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« Reply #25 on: July 17, 2010, 02:25 »
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Ebay let you have more than 1 account, so could you win an auction for all the items that shouldn't be on there, not pay for them and leave negative feedback mentioning the copyright abuse?


« Reply #26 on: July 18, 2010, 13:47 »
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Ebay let you have more than 1 account, so could you win an auction for all the items that shouldn't be on there, not pay for them and leave negative feedback mentioning the copyright abuse?

there are a limited number of reasons ebay allows multiple accts - this tactic is definitely not one of them, and easily spotted by ebay.  in addition, if you dont pay, that acct gets flagged, AND no fdbk is allowed on that transaction

the best way to get items removed is first to report them directly to ebay [a low % chance], or better, have the copyright owner contact ebay

s


« Reply #28 on: July 20, 2010, 09:43 »
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The best thing to do in this situation would be to bypass ebay and contact the recent buyers who left feedback and provide them with evidence that the stock images have been ripped off from the microstock site.  I would explain that they need to purchase a licence to use any of those images or they could find themselves in trouble.  They would either 1) purchase a licence for any image they really want, or 2) contact ebay themselves asking for a refund. 

It's probably more likely that option 2 will occur and ebay will be forced to give the buyer back their money.  Eventually the seller will find it's not feasible to sell the item there having to pay fees for items that didn't sell.  If ebay get enough complaints and have to give back enough refunds, they'll then close the seller's account and their 100% rating will be gone.

« Reply #29 on: July 20, 2010, 10:02 »
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... 2) contact ebay themselves asking for a refund. 

It's probably more likely that option 2 will occur and ebay will be forced to give the buyer back their money.  Eventually the seller will find it's not feasible to sell the item there having to pay fees for items that didn't sell.  If ebay get enough complaints and have to give back enough refunds, they'll then close the seller's account and their 100% rating will be gone.

I can tell you one thing: ebay will never ever pay damages for IP theft. Not on such a small scale like in our cases.

I know ebay had to pay damages before to some brand. It was a handbag company or something. That was large scale copyright infringement.

For pictures, posters, belt buckles, stickers you'll be barking at the wrong tree.

I'm totally on the same side with you, that ebay should control the items being offered on their site but their terms state otherwise.
It's not ebay's responsibility to verify the authenticity of each item in every listing. That's up to the buyer to decide and if in doubt - do not bid!

I would have made so much money with the strategy you are proposing, ebay would be broke within a month if everyone put in a claim for copyright infringement. LOL.

As with many things online these days - it ain't going to happen. Unfortunately.

« Reply #30 on: July 20, 2010, 10:17 »
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I don't agree with you there.

Ebay's policy on IP...

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How eBay Protects Intellectual Property (VeRO)
We are committed to protecting the intellectual property rights of third parties and to providing our members with a safe place to trade. We created the Verified Rights Owner (VeRO) Program so that intellectual property owners could easily report listings that infringe their rights.

If you are a Verified Rights Owner and want to report a listing issue, see Reporting Intellectual Property Infringements.

To avoid creating listings that would infringe on intellectual property rights:

Take eBay's tutorial on Intellectual Property Policies and VeRO.

Read eBay's Guidelines for Creating Legally Compliant Listings.

Review list of VeRO Program Participant About Me pages. Many VeRO Program participants have created an About Me page that contains information about their policies protecting their intellectual property rights.

Do not use another members pictures or descriptions without their permission. For more information, see Item Description and Picture Theft.

Listings removed through VeRO

If your listing was removed because of a breach of the VeRO program and you believe that your listing was removed in error, eBay suggests that you first try to contact the rights owner directly. (The email notifying you that your listing had been removed should have included the rights owner's email address.) Only the rights owner understands their products and intellectual property rights. If the rights owner agrees that they made a mistake, have them email eBay and eBay will allow you to re-list your item.

Avoid having your listing removed through VeRO in the future. Review the list of VeRO Program Participant About Me pages. Participants have created an About Me page that contains information designed to help you understand why they requested the removal of your listing.

How eBay helps to ensure that listings arent mistakenly removed. A rights owner reporting through VeRO must be registered through VeRO before reporting items to us. Rights owners sign legally binding documents when reporting items to eBay.

How your personal information may be released. eBay will never give out your credit card information, except in rare cases when required by a court, or law enforcement agency. However, eBays Privacy Policy states, "we can (and you authorise us to) disclose your User ID, name, street address, city, state, postcode, country, phone number, email, and company name to eBay VeRO Program participants as we in our sole discretion believe necessary or appropriate in connection with an investigation of fraud, intellectual property infringement, piracy, or other unlawful activity."

Do you understand the rights owners claim, understand eBays policies, and still believe that the rights owner made a mistake in reporting your listing? If so, please email us.

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Ebay almost always protects the buyer in a payment dispute regarding anything.  I think it's worth a shot if you're worried about it.  It might get a buyer purchasing a licence or it would at least discourage them to use the images.  I'm pretty sure they'll ask for a refund and it's likely they'll receive it. 

« Reply #31 on: July 20, 2010, 10:52 »
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I don't agree with you there.

Ebay's policy on IP...

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Ebay almost always protects the buyer in a payment dispute regarding anything.  I think it's worth a shot if you're worried about it.  It might get a buyer purchasing a licence or it would at least discourage them to use the images.  I'm pretty sure they'll ask for a refund and it's likely they'll receive it. 

I'm a Vero member and I've been dealing with them many times.

The regular process of an auction/listing will be protected by ebay/Paypal. That won't include IP infringement cases, I'm pretty sure.

But since you mentioned it, I will contact them and make a claim for the recently found illegal listings and ask for my money.

That's cool. Then I won't even have to do Microstock anymore. I can just live off of the damages from ebay now  ;D

« Reply #32 on: July 20, 2010, 21:33 »
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the ebay VERO system is either a CYA scam or a joke - take your pick.  basically ebay collects their fees and lets the disutants work it out; many buyers dont care whether the images are protected or not [this came up recently  in acase where scanned versions of copyrighted material basically destroyed an entire collectibles category]

i've been a seller on ebay for over 11 years now, and ther basic atttitue is the buyer is always right , and screw the small seller;
it's becoeme a very hostile environement; otoh pirates an prosper thru loopholes or lax monitoring

for awhile,i t was possible to sell indiv or small collections of images for digital download; this was a great alternative to the MS low royalties, ut ebsy banned these auctions because some few people were buying cheap downloads in order to boost their feedback ratings; so essentially ebay destroyed the forest to eliminate a few minor pests

steve

« Reply #33 on: July 21, 2010, 00:01 »
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start a facebook page, publishing this on facebook, saying ebay is evil and partner of piracy and squeeze the artist's earning..support piracy.

just spread it..maybe it will be in CNN or some channels, maybe they feel it is too negative images to their business..

many people wants to support it and help it..make a petition. It used to be a parade on street, but now is so digital..and i will click the page to support it.

« Reply #34 on: July 23, 2010, 16:07 »
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start a facebook page, publishing this on facebook, saying ebay is evil and partner of piracy and squeeze the artist's earning..support piracy.

just spread it..maybe it will be in CNN or some channels, maybe they feel it is too negative images to their business..

many people wants to support it and help it..make a petition. It used to be a parade on street, but now is so digital..and i will click the page to support it.


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