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« Reply #25 on: June 14, 2009, 09:21 »
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Any Ideas??? How can we promote this site?
« Last Edit: June 14, 2009, 21:11 by Dennis Holmes »


MisterElements

« Reply #26 on: June 14, 2009, 10:26 »
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so how do you know so much about the inner workings of clipartof ??? ;) whoever said I was not interested in helping promote the site! I just think you are doing it wrong and being that I've been there much longer I can said that :D
« Last Edit: June 14, 2009, 10:40 by MisterElements »

« Reply #27 on: June 14, 2009, 10:34 »
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Any Ideas??? How can we promote this site?
« Last Edit: June 14, 2009, 21:11 by Dennis Holmes »

« Reply #28 on: June 14, 2009, 11:17 »
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Sorry Dennis I will not leave.......
I give every agency one year time...........
I said nothing bad about clipart I have only something against your promotional thing TO EAGER ......
I don't understand your way of promoting an agency unless your gaining something from it.....That's all....
Bye Bye....


MisterElements

« Reply #29 on: June 14, 2009, 12:20 »
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Sorry Dennis I will not leave.......
I give every agency one year time...........
I said nothing bad about clipart I have only something against your promotional thing TO EAGER ......
I don't understand your way of promoting an agency unless your gaining something from it.....That's all....
Bye Bye....




Good !! and welcome to clipartof Kaycee!! :D :D and goodluck to you Dennis on those 20,000 images!

bittersweet

« Reply #30 on: June 14, 2009, 12:37 »
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I agree that what started out as a seemingly well-intentioned effort to spread the word to artists about this site has turned into somewhat of a crusade that in all honesty is turning people off of the site, rather than the opposite. Someone has crowned himself company spokesperson, and then begins attacking other members of this forum? How does that reflect on the site you are promoting?

Perhaps it never occurred to you that there are people here who actually do purchase images?


ETA: For late arrivals, the previously posted snarky comments by the OP have been removed, so this appears to make no sense.
« Last Edit: June 15, 2009, 08:54 by whatalife »

MisterElements

« Reply #31 on: June 14, 2009, 13:33 »
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I agree that what started out as a seemingly well-intentioned effort to spread the word to artists about this site has turned into somewhat of a crusade that in all honesty is turning people off of the site, rather than the opposite. Someone has crowned himself company spokesperson, and then begins attacking other members of this forum? How does that reflect on the site you are promoting?

Perhaps it never occurred to you that there are people here who actually do purchase images?

I do agree!! 101% :D :D

« Reply #32 on: June 14, 2009, 20:20 »
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Any Ideas??? How can we promote this site?
« Last Edit: June 14, 2009, 21:11 by Dennis Holmes »

« Reply #33 on: June 15, 2009, 02:51 »
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I agree that what started out as a seemingly well-intentioned effort to spread the word to artists about this site has turned into somewhat of a crusade that in all honesty is turning people off of the site, rather than the opposite. Someone has crowned himself company spokesperson, and then begins attacking other members of this forum? How does that reflect on the site you are promoting?

So true. I don't think Dennis realises how much damage he's doing to clipartof's reputation.  :-\ ???

I'm thinking if it's all worth .......sofar no sales for me, new uploads are still pending,I see a lot of new artists with a empty portfolio......
I know it's hard work for Jamie and crew I was glad that they accept me in to the agency but now it makes me wonder if it was the best step to make ......

+1
Exactly the same boat for me. Jamie has been really great, and it's not fair to judge the site until my entire portfolio is online, but I've got to admit I'm a little disappointed with zero sales.

« Reply #34 on: June 15, 2009, 04:28 »
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So glad I started this, I appreciate all the great positive advice! It gives me such a warm feeling to be appreciated.

See how you feel in a few months. 8) Once Google archived my images I started getting sales. - a week or so.

P.S You would wonder if the owners of the site where upset, why would I continue?
If you want me to stop trying to promote the site email the owners and inform them.

If anything it's the negative posts that are doing the damage if any.

I'll keep watching the post to see if hopefully someone with good feedback comes.

For the rest I'm just ignoring.

« Reply #35 on: June 15, 2009, 04:59 »
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This thread makes no sense to me. Have a lot of posts been deleted?

What sort of help are you after Dennis?

« Reply #36 on: June 15, 2009, 05:17 »
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This thread makes no sense to me. Have a lot of posts been deleted?

What sort of help are you after Dennis?

Please read the first post on the thread

« Reply #37 on: June 15, 2009, 05:19 »
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This thread makes no sense to me. Have a lot of posts been deleted?

What sort of help are you after Dennis?

Please read the first post on the thread

What are Jamies ideas, just so I don't duplicate?

« Reply #38 on: June 15, 2009, 05:31 »
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This thread makes no sense to me. Have a lot of posts been deleted?

What sort of help are you after Dennis?

Please read the first post on the thread

What are Jamies ideas, just so I don't duplicate?


She said forums and blogs for graphic artists and web designers. I have not had allot of luck.

THANKS!!

« Reply #39 on: June 15, 2009, 05:49 »
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In my opinion Dennis is eager to promote the site because now he have a lot of Artist Referrals but he also have a lot more of competition. Dennis if i wrong im sorry, but no one gives without received! You think that you can make some extra $ by referring some artists but that have a price, more competition to you!

I dont want to make a personal  attack to Dennis, and i understand the argument of make extra with referral program, but please be honest about it!

All the best for you.   

« Reply #40 on: June 15, 2009, 06:20 »
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That's right. No one gives without receiving.

