Author Topic: Game Over : Pinterest pirates gets 100 million $ ! (Read 52773 times)

cathyslife · « **Reply #100 on:** May 21, 2012, 07:56 »

Quote from: grafix04 on May 21, 2012, 07:42

Quote from: drugal on May 21, 2012, 07:00

Since the internet has become fast and easily accessible to so many, the price of generic images (among many other things) has been on a curve to zero. This is one of the final steps before getting to that pricepoint of zero. You, yes You, endorsed this by creating oversupply by adding your content to mass sale schemes. Theres nothing you can do about it now... and if you think it can't get worse, you are - as always - wrong. They can, and probably will charge you for uploading to gain popularity.

Who says I think it can't get worse? It just did. It gets worse by the week. I'm sure they'll keep screwing us but that's your solution? You believe that since they're going to screw us further, since the market is so over-saturated with images and since commissions and prices are dropping, we may as well hand over our images to anyone for free? Awesome solutions! I will now give in and pin all my images on Pinterest. Thanks for your brilliant advice!

And as typically happens by these trolls spouting the rhetoric, blame the contributors for the theft instead of the parties actually involved, like the agencies or the pirates.

rubyroo · « **Reply #101 on:** May 21, 2012, 08:00 »

Quote from: grafix04 on May 21, 2012, 05:30

Scary!

Only the copyright holder has the right to 'pin' their images and by 'pinning' them, they allow others to 're-pin', share and USE their images (for free). In your scenario, a buyer who purchases a license, does not own the copyright and therefore is not allowed to 'pin' the image. The problem is, 'pinners' don’t read the terms of service. They read what's written on the website which is misleading and they assume they are free to 'pin' anything they like on the internet. When something is 'pinned' there, it's perceived to be in public domain and others believe they are free to use it, in any way they want to use it (for free). This is the problem.

I hope Serban removes the 'pin-it' option from our files because he is breaching our copyright by having it there. Has Serban read Pinterest's terms of service? If he hasn't, that’s incompetence and irresponsible, and if he has, that's criminal!

Thanks for your reply grafix04. Very interesting and no, I hadn't read the terms. That looks like a whole can of worms for the agencies and buying 'pinners' to consider. I do hope the agencies will get their act together and figure out how to protect their and our remuneration without continuing to add to the problem on the basis of 'it's the future, mannnn'. They need to remember that they have a part to play in shaping that future, and a responsibility to copyright holders.

lisafx · « **Reply #102 on:** May 21, 2012, 08:36 »

Quote from: grafix04 on May 21, 2012, 07:32

I can't see Dan's images on that link Cathy provided. Was he telling fibs about 'pinning' them or has he had a change of heart and removed them since his last post?

Well, Dan can speak for himself, but I assume he has pinned his images from Warmpicture, the site he owns, rather than from DT.

drugal · « **Reply #103 on:** May 21, 2012, 11:40 »

Quote from: grafix04 on May 21, 2012, 07:42

Quote from: drugal on May 21, 2012, 07:00

Since the internet has become fast and easily accessible to so many, the price of generic images (among many other things) has been on a curve to zero. This is one of the final steps before getting to that pricepoint of zero. You, yes You, endorsed this by creating oversupply by adding your content to mass sale schemes. Theres nothing you can do about it now... and if you think it can't get worse, you are - as always - wrong. They can, and probably will charge you for uploading to gain popularity.

Who says I think it can't get worse? It just did. It gets worse by the week. I'm sure they'll keep screwing us but that's your solution? You believe that since they're going to screw us further, since the market is so over-saturated with images and since commissions and prices are dropping, we may as well hand over our images to anyone for free? Awesome solutions! I will now give in and pin all my images on Pinterest. Thanks for your brilliant advice!

Where did I say i'm offering any solution? Kids demanding a magic spell-word that makes the boogieman disappear.... there isn't. The only point I'm pressing here is that this is all the direct consequence of your own actions. It's incredible how not one person can face that. I don't think I ever seen this level of denial in my life, except for religious cults. I personally don't mind or care about pinterest or the rest. So, solutions... what you are going to do? Whine here for days without even a hint of any action plan, like the case with Istock? What a waste of time.

grafix04 · « **Reply #104 on:** May 21, 2012, 12:56 »

Quote from: drugal on May 21, 2012, 11:40

Where did I say i'm offering any solution? Kids demanding a magic spell-word that makes the boogieman disappear.... there isn't. The only point I'm pressing here is that this is all the direct consequence of your own actions. It's incredible how not one person can face that. I don't think I ever seen this level of denial in my life, except for religious cults. I personally don't mind or care about pinterest or the rest. So, solutions... what you are going to do? Whine here for days without even a hint of any action plan, like the case with Istock? What a waste of time.

