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« on: January 19, 2010, 17:24 »
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Hi All,

 I found our images being resold by another party on Flickr for wall paper is that allowed?. They even changed one shot just a little bit by adding some window blinds. One Photo is of my two dogs laying on my couch in my living room, so I am pretty positive it is mine. Found it through Tin Eye.

Best,
Jonathan


« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2010, 17:27 »
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I started a new topic for this.



I am not totally sure I understand what is going on.  Can you give a link?

« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2010, 19:11 »
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Hi Leaf,

 Yea here is a link to my Macro photo from Getty on Flickr that I did not place there and it is being sold as wall paper by another party. I didn't think this was allowed, the resale of images under another's name. I might be wrong but it doesn't seem right to me.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/devmalya2003/4081712053/#

Best,
Jonathan

« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2010, 19:23 »
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Hi All,

 I zoomed in and found nother name attached to my image on the side of the image. It is www.santabanta.com You might want to take a look at these guys as well. Maybe clearly in their rights but it is news to me.

Best,
Jonathan

« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2010, 19:32 »
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I am in the process of downloading all the License Agreements for the sites I upload to. I am through IS and SS and neither one of these sites, Standard OR Enhanced license, allows the posting of an image and allowing others to download it, whether they are selling the image or not. It is considered redistributing. IF a person purchase a photo with the Standard license, they may post it on a website up to 800x600 pixels. Anything else goes to an Enhanced license, but allowing others to download the digital image is forbidden.

If I find any other Agreements that are different, I will post.

« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2010, 19:37 »
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Thanks CD,

 I am in discussion with Getty right now but everyone in NY has gone home so I will find out more about it in the morning and make a post. Here is a copy of my shot. I thik you can all see it is mine. That is Maggie and Major on my green couch.


LSD72

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« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2010, 20:10 »
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Look at that persons collection. Anne Geddes, Nat Geo. I wonder if the person even owns a camera.

« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2010, 20:26 »
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I have been through the Licensing Agreements of IS, SS, StockXpert, DT and BigStock.

I am not an attorney and I am not giving legal advice.

I have read all the paragraphs regarding the posting of our images on any other website and allowing downloads, and none of the sites, in their standard, EL or Special Licenses, allow for the redistribution of an image. Also, if an image is posted on a website, it must be smaller than 800x600.

I feel certain that these images we have found on flickr are against all licensing agreements.

donding

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« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2010, 20:28 »
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I'm going to post a comment on one of his other photos praising him about being this great photographer and see if he bites. I'm going to try to find out how he got these images. Johathan the one with the dogs is in no doubt your's. Man these people are getting balls...no pun intended
« Last Edit: January 19, 2010, 20:49 by donding »

donding

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« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2010, 20:32 »
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« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2010, 22:42 »
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You are all putting too much effort into this. Just sue the b@tch and Flickr, since they can know this isn't genuine stuff with all his Ferraris. You are all far too friendly. In a while, he will take it down, and then start all over again, under another nick. Flickr will just smile. They won't smile if a microstockers guild comes up with several infringements in a row, asking damages.

My last infringement was on the website of a (ultra left) political party during Belgium's last general elections. I just wrote the guy that I requested 10,000 euro in damages. He quickly took the image down, adding a note why I reacted that "sour". Of course I was in no position to sue him, but I sure raised hell with his competitors.
Proof was gone though.
« Last Edit: January 19, 2010, 22:45 by FD-amateur »

RacePhoto

« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2010, 01:09 »
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Only on Flickr? Who really owns these and what's the real site, or are some real and only the flickr page is the copy? I'm kind of lost with this being in so many different places at different sizes?



I can remove this at any time if it's a problem having the group from the Tineye search on this forum.

