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« on: March 16, 2012, 13:24 »
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Am I correct in assuming that providing sharing links via Facebook, Twitter, Stumbleupon, etc., is a copyright violation?


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« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2012, 13:45 »
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Sharing what? A full-size image with the main goal of allowing people to download that picture, or just a small blog-size picture to add some visuals to a twitter or facebook post?

I guess the first is copyright violation, the second is not.

« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2012, 13:52 »
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This is the image

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« Last Edit: March 18, 2012, 05:05 by dehooks »

« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2012, 18:53 »
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Great, now I'm hungry  >:(

The image is hosted at 900px width which is against most agencies' licensing terms.

Of course the link to the image shouldn't be shared but hey, what do we know...?

« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2012, 20:08 »
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After inquiring if a license was purchased for use of this image, their only response was to ask for proof that I owned the copyright.  After sending proof, I've heard nothing and the image is still up.  If you do a Google Images search for "pepperoni pizza", it's actually listed on the second line. It was the top line until just a few minutes ago.  He has over 5,000 views on that image.  This is my best selling image.  He uploaded it on Oct. 3, 2011.  Maybe it's coincidental, but on Istock I had frequent downloads for that image until early October.  They have dwindled to just a trickle now. 

RacePhoto

« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2012, 22:38 »
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I'm not sure I understand all of your question.

Someone paid for a license, somewhere (you didn't mention if it's for sale on 1 site or 25?) And he's now using it on his food page as an illustration.

Widefood is not "sharing" it, it's being used on the web as an illustration.

So are you asking if the size is illegal use?

What site was it downloaded/licensed from with what license?

Or is someone else sharing it not the site you linked to? I'm lost.

« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2012, 22:58 »
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... Maybe it's coincidental, but on Istock I had frequent downloads for that image until early October.  They have dwindled to just a trickle now.  
Same thing happened to me 2 years ago when my best seller was used as a background for ebay auctions etc. - full resolution, free to download for everyone who knew how to use the right mouse button.

I was wondering why my nice and regular sales pretty much disappeared from then on. I massively enforced my copyright and got it removed from ebay, flickr and Google Images which caused the whole problem.

Since then I'm getting some sales again but nothing compared to the time it really went "viral".

« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2012, 05:58 »
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I'm not sure I understand all of your question.

Someone paid for a license, somewhere (you didn't mention if it's for sale on 1 site or 25?) And he's now using it on his food page as an illustration.

Widefood is not "sharing" it, it's being used on the web as an illustration.

So are you asking if the size is illegal use?

What site was it downloaded/licensed from with what license?

Or is someone else sharing it not the site you linked to? I'm lost.


The image is available at 14 sites.  There's a button in the bottom left corner of the image with links to share via e mail, Facebook, and Twitter.  The usage is not my only concern, though.  As I mentioned before, I inquired about his purchase of a license and from where it was purchased.  His only response has been to ask for proof of my copyright ownership, which I sent.  His lack of response about the license indicates to me that one was not purchased.  I do realize that image theft is rampant and I'm certainly not immune to that.  What really bothers me about this particular situation is the extremely high Google Images search placement.  Page 1, row 1 for my best selling (although not lately) image.

« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2012, 06:55 »
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Even if he purchased a license, I also believe that that size is too big for what the web site license allows. There may be stock photo agencies that allow larger sizes like that, I am not well-versed in ALL of them, though. Under no circumstances is he allowed to let others use the photo, though. Again, AFAIK there is no license that allows for re-distributing. Re-distributing is a copyright violation.

I would send him a DMCA notice, explaining the terms under which he can use the image. And if he isn't willing to tell you where he purchased it and when, so that you might verify, I would assume that he stole it (downloaded from a torrent site or something similar).

Microbius

« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2012, 06:57 »
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I'm not sure I understand all of your question.

Someone paid for a license, somewhere (you didn't mention if it's for sale on 1 site or 25?) And he's now using it on his food page as an illustration.

Widefood is not "sharing" it, it's being used on the web as an illustration.

So are you asking if the size is illegal use?

What site was it downloaded/licensed from with what license?

Or is someone else sharing it not the site you linked to? I'm lost.
As far as I can work out that site is sharing it, the images are there specifically so people can download them, organised by categories and the like.

Looks like they make their living via Google Adwords, so I would send an email giving them a deadline to respond then DMCA Google.
You can bet that will get it removed  

« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2012, 07:08 »
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I'm not sure I understand all of your question.

