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« Reply #25 on: March 20, 2014, 20:50 »
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Nice work guys. seems most of the stuffs on fiverr are removed  :)


« Reply #26 on: March 20, 2014, 21:16 »
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I don't understand how these guys make a profit...

If it's 5$ per day, it's 150$ per month, maximum. And they pay the subscription at least 215$/month (year plan).
They are just selling their unused downloads?

EmberMike

« Reply #27 on: March 20, 2014, 21:31 »
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I don't understand how these guys make a profit...

If it's 5$ per day, it's 150$ per month, maximum. And they pay the subscription at least 215$/month (year plan).
They are just selling their unused downloads?

They're not limited to $5 per day. They can process as many sales as they can get. And although they're limited to 25 DLs per day at SS, they might have stockpiled some images, have some pirated collections, some other sources, etc. Assuming some buyers don't care what 20 images they get, or just ask for 20 landscapes or 20 business images or whatever.

In one gig, a seller has 55 feedback responses on a gig that has been up for 20 days. Assuming that not everyone leaves feedback, that means he has gotten at least 55 sales, probably more like 75-100 or more. Let's say 75. At $4 per sale (fiverr takes a buck per sale) that's $300. He's already in the black, with 12 more sales in the queue and another 10 days left to cash in on this subscription.

In the end he should pocket at least $250-300. Not great, but not bad for just downloading photos.

Here's another freaky little possibility: Contributors could use this to game the system. Think about it. You buy one of these gigs, and ask the guy to send you 20 of your own images. If you're in the $0.38 tier that's $7.60. You can bump up your earnings using fiverr. Or at least accelerate your rise through the ranks. At $0.25 you'd break even on the $5 investment.

Obviously I'm not suggesting anyone do it. It would severely put your contributor status at risk of permanent banning. But there are some less-upstanding contributors out there. I wouldn't be surprised if some are doing exactly this.
« Last Edit: March 20, 2014, 21:36 by EmberMike »

« Reply #28 on: March 20, 2014, 21:47 »
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In addition to being disgusted about the slimeballs listing stock photos for sale on this site, it was pretty crazy to see the things people will do for $5. I can only assume that none of them are very good :)

I actually use Fiverr almost weekly for voice-overs and transcription. It's hard to believe, but i always feel like I'm ripping those people off because I get so much for my money.

Please don't think that I'm in favor of the image thieves!! I'm just sharing my experience with the site as a whole.

« Reply #29 on: March 20, 2014, 22:08 »
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Here's another freaky little possibility: Contributors could use this to game the system. Think about it. You buy one of these gigs, and ask the guy to send you 20 of your own images. If you're in the $0.38 tier that's $7.60. You can bump up your earnings using fiverr. Or at least accelerate your rise through the ranks. At $0.25 you'd break even on the $5 investment.

Obviously I'm not suggesting anyone do it. It would severely put your contributor status at risk of permanent banning. But there are some less-upstanding contributors out there. I wouldn't be surprised if some are doing exactly this.

Yeah, I think SS would consider it weird that one contributor is downloading so many of your images and ban the both of you.

« Reply #30 on: March 21, 2014, 04:08 »
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In addition to being disgusted about the slimeballs listing stock photos for sale on this site, it was pretty crazy to see the things people will do for $5. I can only assume that none of them are very good :)

This. I am totally giving "5 professional isolations for $5" a go. Sure, it will probably come out terribly, but it's worth risking $5...

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« Reply #31 on: March 21, 2014, 04:38 »
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Have you guys seen this: http://www.fiverr.com/logovala/download-any-shutter-stock-photo-or-vector-files

Makes me sick.

The Gig you were looking for is no longer available.


Yes, Shutterstock answered me about 20 minutes after my email that they have had this gig taken down.

« Reply #32 on: March 21, 2014, 05:56 »
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In addition to being disgusted about the slimeballs listing stock photos for sale on this site, it was pretty crazy to see the things people will do for $5. I can only assume that none of them are very good :)

This. I am totally giving "5 professional isolations for $5" a go. Sure, it will probably come out terribly, but it's worth risking $5...

No. They just send already isolated images that they got from SS or anywhere.

EmberMike

« Reply #33 on: March 21, 2014, 08:01 »
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I've bought a couple of fiverr gigs. The voiceover stuff is worth more than $5. Sometimes not a whole lot more, but if you dig through enough samples there are some people on there who are pretty good.

I also bought a product review video, and the person did a good job but it was a little awkward. It's hard to make a product review ever sound authentic, so it's more an issue of the nature of product review videos than in the abilities of the person doing the gig.

« Reply #34 on: March 21, 2014, 17:07 »
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I've bought a couple of fiverr gigs. The voiceover stuff is worth more than $5. Sometimes not a whole lot more, but if you dig through enough samples there are some people on there who are pretty good.

I also bought a product review video, and the person did a good job but it was a little awkward. It's hard to make a product review ever sound authentic, so it's more an issue of the nature of product review videos than in the abilities of the person doing the gig.

I bought a translation gig, from a translator with good buyer's comments, and I got a barely edited, infamous, Google Translate job. Dind't leave feedback, just fleed from fiverr.

« Reply #35 on: March 22, 2014, 11:29 »
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In addition to being disgusted about the slimeballs listing stock photos for sale on this site, it was pretty crazy to see the things people will do for $5. I can only assume that none of them are very good :)

This. I am totally giving "5 professional isolations for $5" a go. Sure, it will probably come out terribly, but it's worth risking $5...