« Reply #12 on: January 20, 2010, 01:15 »
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Hi Leaf,

 Yea here is a link to my Macro photo from Getty on Flickr that I did not place there and it is being sold as wall paper by another party. I didn't think this was allowed, the resale of images under another's name. I might be wrong but it doesn't seem right to me.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/devmalya2003/4081712053/#

Best,
Jonathan


Did you send Flickr the form letter claiming violation of copyright? There's a link on the site (I've done this several times and they are very prompt in getting the content down). Do be careful to fill out exactly the wording they ask for - the first time I changed the statement about having a good faith belief that I held the copyright to the work. I said I did hold it - it was so obvious there was no belief involved. They e-mailed me back after a day or two saying it was a legal requirement to state that I had a good faith belief - so I did :)

« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2010, 01:16 »
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Watch out for your ethnic profiling of .ru sites or you'll get near-banned ;-)

« Reply #14 on: January 20, 2010, 02:43 »
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Hi all,

 Thanks for the advice. I wanted to contact Getty first since they represent the image and have more clout or time than I want to spend chasing some ghost. All your input has really helped. I will find out more tomorrow and fill you in. I saw the Anne Geddes stuff as well.
 I would think that Flickr are the ones to go after, they are allowing the vehicle for these situations to arise without policing them. I don't want to sue Joe Blow who has nothing I want some cash if I am going to bother, Flickr should take some responsibility for this, if it truly is ran through Flickr.

Best,
Jonathan

« Reply #15 on: January 20, 2010, 08:00 »
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Do be careful to fill out exactly the wording they ask for - the first time I changed the statement about having a good faith belief that I held the copyright to the work. I said I did hold it - it was so obvious there was no belief involved. They e-mailed me back after a day or two saying it was a legal requirement to state that I had a good faith belief - so I did

I found this to be true as well. Best to copy their list of things needing answers directly and then answering right after the question.

Jonathon, I think that is a good approach, contacting Getty. At least with the Anne Geddes stuff, her name is still on there. The person isn't trying to make it look like they own the copyright. Doesn't make it right though. And I know for a fact Joe McNally, a photographer for National Geographic, also sells his images RM through Getty. I didn't check to see if any of those NG images are his, but I am pretty sure all of those photographers would not like free images being distributed this way.

I agree, flickr/yahoo needs to be more on top of what gets posted and by whom.
« Last Edit: January 20, 2010, 08:54 by cclapper »

« Reply #16 on: January 20, 2010, 08:31 »
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I know Flickr very well, been registered with them since 4 years, and I can testify that they really do not check what people upload because the community is too huge to execute a quality or copyright control on every member... as deviantart or other photosharing network, included stock agencies I'd say.

Anyway I dealt with them regarding some copyright (CR) infringement and I have to say that they are very open and understanding in blocking people and closing accounts of those who are committing a CR crime.

At the bottom of the Flickr site, in every page, you can find a link "Copyright/IP Policy" where you can report your problem. Be sure they will act the soonest they can, since they're very sensitive in that field.

Ok, the guy can start another account and do it all over again but if his/her IP is blacklisted he won't be able to do that again on Flickr at least.

« Reply #17 on: January 20, 2010, 09:52 »
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I know Flickr very well, been registered with them since 4 years, and I can testify that they really do not check what people upload because the community is too huge to execute a quality or copyright control on every member... as deviantart or other photosharing network, included stock agencies I'd say.

Anyway I dealt with them regarding some copyright (CR) infringement and I have to say that they are very open and understanding in blocking people and closing accounts of those who are committing a CR crime.

At the bottom of the Flickr site, in every page, you can find a link "Copyright/IP Policy" where you can report your problem. Be sure they will act the soonest they can, since they're very sensitive in that field.

Ok, the guy can start another account and do it all over again but if his/her IP is blacklisted he won't be able to do that again on Flickr at least.
Hi Giuseppe,
My experience is opposite, I filed out "Copyright/IP Policy", I sent them email, I sent them letter but they never respond. Guy who is displaying my image under his name doesn't answer either.