Exactly where have I whined? Rubyroo asked a question and I posted to answer it, to help her out by explaining their TOS which I'm familiar with.

My actions? Do you know me at all or do you simply jump from thread to thread typing the same repetitive nonsense to anyone, regardless of who they are, hoping that your assumption is correct for all. You’re making a bit of a fool of yourself by doing this. Instead of making stupid assumptions, why not ask a question or two before you pass judgement on anyone? Or is your only intention to stir the pot in here?

Yes I have an action plan. If Serban doesn't remove the Pin-it option, I'll drop them like I've dropped some others who have made changes I didn't agree with. Violating my copyright is serious stuff and I certainly won't roll over and let them. But is it any of your business what I do or what anyone else does? Mind your own and stop annoying everyone with your repetitive posts. We heard you. "Contributors are to blame." To an extent we are but also our hands are tied and with the big four, they often don't respond to our outcries. In the end our only option is to either contribute or to leave which equates to making some money or losing it all. Decisions to leave an agent isn't so easy to make for people earning a living from this. Some whining is essential otherwise how will they know we don't agree with their decisions that effect us directly? I don't have the time, but if I want to whine for days in here in the hopes they'll listen before I make a financial decision, then I'll whine and you will just have to put up with it.

ShadySue · « **Reply #105 on:** May 21, 2012, 13:13 »

Quote from: grafix04 on May 21, 2012, 12:56

Some whining is essential otherwise how will they know we don't agree with their decisions that effect us directly? I don't have the time, but if I want to whine for days in here in the hopes they'll listen before I make a financial decision, then I'll whine and you will just have to put up with it.

Isn't it ironic that he keeps coming on to whine that he doesn't like to read other people whining.

Yawn.

antistock · « **Reply #106 on:** May 21, 2012, 13:21 »

Quote from: drugal on May 21, 2012, 11:40

I don't think I ever seen this level of denial in my life, except for religious cults. I personally don't mind or care about pinterest or the rest. So, solutions... what you are going to do? Whine here for days without even a hint of any action plan, like the case with Istock? What a waste of time.

and who told you we're all microstockers here ? there are also photojournalists, hobbyists, macrostockers, midstockers, people on assignment, and many here do micro just as a side job.

and about overproduction, i can say there were zilions of images and agencies even 20 yrs ago so where's the point ?
the bar simply goes higher and newbies will find it impossible to get a foot in the door, for anything else if your portfolio is big enough it's still an asset and you still make decent sales.

drugal · « **Reply #107 on:** May 21, 2012, 13:22 »

Quote from: grafix04 on May 21, 2012, 12:56

Quote from: drugal on May 21, 2012, 11:40

Where did I say i'm offering any solution? Kids demanding a magic spell-word that makes the boogieman disappear.... there isn't. The only point I'm pressing here is that this is all the direct consequence of your own actions. It's incredible how not one person can face that. I don't think I ever seen this level of denial in my life, except for religious cults. I personally don't mind or care about pinterest or the rest. So, solutions... what you are going to do? Whine here for days without even a hint of any action plan, like the case with Istock? What a waste of time.

Exactly where have I whined? Rubyroo asked a question and I posted to answer it, to help her out by explaining their TOS which I'm familiar with.

My actions? Do you know me at all or do you simply jump from thread to thread typing the same repetitive nonsense to anyone, regardless of who they are, hoping that your assumption is correct for all. You’re making a bit of a fool of yourself by doing this. Instead of making stupid assumptions, why not ask a question or two before you pass judgement on anyone? Or is your only intention to stir the pot in here?

Yes I have an action plan. If Serban doesn't remove the Pin-it option, I'll drop them like I've dropped some others who have made changes I didn't agree with. Violating my copyright is serious stuff and I certainly won't roll over and let them. But is it any of your business what I do or what anyone else does? Mind your own and stop annoying everyone with your repetitive posts. We heard you. "Contributors are to blame." To an extent we are but also our hands are tied and with the big four, they often don't respond to our outcries. In the end our only option is to either contribute or to leave which equates to making some money or losing it all. Decisions to leave an agent isn't so easy to make for people earning a living from this. Some whining is essential otherwise how will they know we don't agree with their decisions that effect us directly? I don't have the time, but if I want to whine for days in here in the hopes they'll listen before I make a financial decision, then I'll whine and you will just have to put up with it.

wow, thats short memory, actually you were whining to me. You even demanded a solution from me. Thats what each of you did... thats funny

