Quote from: bizair on June 20, 2011, 19:12

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I'll amend the sentence to "Likewise, I didn't suggest that we are "popping" out work.". Seems to be a slight inflection on the same point though.

I know... This thread has been ruined.

I hope so.  It seems to me that what was once a great forum for exchange of ideas and help has now degenerated into a forum full of whining about what life useful be, and asinine solutions to the woes of the stock world.  My only purpose in posting the way I did was to attempt to get people to reflect on the nonsense now abundant on the forum.  Somehow, I don't think i'll have much luck. 
I'm sorry if my approach rubs some people the wrong way.  But sometimes though things just have to be said - a bit akin to being hit over the head with a piece of 2x4, it gets attention to where it should be.

Quote from: bizair on June 20, 2011, 19:12

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I'll amend the sentence to "Likewise, I didn't suggest that we are "popping" out work.". Seems to be a slight inflection on the same point though.

I know... This thread has been ruined.

The thread turned to poop because the issue is solved.  They need to purchase an EL licence.  There's nothing more to really say about it... apart from poop.

I also blame leaf and his filter. 

"Actually the only person I see whining in this thread was you.  Everyone else was just trying to determine if this person was using her images legally and what type of licence they would need to use it

Your approach was hardly like "a piece of 2x4".  It was more like a "mozzie" that annoys you for a while till you squash it.  Then you forget about it "


Seems to have got a lot of attention from you.  Mission accomplished.

Quote from: sjlocke on June 16, 2011, 06:58

I'd argue they need an items for resale EL.

I'd agree to the same but don't know if they pay every time they do a painted photo or if there's a term for use and they have to renew every so often. Or if one EL does it for eternity?

Lets say they are honest and have never made a sale, then they owe the payment for the license when they make a sale. Maybe they never will? I really don't understand the site, it looks like someone running things through photoshop and glicee printing with "painting" software? But I didn't read every detail.

The EL is for 'items for sale, limited run', but you'd need to read the t&c to find out how they define a limited run.
If they were honest, they'd pay for the license when they offered it for sale. It's a risk like the one we take when we make and prepare shots and put them up as stock: many never sell.

Quote from: RacePhoto on June 20, 2011, 23:05

Quote from: sjlocke on June 16, 2011, 06:58

I'd argue they need an items for resale EL.

I'd agree to the same but don't know if they pay every time they do a painted photo or if there's a term for use and they have to renew every so often. Or if one EL does it for eternity?

Lets say they are honest and have never made a sale, then they owe the payment for the license when they make a sale. Maybe they never will? I really don't understand the site, it looks like someone running things through photoshop and glicee printing with "painting" software? But I didn't read every detail.

The EL is for 'items for sale, limited run', but you'd need to read the t&c to find out how they define a limited run.
If they were honest, they'd pay for the license when they offered it for sale. It's a risk like the one we take when we make and prepare shots and put them up as stock: many never sell.

I thought this came up with another place where they offered the subject images and when they sold one, they paid for the licanse. The debate was over wheteher they could display them for sale, without a license. Same seems to hold here. If they don't make a painintg, they haven't used it, so they are just marketing?

Sure I'd like to have an EL every time someone decided to showcase something, but I'm not sure that's correct.

Yes, EL if they sell one to someone else. The rest gets a little complicated.

And yes widgets are good sellers too, that's what part of Micro is all about. Lets not turn into snobs about what someone produces, there are many different areas, not everyone is doing business handshake on stark white background, high contrast!