Kone

« Reply #18 on: January 20, 2010, 10:04 »
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Hi Kone!
hmmm sorry to hear that... sounds very strange.

Could you please give me the link of your original images and then the link of the same in the thief's flickr account?
I  want to write a report to the yahoo copyright police as well, just to lend a hand.

Maybe it's just a matter of time but they will get back to you, I'm pretty sure.

« Reply #19 on: January 20, 2010, 10:25 »
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Kone, I could do so as well if you list the links.

And Jonathon, if you need help as well, please ask.

« Reply #20 on: January 20, 2010, 16:20 »
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Hi All,

 I found our images being resold by another party on Flickr for wall paper is that allowed?. They even changed one shot just a little bit by adding some window blinds. One Photo is of my two dogs laying on my couch in my living room, so I am pretty positive it is mine. Found it through Tin Eye.

Best,
Jonathan


Jonathan,

I have done a TinEye search for most of the images in this Flickr portfolio in case the search results are useful. Please bear in mind that some of the links in the results may have expired and the images may no longer be on the site we actually crawled. It seems that the images in this Flickr account may not have been created by the person who is posting them (National Geographic anyone?) :)
Anyway here you go:
The entire baby and pug images seem to be coming from this album:
http://www.urbanpug.com/pictures/main.php?g2_itemId=2002&g2_page=4 [nofollow]
His entire set is here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/devmalya2003/sets/72157622659660599/ [nofollow]
And the TinEye search result that led me to Martine's album is here:
http://www.tineye.com/search/45c81646947ab7f62ea6edd1c2c753bbf26302d5 [nofollow] the second search result gets to her

The entire motivational poster set is here http://www.flickr.com/photos/devmalya2003/sets/72157622754959392/ [nofollow] and the TinEye results are here (these are permalinks so they won't expire):
http://www.tineye.com/search/29251c673342cd89687a3b13d89d6485940e7c55 [nofollow]
http://www.tineye.com/search/81b0d070a7026c808bebb9e8c7c357b1d9c0f9ad [nofollow]
http://www.tineye.com/search/b2867972d1ea4d309ffd6a69ce4c26ae5524e451 [nofollow] (all posters.com matches)
http://www.tineye.com/search/616528bf945f349b266d8ffe94e881986dd540d5 [nofollow]
http://www.tineye.com/search/2e936f3daa24d2d71e3d8018376e60f0b8234543 [nofollow]
http://www.tineye.com/search/3f65b2f56109b622f4b5a2b30237542f4f25fca7 [nofollow]
http://www.tineye.com/search/40200a4abcc6681e1f9703a03e2e768686aebc95 [nofollow]
http://www.tineye.com/search/18425ff6ff626479424905dd9e99c29eaa213ca9 [nofollow]
http://www.tineye.com/search/5218671c385cd71fc9a35e5e0a1983ed2d517372 [nofollow]
http://www.tineye.com/search/891c1e9d65c31f3d9be8d2fea317a956fd7fe870 [nofollow]
http://www.tineye.com/search/23777e97925d9983e35c09cc9333c3e57cf0978c [nofollow] (a lot of results for this one)
http://www.tineye.com/search/36b50ea107e96272540b4922fabae761303e432b [nofollow]
http://www.tineye.com/search/414d788818043207b85867bfeb47d38d21ff50e7 [nofollow] (all posters.com matches)
http://www.tineye.com/search/5c8fc63a43b0cd28fc8ed8c57634d16a3cd1d3cf [nofollow] (all posters.com matches)
http://www.tineye.com/search/ae2731d19c728ff066fbe5c602433fd51926190f [nofollow]
http://www.tineye.com/search/9fe1324bc0cb024c731df035a28336abd3c0287a?sort=score&order=desc [nofollow]
http://www.tineye.com/search/d222a369a2579689a30f8699746075372481f8aa [nofollow]

Not sure if these links are useful at all but there you have them. I have more if you need them.

