish jumped in with your thousands of images, and I got swamped.   Then Google apparently changed something and their sales went way down.  So now I get nothing.   But "hope springs eternal in the human breast" (Alexander Pope).     They seem to know what they're doing, and whatever Google did, Google can un-do at some point.

« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2013, 19:54 »
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my average is holding up nicely (2 so far)

« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2013, 19:55 »
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It's been a little slower this year, but this month seems strong.

« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2013, 21:38 »
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Had been getting one or two steady each month but the last few months were zero. Today I logged in to see a sale paying out $44.20. I'd like to see that continue!

« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2013, 02:44 »
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I read the thread about how GL was going to be laying off some inspectors and other personnel on June 1st.  Not sure why that would have affected sales though? ??? 

Normally I average 15-20 sales/month there (including May), and here it is almost mid month and zero, zip, nada. 

Anybody getting sales at GL?
Wow, I'm outselling you on a site, I've sold 1 :)  Not surprising that were getting a sales drop.  Remember all those exclusives asking where they should upload their portfolios?  I'm sure were seeing a lot of sales dilution and they didn't have big sales volume in the first place.  Hopefully they can do some marketing now and get enough new buyers to keep us all happy.  That's going to be tough but surely one day a site is going to threaten the big 4?  Such a shame that buyers keep using sites that have cut our commissions so much it hurts.  I hope the message gets out that lots of us wont carry on supplying microstock sites if we can't make money doing it.  We desperately need one of the sites that has a better commission for contributors to become a real competitor.  Pond5 have done it with footage, paying 50% commission, so there's no reason why a stills site can't do it.

« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2013, 04:04 »
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I've only had 2 sales so far this month which has happened before.  In the last year I have had 2 months where I made over 40$ but several months where I made between 3 and 10$.  I find sales there a lot more random than most sites.

Ron

« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2013, 04:54 »
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Its never unanimous is it?  ;)

Sorry to hear your sales dropped Lisa. Hard to believe with such a portfolio.

I had one sale since I started contributing in February. Not sure if its worth to pursue uploading there.

« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2013, 05:07 »
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How do you do at Cutcaster Lisa?  I didn't get a single sale last month.  That's the first time that has happened at any site that I upload to.  I've had 2 so far this month.  I only bother because it is so easy to upload to and I live in hope that one day if it changes I will at least have my port up there.   I dropped zoonar and Panthermedia because it was too much effort for such little returns.

« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2013, 05:47 »
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I had nothing with Zoonar for over a year, then I sold one for 30 last month.  Mostphotos was similar, I had nothing for about a year but they're selling something every month now.  That's why I don't like removing my portfolio unless a site really does something I don't like.

« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2013, 05:49 »
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I've never removed my port from anywhere but just give up on uploading if the work is more than the gain.

« Reply #12 on: June 13, 2013, 07:05 »
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Usually get 2-3 a month, nothing this month so far.  I so want to support these sites (GL & P5) but I fear that if they really want to compete in the world of stills that they will ultimately have to introduce a subs package:'(  Like many have stated, perpetual motion is hard to stop when it comes to uploading to sub sites, me included.  I went to GL to support them but am to chicken to remove my stuff from other sub sites since I have a "reorganized out of a job" spouse and a long distance marriage (two sets of bills).  But man, is the sub model sustainable? I applaud GL for making that move and hope they figure out how to overcome their business obstacles.  I will continue to upload there.

« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2013, 09:41 »
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I've never removed my port from anywhere but just give up on uploading if the work is more than the gain.

That's my strategy as well - that way if a site turns around you are ready to go.