This is a whine thread (as always). Thats ok if that brings ppl together who feel 'offended', to form some common strategy. But it doesn't, it's just whining to infinity, just like with Istock canisters and commission. You dropping out is not a startegy, it won't even be noticed... and pls don't ask me for some magic answer again. I don't mind pineterest, and I don't want to delete flickr, I actually like it. It helped me market myself for IRL comissions.

drugal · « **Reply #108 on:** May 21, 2012, 13:24 »

Quote from: antistock on May 21, 2012, 13:21

Quote from: drugal on May 21, 2012, 11:40
I don't think I ever seen this level of denial in my life, except for religious cults. I personally don't mind or care about pinterest or the rest. So, solutions... what you are going to do? Whine here for days without even a hint of any action plan, like the case with Istock? What a waste of time.

and who told you we're all microstockers here ? there are also photojournalists, hobbyists, macrostockers, midstockers, people on assignment, and many here do micro just as a side job.

and about overproduction, i can say there were zilions of images and agencies even 20 yrs ago so where's the point ?
the bar simply goes higher and newbies will find it impossible to get a foot in the door, for anything else if your portfolio is big enough it's still an asset and you still make decent sales.

I suggest you look at the url.

antistock · « **Reply #109 on:** May 21, 2012, 13:29 »

Quote from: drugal on May 21, 2012, 07:00

Since the internet has become fast and easily accessible to so many, the price of generic images (among many other things) has been on a curve to zero. This is one of the final steps before getting to that pricepoint of zero. You, yes You, endorsed this by creating oversupply by adding your content to mass sale schemes. Theres nothing you can do about it now... and if you think it can't get worse, you are - as always - wrong. They can, and probably will charge you for uploading to gain popularity.

and again, who told you here we all make "generic images" ??

i sold many obscure subjects on RM agencies, you will never find them on micros, nor on Flickr or Pinterest and if you need them you must pay RM price.
actually they're so obscure i wonder how they even find them and this only shows once again that anything can still sell.

drugal · « **Reply #110 on:** May 21, 2012, 14:58 »

Quote from: antistock on May 21, 2012, 13:29

Quote from: drugal on May 21, 2012, 07:00
Since the internet has become fast and easily accessible to so many, the price of generic images (among many other things) has been on a curve to zero. This is one of the final steps before getting to that pricepoint of zero. You, yes You, endorsed this by creating oversupply by adding your content to mass sale schemes. Theres nothing you can do about it now... and if you think it can't get worse, you are - as always - wrong. They can, and probably will charge you for uploading to gain popularity.

and again, who told you here we all make "generic images" ??

i sold many obscure subjects on RM agencies, you will never find them on micros, nor on Flickr or Pinterest and if you need them you must pay RM price.
actually they're so obscure i wonder how they even find them and this only shows once again that anything can still sell.

and that kind of stuff represents the majority of output from ppl coming here, right?

gimme a break...

WarrenPrice · « **Reply #111 on:** May 21, 2012, 15:22 »

Quote from: drugal on May 21, 2012, 14:58

Quote from: antistock on May 21, 2012, 13:29
Quote from: drugal on May 21, 2012, 07:00
Since the internet has become fast and easily accessible to so many, the price of generic images (among many other things) has been on a curve to zero. This is one of the final steps before getting to that pricepoint of zero. You, yes You, endorsed this by creating oversupply by adding your content to mass sale schemes. Theres nothing you can do about it now... and if you think it can't get worse, you are - as always - wrong. They can, and probably will charge you for uploading to gain popularity.

and again, who told you here we all make "generic images" ??

i sold many obscure subjects on RM agencies, you will never find them on micros, nor on Flickr or Pinterest and if you need them you must pay RM price.
actually they're so obscure i wonder how they even find them and this only shows once again that anything can still sell.

and that kind of stuff represents the majority of output from ppl coming here, right? gimme a break...

Good idea. You need to take a break.

lisafx · « **Reply #112 on:** May 21, 2012, 15:26 »

Quote from: WarrenPrice on May 21, 2012, 15:22

Quote from: drugal on May 21, 2012, 14:58
gimme a break...

Good idea. You need to take a break.

+1

ShadySue · « **Reply #113 on:** May 21, 2012, 16:02 »

Quote from: lisafx on May 21, 2012, 15:26

Quote from: WarrenPrice on May 21, 2012, 15:22
Quote from: drugal on May 21, 2012, 14:58
gimme a break...

Good idea. You need to take a break.

+1

+2 Have one on me.

Hummingbird · « **Reply #114 on:** May 21, 2012, 19:37 »

I know I'm new here, but anyone victim of excessive copyright infringements on Pinterest is invited to get in touch with me by way of PM.