« Reply #21 on: January 20, 2010, 16:28 »
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Thanks I'll surely take some actions against this art thief later on.
Be sure!

« Reply #22 on: January 20, 2010, 17:35 »
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WOW Leila,

 Some great investigation work. We have turned it over to Getty and they are all over it. A good friend and editor of mine is taking this one himself and finding out what is up. I trust him a great deal and I am sure he will find the answers. Stay tuned and I will let you know as soon as he gets back to me. Thanks again everyone for the support. This is where this site is really helpful in bringing us together as a team.

Best,
Jonathan

« Reply #23 on: January 20, 2010, 17:38 »
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Hi Kone!
hmmm sorry to hear that... sounds very strange.

Could you please give me the link of your original images and then the link of the same in the thief's flickr account?
I  want to write a report to the yahoo copyright police as well, just to lend a hand.

Maybe it's just a matter of time but they will get back to you, I'm pretty sure.


Hi cclaper
Hi Giuseppe

I am sorry for late response

Link for my original image is
http://www.istockphoto.com/stock-photo-3879071-beer.php

And link for stolen image is
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cafecathi/3839201933#

Thanks for your help

« Reply #24 on: January 20, 2010, 17:40 »
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Which agencies beside Getty use TinEye? It could never find any of my images besides IS.

« Reply #25 on: January 20, 2010, 17:59 »
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Ok I've reported the issue to the Yahoo Copyright Police

Hi Kone!
hmmm sorry to hear that... sounds very strange.

Could you please give me the link of your original images and then the link of the same in the thief's flickr account?
I  want to write a report to the yahoo copyright police as well, just to lend a hand.

Maybe it's just a matter of time but they will get back to you, I'm pretty sure.


Hi cclaper
Hi Giuseppe

I am sorry for late response

Link for my original image is
http://www.istockphoto.com/stock-photo-3879071-beer.php

And link for stolen image is
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cafecathi/3839201933#

Thanks for your help

RacePhoto

« Reply #26 on: January 20, 2010, 18:07 »
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Hi Kone!
hmmm sorry to hear that... sounds very strange.

Could you please give me the link of your original images and then the link of the same in the thief's flickr account?
I  want to write a report to the yahoo copyright police as well, just to lend a hand.

Maybe it's just a matter of time but they will get back to you, I'm pretty sure.


Hi cclaper
Hi Giuseppe

I am sorry for late response

Link for my original image is
http://www.istockphoto.com/stock-photo-3879071-beer.php

And link for stolen image is
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cafecathi/3839201933#

Thanks for your help


This one too, same photo, just another Flickr thief.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/44787562@N02/4178115893/#

« Reply #27 on: January 20, 2010, 18:08 »
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I just went to the link Kone provided for the stolen image and I get:

This member is no longer active on Flickr.

Looks like we nailed another one.

« Reply #28 on: January 20, 2010, 18:12 »
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This one too, same photo, just another Flickr thief.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/44787562@N02/4178115893/#


I just posted a comment at the bottom of this thief's page.

« Reply #29 on: January 20, 2010, 18:18 »
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This one too, same photo, just another Flickr thief.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/44787562@N02/4178115893/#


I just posted a comment at the bottom of this thief's page.


I left a comment as well

« Reply #30 on: January 20, 2010, 18:49 »
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As laudable as your efforts are they are a mere drop in the ocean compared to images available the file sharing sites, which have been going since the 90s one way or another.

I'm sure most folks here will have their work freely distributed on them, I know I have, for example there are 5619 pages and counting on just one site, heroturko.org , and nothing seems to have been able to be done about them. :-\

« Reply #31 on: January 20, 2010, 18:55 »
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As laudable as your efforts are they are a mere drop in the ocean compared to images available the file sharing sites, which have been going since the 90s one way or another.