I started uploading to GL earlier this year after reading about them in these forums so only have a few hundred online.  Had one DL for $1 so I got 52 cents.  Love the commission rate, just wish there were more of them.  With uploading just ftp and forget I will keep them on the list for new images but won't bother uploading any more old images unless sales improve.

lisafx

« Reply #14 on: June 13, 2013, 12:17 »
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How do you do at Cutcaster Lisa?  I didn't get a single sale last month.  That's the first time that has happened at any site that I upload to.  I've had 2 so far this month.  I only bother because it is so easy to upload to and I live in hope that one day if it changes I will at least have my port up there.   I dropped zoonar and Panthermedia because it was too much effort for such little returns.

I'm not on Cutcaster, Zoonar or Panthermedia, so I can't speak to those. 

What's weird about GL for me is that even since the Google changes, my sales at GL were holding up relatively well.  Never had a 0 DL week (much less two) since I joined a couple of years ago. 

At least some are seeing sales, so it isn't totally dead.  Either I got slammed by a search change, or it must be a lot of competing lifestyle stuff was added recently. 

lisafx

« Reply #15 on: June 13, 2013, 12:20 »
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Wow, I'm outselling you on a site, I've sold 1 :)  Not surprising that were getting a sales drop.  Remember all those exclusives asking where they should upload their portfolios?  I'm sure were seeing a lot of sales dilution and they didn't have big sales volume in the first place. 

I think you are right^^.  And congrats on the sale ;D

« Reply #16 on: June 13, 2013, 14:31 »
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I'm not on Cutcaster, Zoonar or Panthermedia, so I can't speak to those. 

OK thanks

EmberMike

« Reply #17 on: June 13, 2013, 14:38 »
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My sales at GL are dismal at best lately. My earnings for June so far are super low.

Not that it's entirely unusual for me with GL to see that declining line on the graph, but this month is especially bad.

« Reply #18 on: June 13, 2013, 22:04 »
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« Last Edit: May 12, 2014, 13:11 by Audi 5000 »

« Reply #19 on: June 13, 2013, 22:09 »
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Is it really worth your time for only 15 sales a month?

1 - 15 sales can mean 50$ (they pay 52%)
2 - its just upload, not a single click after

« Reply #20 on: June 13, 2013, 22:38 »
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I wouldn't count GL out just yet.  My sales are definitely down, but flatlined?  No.  Had two sales today.  But for the month, GL is probably down about 50% for me.

GL's upload process is the easiest in the business, and their commissions are more than fair.  They're run by good people, and it sounds like they've been hit pretty hard by the recent changes at Google.  But we all know the Google gods can giveth and they can taketh away... and sometimes give back again.  GL may yet have its second wind. 

I'll continue uploading there every day, because it's easy, I believe in the company, and you never know when an agency may rise.

tab62

« Reply #21 on: June 13, 2013, 22:57 »
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I think SL took all our sales away when he joined  :(



« Reply #22 on: June 13, 2013, 23:22 »
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Although i like their site and the upload process, im not sold on their search system. This is what is really killing this site in my opinion. I do plenty of searches on that site and frankly, im not impressed with the results that come in. There is just too much similar content from the same contributors showing up all the time. Sometimes i see more than 10 to 20 images from the same contributor on any given search in the same page. If i was a buyer, i would want more variety from my search and it is a clear indication to me as a buyer to go somewhere else. You just cant have a couple of contributors dominating the first 2 pages on any given search period.
Invest your money in the search algorithm graphics left overs. Or else your site would be like your name implies... left over pieces of graphics that clients/buyers wont waste time sifting through.

« Reply #23 on: June 14, 2013, 06:17 »
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I think SL took all our sales away when he joined  :(

Doubt it.  I did $80 in April, $13 in May and $5 in June.  Hope that wasn't all your sales. 

I do agree more search options and a better main sort algorithm would help buyers.  When I buy there, I end up using their curated lightboxes.

Tryingmybest

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« Reply #24 on: June 14, 2013, 09:46 »
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Is it really worth your time for only 15 sales a month?

For me it is. No submission process. No categories. Also, they pay a very fair rate. Just for that I feel they deserve my support. I want to see GL successful.  8)


 

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