 ::) I'll go through it one last time. Without Jamie's help I could not be on her site - (or any).
I have a chronic illness.

She went out of her way to help me and all I wanted to do was to help her in return. She said she needed artists, so I got them.

Yes I got referrals, that's the way the site is set up.
People don't need to give a referral if they don't want to.

I have seen no one that dose the same style as me on the site and so I have no competition from the new artists.
 
The truth and end of subject.

« Last Edit: June 15, 2009, 06:31 by Dennis Holmes »

« Reply #41 on: June 15, 2009, 07:58 »
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I have seen no one that dose the same style as me on the site and so I have no competition from the new artists.


Dont fool your self, you cant find no one with your style but that dont mean that you dont heave competition!
Imagine someone that needs a illustration of a Dog for a mascot... that person heave a idea of buy a dog with your style, then she/her goes to clipart or some other site and type dog in the search and appears all the illustrations of dogs (and dont forget that in her mind they are looking for your type of illustration) but in the process of search the site they find some other dog with a different style but they like it more!!
You as just lost $$$.
This happen to me sometimes as a buyer, sometimes i need some vectors and in my mind i imagine something and when i start search i find something totally different. At the end competition is competition and you have competition!

« Reply #42 on: June 15, 2009, 08:29 »
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I have no competitions with my style.

I don't know how or what I can say or do to get through to thick headed. narrow minded people.

The thread is about finding buyers for all the contributors
I can't believe most of those repling to this tread don't think that is good for all???
« Last Edit: June 15, 2009, 09:27 by Dennis Holmes »

« Reply #43 on: June 15, 2009, 08:30 »
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Jamie could setup a referral program for buyers with an affilliate service like Commission Junction: http://www.cj.com.

If I see that actual sales are coming in I will promote the site via my own website, perhaps replacing links to Shutter and Fotolia with a link to ClipartOf. But I have first to see how things develop.

« Reply #44 on: June 15, 2009, 08:37 »
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Jamie could setup a referral program for buyers with an affiliate service like Commission Junction: http://www.cj.com.

If I see that actual sales are coming in I will promote the site via my own website, perhaps replacing links to Shutter and Fotolia with a link to ClipartOf. But I have first to see how things develop.



They need to find out about the 30% Tax details. I've recommended this idea as well.
but they can't afford to pay the tax for their contributors and do an affiliation program as well.

Thanks for positive feed back  Maul

« Reply #45 on: June 15, 2009, 08:54 »
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The 30% tax is payable only if a contributor resides in a country without a double taxation treaty with the US. For all others - probably the majority of contributors - paying this tax can be avoided.

ClipartOf and the constributors - or at least those of them who understand the value of marketing - could form a link referral ring, which increases exposure and traffic for all participating sites without costing anything. Since e.g. my graphics are mostly very different from the existing stuff at ClipartOf I can probably attract a totally new and different customer croud. This might be true for some of the other new contributors as well.

« Reply #46 on: June 15, 2009, 09:25 »
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The 30% tax is payable only if a contributor resides in a country without a double taxation treaty with the US. For all others - probably the majority of contributors - paying this tax can be avoided.

ClipartOf and the contributors - or at least those of them who understand the value of marketing - could form a link referral ring, which increases exposure and traffic for all participating sites without costing anything. Since e.g. my graphics are mostly very different from the existing stuff at ClipartOf I can probably attract a totally new and different customer crowd. This might be true for some of the other new contributors as well.

Maui, could you please email Jamie and explain about the tax please?

The ring idea is great. Do you know how to set it up?

I'm not sure how many others would be interested but I am. I'm not sure exactly how to get all the contacts.

I know some would not not give there true inforation as they like to hide behind their alias'

« Reply #47 on: June 15, 2009, 09:37 »
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Maui, could you please email Jamie and explain about the tax please?

I am waiting for Shutter to clarify things, then we can tell Jamie. Up to now a few of the details are a bit obscure.
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The ring idea is great. Do you know how to set it up?

ClipartOf puts up links to the contributor's websites, and we place links to Clipartof on our sites.
Since ClipartOf has a large traffic, this will get us more exposure with the search engines = more traffic for us. The additional visitors will occasionally follow the link to clipartof, which gives them more exposure as well.

So we would just tell Jamie the link to our website, and we would place reciprocal links on our sites.

« Reply #48 on: June 15, 2009, 09:52 »
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ClipartOf puts up links to the contributor's websites, and we place links to Clipartof on our sites.
Since ClipartOf has a large traffic, this will get us more exposure with the search engines = more traffic for us. The additional visitors will occasionally follow the link to clipartof, which gives them more exposure as well.

So we would just tell Jamie the link to our website, and we would place reciprocal links on our sites.

I already use my contributors link. I'm not sure about this idea, but take it up with Jamie.

bittersweet

« Reply #49 on: June 15, 2009, 09:54 »
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Maui,
You are not talking about a true ring, right? Just a reciprocal link agreement?

In my mind, a true web ring has a rotating set of banner tile ads that appear in rotation on all participating sites. For instance, on my site it might show clipartof, or it might show one of my fellow contributors. On clipartof, it would show one contributor link at a time, in rotation.

What you are describing sounds like each of the contributors would have on their sites a single banner tile ad linking to clipartof. Then would clipartof have a page (?) with multiple similar links to each of these contributors? Or text only links?

I think you're idea has great potential. I'm trying to envision how it will work as more artists are added. I know the spots are limited, but I don't know what that cap number actually is. Also, not all artists maintain their own web sites, or will want to participate, so maybe it's not so much of an issue.


 

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