I'm sure most folks here will have their work freely distributed on them, I know I have, for example there are 5619 pages and counting on just one site, heroturko.org , and nothing seems to have been able to be done about them. :-\

Good point __ but why not? In particular with Istock's exclusive content, like yours and many others, why is the issue not being addressed? Heroturko openly boasts about the sources of many of the images.

« Reply #32 on: January 20, 2010, 18:57 »
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As laudable as your efforts are they are a mere drop in the ocean compared to images available the file sharing sites, which have been going since the 90s one way or another.

I'm sure most folks here will have their work freely distributed on them, I know I have, for example there are 5619 pages and counting on just one site, heroturko.org , and nothing seems to have been able to be done about them. :-\

Very true... not so many weeks ago I was contacted by a photographer who's a fan of my works because he noticed on Heroturko a collection of my 360 equirectangular panoramas freely distributed on that site. Luckily I got to take them down but the problem is that heroturko is just a "Mirror" that offers links to pirate files uploaded on uploading-servers. Quite an endless war but as long as I can win some battle to save my work I think that's still what's worth fighting for.

RacePhoto

« Reply #33 on: January 20, 2010, 20:55 »
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I just went to the link Kone provided for the stolen image and I get:

This member is no longer active on Flickr.

Looks like we nailed another one.


Sure but Kone and others had been reporting it five weeks ago. Someone finally took notice or Giuseppe knows the right buttons to push and get results. Thank him. Maybe people with a pro account get noticed.  ;D

Unfortunately the photo is out in the wild. Some may be legit buyers and some are Kone's own shots on agency pages. Makes you wonder doesn't it?

http://www.tineye.com/search/0722437ac1fa22f1c9053cf0b142040268a2ebbc
« Last Edit: January 20, 2010, 21:12 by RacePhoto »

« Reply #34 on: January 20, 2010, 20:56 »
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This one too, same photo, just another Flickr thief.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/44787562@N02/4178115893/#


I just posted a comment at the bottom of this thief's page.


I left a comment as well


Thanks again

Kone

« Reply #35 on: January 21, 2010, 02:11 »
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My pleasure to help!
I told you I know Flickr very well  ;)

« Reply #36 on: January 21, 2010, 02:22 »
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Ok Kone, I've noticed that the other guy with your photo is still active so I reported the CR infringement to Yahoo as well... we should see the same results for that as well in short time.
 :P

« Reply #37 on: January 21, 2010, 08:00 »
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As laudable as your efforts are they are a mere drop in the ocean compared to images available the file sharing sites, which have been going since the 90s one way or another.

I'm sure most folks here will have their work freely distributed on them, I know I have, for example there are 5619 pages and counting on just one site, heroturko.org , and nothing seems to have been able to be done about them.

Have you found a best-selling image of yours on one of these sites? Maybe that's the difference. Once it happens to you, the threads that show on the board have a little more interest.

It's not that I never cared before...with having to work a full-time job to pay a mortgage, I don't usually have all day to sit and cruise the boards and play detective, even for my own work. Sometimes the threads float to the bottom before I even have a chance to see them. You can believe the Image Sleuth section is going to be noticed by me a little more now.

In the past couple of days I have spent hours on this, hours that could have been used to make real money. But this is costing all of us money, too. If someone needs help, you can be sure I will do my best to help and I would hope others would help me, as they have just done.

Maybe it just takes everyone looking out and helping everyone else on this matter.

OK off my high horse now.  :D

« Reply #38 on: January 21, 2010, 09:05 »
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Ok Kone, I've noticed that the other guy with your photo is still active so I reported the CR infringement to Yahoo as well... we should see the same results for that as well in short time.
 :P

Hi,
What is wrong with all of those people?!?

Thanks again

Kone

« Reply #39 on: January 21, 2010, 09:19 »
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As laudable as your efforts are they are a mere drop in the ocean compared to images available the file sharing sites, which have been going since the 90s one way or another.

I'm sure most folks here will have their work freely distributed on them, I know I have, for example there are 5619 pages and counting on just one site, heroturko.org , and nothing seems to have been able to be done about them.

