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Abiding by the DMCA does not mean you "take copyright seriously"
SpaceStockFootage:
--- Quote from: cathyslife on May 05, 2019, 07:49 --- And once one single stolen image is found in a portfolio, the whole port should come down and the contributor banned, not just the stolen image.
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Completely agree with you on that one.
Justanotherphotographer:
Not sure I follow a lot of what you are saying
--- Quote from: SpaceStockFootage on May 05, 2019, 07:33 ---Well it isn't their content (the agencies), and in some of the instances you've mentioned, it isn't your content either... so it's kind of understandable that nothing can be done.
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No it really isn't understandable, in fact is just isn't true that nothing can be done. It is their site. They can do what they want. They are choosing to do nothing but cover their a**. In this instance if a portfolio full of obviously stolen images is pointed out to them by anyone, with links to multiple other people's portfolios demonstrating where the images were stolen from they could review the evidence and shut down the perpetrators. In fact that is 100% what they should be doing. They aren't just a platform. They owe to their buyers to do everything they can do guarantee they are buying a legitimate license and to their contributors not to aid in the theft of their work.
--- Quote from: SpaceStockFootage on May 05, 2019, 07:33 ---Surely you'd be the first to complain if you had some of your content removed by a DMCA submitted by some random person who isn't even the copyright owner?
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Not sure why you are hung up on this, maybe because you got the wrong end of the stick to start with? But anyway, this is exactly what would happen now if someone sent an illegitimate DMCA. They would remove the work without any investigation. So not sure what you are on about. I would prefer they actually look into the case.
--- Quote from: SpaceStockFootage on May 05, 2019, 07:33 ---Sure the setup isn't ideal, with plenty of shortfalls and loopholes, but I'm not sure what else you would suggest? Other than the agencies hiring teams of investigators at great cost for minimal, if any, return.
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Looking into cases in detail like IStock once did many moons ago was perfectly workable and didn't put them out of business. The cost would be minimal. Look how much one contributor has managed to do with catching people on SS (and the response was to try and silence the whistleblower).
--- Quote from: SpaceStockFootage on May 05, 2019, 07:33 ---And if they did all this investigation stuff/research rather than just doing the minimum with regards to DMCA action (removing or not removing content based on the info/actions of the two parties... wouldn't they then not even be doing the minimum with regards to DMCA action?
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No, they would be doing more than the minimum. Agencies did it in the past, some still do. In fact some of the worst offenders now used to be very good at shutting down flagrant or repeat offenders.
Justanotherphotographer:
--- Quote from: SpaceStockFootage on May 05, 2019, 07:54 ---
--- Quote from: cathyslife on May 05, 2019, 07:49 --- And once one single stolen image is found in a portfolio, the whole port should come down and the contributor banned, not just the stolen image.
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Completely agree with you on that one.
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This is basically the core of my argument. At the moment agencies are increasingly just taking down the specific content the DMCA takedown notice references. That is what I mean by "bare minimum"
Pauws99:
If I saw someone stealing sausages from the butchers I wouldn't expect to report it for the Police for them to say "They are not your sausages its none of your business"
Chichikov:
--- Quote from: Justanotherphotographer on May 05, 2019, 04:24 ---[…]
Simply following the DMCA without any other oversight or investigation of suspect accounts doesn’t prove you “take copyright seriously” it shows you absolutely do NOT take copyright seriously (beyond covering your A**) and only care about not getting sued. Quit the BS we can see through it.
Thanks
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Excellent!!
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