Someone paid for a license, somewhere (you didn't mention if it's for sale on 1 site or 25?) And he's now using it on his food page as an illustration.

Widefood is not "sharing" it, it's being used on the web as an illustration.

So are you asking if the size is illegal use?

What site was it downloaded/licensed from with what license?

Or is someone else sharing it not the site you linked to? I'm lost.
As far as I can work out that site is sharing it, the images are there specifically so people can download them, organised by categories and the like.

Looks like they make their living via Google Adwords, so I would send an email giving them a deadline to respond then DMCA Google.
You can bet that will get it removed  


That's exactly my take on the situation. 

RacePhoto

« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2012, 19:43 »
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I'm not sure I understand all of your question.

Someone paid for a license, somewhere (you didn't mention if it's for sale on 1 site or 25?) And he's now using it on his food page as an illustration.

Widefood is not "sharing" it, it's being used on the web as an illustration.

So are you asking if the size is illegal use?

What site was it downloaded/licensed from with what license?

Or is someone else sharing it not the site you linked to? I'm lost.


The image is available at 14 sites.  There's a button in the bottom left corner of the image with links to share via e mail, Facebook, and Twitter.  The usage is not my only concern, though.  As I mentioned before, I inquired about his purchase of a license and from where it was purchased.  His only response has been to ask for proof of my copyright ownership, which I sent.  His lack of response about the license indicates to me that one was not purchased.  I do realize that image theft is rampant and I'm certainly not immune to that.  What really bothers me about this particular situation is the extremely high Google Images search placement.  Page 1, row 1 for my best selling (although not lately) image.

Ah, sometimes you need to point out the specifics. It started out kind of vague and calling it image sharing, when it looked like a recipe site, so I didn't understand that people could "like" the recipe and share the link, which would also show them your image.

At first I thought it was for recipes, not one of those free image or free wallpaper things. But it appears I was wrong and looking at the text and not the actual intentions of the site. Complicated isn't it?

Knowing where you have sold this image might help you, but since the agencies don't tell us anything, don't require attribution and strip all the data, we get screwed?

Hey good news, the pages hardly have any views, most of the images register =0= views. Hope your link didn't boost your own pizza in the rankings.

Good Luck:

Registrant:
achmad triharso
Kalimaya 10 Tlogo mas
Malang, East Java 65411
Indonesia
« Last Edit: March 17, 2012, 20:01 by RacePhoto »

« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2012, 20:44 »
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I'm not sure I understand all of your question.

Someone paid for a license, somewhere (you didn't mention if it's for sale on 1 site or 25?) And he's now using it on his food page as an illustration.

Widefood is not "sharing" it, it's being used on the web as an illustration.

So are you asking if the size is illegal use?

What site was it downloaded/licensed from with what license?

Or is someone else sharing it not the site you linked to? I'm lost.


The image is available at 14 sites.  There's a button in the bottom left corner of the image with links to share via e mail, Facebook, and Twitter.  The usage is not my only concern, though.  As I mentioned before, I inquired about his purchase of a license and from where it was purchased.  His only response has been to ask for proof of my copyright ownership, which I sent.  His lack of response about the license indicates to me that one was not purchased.  I do realize that image theft is rampant and I'm certainly not immune to that.  What really bothers me about this particular situation is the extremely high Google Images search placement.  Page 1, row 1 for my best selling (although not lately) image.

Ah, sometimes you need to point out the specifics. It started out kind of vague and calling it image sharing, when it looked like a recipe site, so I didn't understand that people could "like" the recipe and share the link, which would also show them your image.

At first I thought it was for recipes, not one of those free image or free wallpaper things. But it appears I was wrong and looking at the text and not the actual intentions of the site. Complicated isn't it?

Knowing where you have sold this image might help you, but since the agencies don't tell us anything, don't require attribution and strip all the data, we get screwed?

Hey good news, the pages hardly have any views, most of the images register =0= views. Hope your link didn't boost your own pizza in the rankings.

Good Luck:

Registrant:
achmad triharso
Kalimaya 10 Tlogo mas
Malang, East Java 65411
Indonesia

Yeah.  I agree.  My original question wasn't exactly worded correctly.  Most of the images do register 0 views, but mine has over 5000, another reason for my concern.  Thanks for the info. 

« Reply #13 on: March 18, 2012, 05:06 »
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"Hope your link didn't boost your own pizza in the rankings."

It actually did move up a couple of spots.  I've removed the link.  Thanks.


 

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