Have you found a best-selling image of yours on one of these sites? Maybe that's the difference. Once it happens to you, the threads that show on the board have a little more interest.

It's not that I never cared before...with having to work a full-time job to pay a mortgage, I don't usually have all day to sit and cruise the boards and play detective, even for my own work. Sometimes the threads float to the bottom before I even have a chance to see them. You can believe the Image Sleuth section is going to be noticed by me a little more now.

In the past couple of days I have spent hours on this, hours that could have been used to make real money. But this is costing all of us money, too. If someone needs help, you can be sure I will do my best to help and I would hope others would help me, as they have just done.

Maybe it just takes everyone looking out and helping everyone else on this matter.

OK off my high horse now.  :D

Hi cclapper,
That is the way we should all do, this is where this forum is really helpful, as team we are more powerful. ;D

Kone

« Reply #40 on: January 21, 2010, 09:54 »
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Ok Kone, I've noticed that the other guy with your photo is still active so I reported the CR infringement to Yahoo as well... we should see the same results for that as well in short time.
 :P


I just did a small TinEye search on this person's portfolio http://www.flickr.com/photos/44787562@N02/ [nofollow] with the infringing beer photo here http://www.flickr.com/photos/44787562@N02/4178115893/# [nofollow] and I also noticed a photo that looked very familiar: a field of lavender (it is the French in me!). I may be wrong but I suspect it is a copyright violation as well as it is an iStockphoto image. The original image with the following caption: "Image shows a lavender field in the region of Provence, southern France, photographed on a windy afternoon " is here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/44787562@N02/4280278563/# [nofollow] the TinEye search with an iStock match is here:
http://www.tineye.com/search/647ee35890119d8abc97919c2cb44e561814a551 [nofollow]

As I see billions of images, I noticed a few images in that portfolio that are totally out of place but I don't have time to do all the searches... sorry guys!

« Reply #41 on: January 21, 2010, 09:57 »
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I noticed a few images I recognized from istock. I have emailed the owners to let them know.

« Reply #42 on: January 21, 2010, 09:57 »
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you are right, I already reported the lavander image as well this morning (Italian time) but the whole stream is stuffed with images from istock... I wonder why? It makes no sense.
Anyway I hope they will close that account.

donding

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« Reply #43 on: January 21, 2010, 10:33 »
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You'd think flickr would be more strict about this, but I guess they have no control over who places what on there if the person says they are the copyright holder. It seems to be happening more and more.

« Reply #44 on: January 21, 2010, 10:49 »
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You'd think flickr would be more strict about this, but I guess they have no control over who places what on there if the person says they are the copyright holder. It seems to be happening more and more.

You know better than me that patroling over a community so vast like Flickr's is nearly impossible.
But I can tell you that they are strict when it comes to CR issues.
If you want to really report something, it's useless to write to the owner or to the staff, the only way to get it right is writing to the Yahoo staff via the link at the bottom of the page "Copyright/IP Policy". Anyway you can always report the problem to the staff just to make sure you have tried all the possible ways.

donding

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« Reply #45 on: January 21, 2010, 10:55 »
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You'd think flickr would be more strict about this, but I guess they have no control over who places what on there if the person says they are the copyright holder. It seems to be happening more and more.

You know better than me that patroling over a community so vast like Flickr's is nearly impossible.
But I can tell you that they are strict when it comes to CR issues.
If you want to really report something, it's useless to write to the owner or to the staff, the only way to get it right is writing to the Yahoo staff via the link at the bottom of the page "Copyright/IP Policy". Anyway you can always report the problem to the staff just to make sure you have tried all the possible ways.
I will try to remember that in case I need to use it in the future. Hopefully I won't.

« Reply #46 on: January 21, 2010, 15:15 »
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Which agencies beside Getty use TinEye? It could never find any of my images besides IS.