Aaaand I come back to report: The isolations aren't even half bad. Certainly better than when I dabble at it. For people who will always remain more photographer than "digital artist": can recommend.

« Reply #36 on: March 22, 2014, 12:20 »
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In addition to being disgusted about the slimeballs listing stock photos for sale on this site, it was pretty crazy to see the things people will do for $5. I can only assume that none of them are very good :)

This. I am totally giving "5 professional isolations for $5" a go. Sure, it will probably come out terribly, but it's worth risking $5...

Aaaand I come back to report: The isolations aren't even half bad. Certainly better than when I dabble at it. For people who will always remain more photographer than "digital artist": can recommend.

If you can upload them to SS and get them accepted, then that's a win - I don't know how bad you are at isolations :)

« Reply #37 on: March 22, 2014, 12:24 »
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« Last Edit: May 11, 2014, 22:56 by tickstock »

EmberMike

« Reply #38 on: March 22, 2014, 14:00 »
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Nice work guys. seems most of the stuffs on fiverr are removed  :)

That lasted about a day (maybe not, it says created 2 days ago):  http://www.fiverr.com/mainam/give-you-10-high-quality-stock-photos-or-vectors


I really don't think fiverr cares about this. They yank a few gigs when we pile on with the complaints, but then it's back to the business of infringement as usual.

Anyone want to take a shot at hitting fiverr with some tweets, blog posts, etc., about their lack of concern for artists' rights? Maybe someone can come up with a catchy hashtag...


« Reply #39 on: March 22, 2014, 14:14 »
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Aaaand I come back to report: The isolations aren't even half bad. Certainly better than when I dabble at it. For people who will always remain more photographer than "digital artist": can recommend.
Care to show before/after? Or at least describe the starting photo - did it have a complex background or...

« Reply #40 on: March 22, 2014, 17:58 »
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Aaaand I come back to report: The isolations aren't even half bad. Certainly better than when I dabble at it. For people who will always remain more photographer than "digital artist": can recommend.
Care to show before/after? Or at least describe the starting photo - did it have a complex background or...

Lets just say I am not sure any of them would pass Shutterstock, but considering that I gave her some pretty tough stuff (semi out of focus hair for example) and the subjects' ambient lighting itself wouldn't allow for it to ever look natural in front of a white background, she did a good job on four of the five.

I wasn't trying to use them for stock though. I was testing with family stuff and now have a great image of my old father's floating, well-isolated, cigar-smoking, scowling face to use whenever it pleases me to piss him off. Well worth $5.

EmberMike

« Reply #41 on: March 22, 2014, 21:34 »
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Seems it's not just a Shutterstock problem. This one is sourcing images from Thinkstock:

http://www.fiverr.com/nanico/send-you-10-high-quality-stock-photos-illustrations-or-vectors-you-want--10


EmberMike

« Reply #42 on: March 22, 2014, 23:28 »
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Bigger

Smaller

Doing a push to get the word out on Monday. Not letting this one go. This isn't some random pirate site giving away images. This a known company enabling copyright infringement and illegal resale of creative content with no regard for the artists' rights. It's more of a rub that they are in the business of facilitating deals for creatives to sell what they do, and yet they crap all over artists' rights if it means there's a dollar in it for them.

« Reply #43 on: March 23, 2014, 16:03 »
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another shameless thief (will post message in a few hours)

http://www.fiverr.com/mrxr00t3d

« Reply #44 on: March 23, 2014, 18:00 »
+10


ahahah

« Reply #45 on: March 23, 2014, 18:55 »
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thieves still online!

http://www.fiverr.com/mrxr00t3d
http://www.fiverr.com/vlad56
http://www.fiverr.com/clickadv
http://www.fiverr.com/maxsmorgan
http://www.fiverr.com/websitevala
http://www.fiverr.com/royalty_photo

SS needs to remove these guys, its impossible to know which files they will get from SS so we cannot even write a DMCA letter

EmberMike

« Reply #46 on: March 23, 2014, 20:57 »
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Micha Kaufmann is the CEO and co-founder of Fiverr. I just emailed him (micha@fiverr.com) in an attempt to get a conversation about this issue going and hopefully put a stop to it.

I'd suggest that anyone here who has a few minutes email him as well. Be respectful, of course.

Also, I know some folks here have been buying Fiverr gigs, I've done it in the past myself. But I have to suggest that you don't buy gigs while this issue is ongoing. Seems counterproductive to be spending money at Fiverr while they're profiting from our work.
« Last Edit: March 23, 2014, 21:01 by EmberMike »

EmberMike

« Reply #47 on: March 24, 2014, 07:46 »
+5

« Reply #48 on: March 24, 2014, 08:41 »
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Shouldn't the agencies be handling this, we pay them for a reason don't we?

EmberMike

« Reply #49 on: March 24, 2014, 09:08 »
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Shouldn't the agencies be handling this, we pay them for a reason don't we?

They should be, and probably are but I get the feeling Fiverr is just as willing to ignore an agency as they are an individual artist.

So my hope is that if we can get enough momentum behind this, maybe they'd be more willing to listen to a large group. They may not care about a couple of emails from us or from Shutterstock or Thinkstock, but they might think differently about it if word spreads enough that Fiverr starts to become well-known as a company that sh--s all over content creators.


 

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