In the meantime, for your entertainment:
pinterest-out.blogspot.com

Noodles · « **Reply #115 on:** May 21, 2012, 21:09 »

Quote from: Hummingbird on May 21, 2012, 19:37

I know I'm new here, but anyone victim of excessive copyright infringements on Pinterest is invited to get in touch with me by way of PM.

In the meantime, for your entertainment:
pinterest-out.blogspot.com

hey, I see you are a glass artist - Was the glass background difficult to create?

Hummingbird · « **Reply #116 on:** May 21, 2012, 22:09 »

Quote from: Noodles on May 21, 2012, 21:09

Was the glass background difficult to create?

It's from a free background site.

Noodles · « **Reply #117 on:** May 22, 2012, 01:48 »

Quote from: Hummingbird on May 21, 2012, 22:09

Quote from: Noodles on May 21, 2012, 21:09
Was the glass background difficult to create?

It's from a free background site.

are you sure about that?

Because I might disagree with many on here about Pinterest but I'm completely united with them when it comes to the illegal use of copyrighted material.

drugal · « **Reply #118 on:** May 22, 2012, 03:06 »

Quote from: ShadySue on May 21, 2012, 16:02

Quote from: lisafx on May 21, 2012, 15:26
Quote from: WarrenPrice on May 21, 2012, 15:22
Quote from: drugal on May 21, 2012, 14:58
gimme a break...

Good idea. You need to take a break.

+1

+2 Have one on me.

I took a break, and now I'm back full of positive energy!! freedom, america, f!* yeah!!

grafix04 · « **Reply #119 on:** May 22, 2012, 07:23 »

Quote from: drugal on May 22, 2012, 03:06

Quote from: ShadySue on May 21, 2012, 16:02
Quote from: lisafx on May 21, 2012, 15:26
Quote from: WarrenPrice on May 21, 2012, 15:22
Quote from: drugal on May 21, 2012, 14:58
gimme a break...

Good idea. You need to take a break.

+1

+2 Have one on me.

I took a break, and now I'm back full of positive energy!! freedom, america, f!* yeah!!

Sadly, I don't think they can see your posts anymore. I may as well join them. A few more ignores and you'll be deleting your account and re-emerging with a new one. That's how it goes, right?

lisafx · « **Reply #120 on:** May 22, 2012, 12:16 »

Quote from: grafix04 on May 22, 2012, 07:23

Sadly, I don't think they can see your posts anymore. I may as well join them. A few more ignores and you'll be deleting your account and re-emerging with a new one *(AGAIN). That's how it goes, right?

Wow, I was #2 in the old Ignore parade. Now it's up to 13 in only a couple of days? Impressive record! Let's see if he can top himself next time!

*(AGAIN) added by me.

drugal · « **Reply #121 on:** May 22, 2012, 13:20 »

Quote from: grafix04 on May 22, 2012, 07:23

Quote from: drugal on May 22, 2012, 03:06
Quote from: ShadySue on May 21, 2012, 16:02
Quote from: lisafx on May 21, 2012, 15:26
Quote from: WarrenPrice on May 21, 2012, 15:22
Quote from: drugal on May 21, 2012, 14:58
gimme a break...

Good idea. You need to take a break.

+1

+2 Have one on me.

I took a break, and now I'm back full of positive energy!! freedom, america, f!* yeah!!

Sadly, I don't think they can see your posts anymore. I may as well join them. A few more ignores and you'll be deleting your account and re-emerging with a new one. That's how it goes, right?

Nah, I don't care that much at all. I made my point pretty clearly that the place is loaded with ignorant ppl, and they keep providing the proof for it with their ignore buttons. That ignorance got them to their constant-whiner level, and they keep pressing it. Good luck

grafix04 · « **Reply #122 on:** May 22, 2012, 19:54 »

Quote from: lisafx on May 22, 2012, 12:16

Quote from: grafix04 on May 22, 2012, 07:23

Sadly, I don't think they can see your posts anymore. I may as well join them. A few more ignores and you'll be deleting your account and re-emerging with a new one *(AGAIN). That's how it goes, right?

Wow, I was #2 in the old Ignore parade. Now it's up to 13 in only a couple of days? Impressive record! Let's see if he can top himself next time!

*(AGAIN) added by me.

I was coin tossing on whether I should reply to this post. On the one hand I wanted to have a laugh and on the other, I wanted to be silent so he can disappear from existence earlier. Laughs got the better of me

digitalexpressionimages · « **Reply #123 on:** May 23, 2012, 07:14 »

It just occurred to me...the share button on DT may explain why my sales have taken a dive. Since the pics are free on pinterest, who needs to buy them?

Tabimura · « **Reply #124 on:** May 23, 2012, 07:38 »

And it's not only DT. The "share" or "pin it" button is also on 123RF, Depositphotos and Photodune. How about them?

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