A few. You will start to see more results soon:
http://www.tineye.com/search/ac6f974a2e2576c20d3d8ec407cb05ee473dc997 [nofollow]

« Reply #47 on: January 21, 2010, 16:45 »
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As laudable as your efforts are they are a mere drop in the ocean compared to images available the file sharing sites, which have been going since the 90s one way or another.

I'm sure most folks here will have their work freely distributed on them, I know I have, for example there are 5619 pages and counting on just one site, heroturko.org , and nothing seems to have been able to be done about them.

Have you found a best-selling image of yours on one of these sites? Maybe that's the difference. Once it happens to you, the threads that show on the board have a little more interest.

It's not that I never cared before...with having to work a full-time job to pay a mortgage, I don't usually have all day to sit and cruise the boards and play detective, even for my own work. Sometimes the threads float to the bottom before I even have a chance to see them. You can believe the Image Sleuth section is going to be noticed by me a little more now.

In the past couple of days I have spent hours on this, hours that could have been used to make real money. But this is costing all of us money, too. If someone needs help, you can be sure I will do my best to help and I would hope others would help me, as they have just done.

Maybe it just takes everyone looking out and helping everyone else on this matter.

OK off my high horse now.  :D

Yes I have found more than one of my best selling images packaged up with similars from others in one nice downloadable themed chunk on HeroTurko. But that is but one portal to a spiders web of mine of countless thousands of such bundles including many complete discs from getty and corbis etc etc. That they have not been able to stop this over many many years would indicate to me that I would be wasting my time trying to do anything about it. Before rapidshare and torrents from the mid nineties onwards every photodisc, Digital Vision etc. etc. cd was available through hotline and limewire or a few bucks to someone in the far east.

I have to report that there is a whole generation that believes that digital files are free game. Where I work, in a small design agency, we take on student work placements and their personal laptops are crammed full of unpaid for software, videos, images, songs, fonts etc. Like it or not, like shoplifting  and other forms of 'shrinkage' this is a cost of doing business in the digital world.

Wearing another of my hats as a manager of a moderately successful semi pro rock band that cost of doing business is so high that it's nigh on making it unsustainable to record anymore. Reviewers leak albums out before their release date and they are available as torrents that all but the most dedicated fans will help themselves to before the official stuff gets out. To add insult to injury many torrent sites will note the number of downloads.

The depth of this festering wound really does mean that the abuses on flicker, stolen images on others portfolios etc. that can be addressed are just scratching the surface. Fine if you do get a result, but in the micro world cost-benefit-wise are you really gaining anything?

And in the macro world when it comes to getty tracking down a misused image with its crawler and seeking thousands from the often unwitting small business owner who used one of the aformentioned students to design a website does the photographer get his commission?

« Reply #48 on: January 21, 2010, 16:53 »
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From my experience Getty are pretty good at chasing down unauthorized usage...and yes, they do our percentage of the licensing fee that the offender pays...



And in the macro world when it comes to getty tracking down a misused image with its crawler and seeking thousands from the often unwitting small business owner who used one of the aformentioned students to design a website does the photographer get his commission?

« Reply #49 on: January 21, 2010, 17:03 »
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From my experience Getty are pretty good at chasing down unauthorized usage...and yes, they do our percentage of the licensing fee that the offender pays...



And in the macro world when it comes to getty tracking down a misused image with its crawler and seeking thousands from the often unwitting small business owner who used one of the aformentioned students to design a website does the photographer get his commission?
Well that's something then  :)

« Reply #50 on: January 24, 2010, 11:47 »
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Hi Leaf,

 Yea here is a link to my Macro photo from Getty on Flickr that I did not place there and it is being sold as wall paper by another party. I didn't think this was allowed, the resale of images under another's name. I might be wrong but it doesn't seem right to me.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/devmalya2003/4081712053/#

Best,
Jonathan


When I go to this link now, it says This Member is No Longer Active

Jonathon, did Getty help you get this resolved?


 

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