Author Topic: Shutterstock itself using an image without permission (Read 10437 times)

Hannafate · « **on:** October 03, 2020, 09:35 »

If you see an advertisement for Shutterstock that contains this photo (which is ours) please get a screen shot for us. (include the entire screen) We are collecting data on how widespread the ad is, so we know how much compensation to seek on revenue generated by the ad.

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coffeeshopceo · « **Reply #1 on:** November 15, 2020, 05:56 »

They haven't stolen your work. This is an advertisement to sell your work.

It also isn't widespread, as it's a Dynamic Remarketing Ad. This means it's showing you products you've looked at.

So, because you've browsed your own portfolio and looked at one of your images, Shutterstock is now showing that image to you in an ad.

The same thing will happen to you when you visit other online retails, like Amazon, Walmart etc. You'll see the same products you look at on those sites show up in ads on 3rd party sites you visit.

So, the "evidence" you're collecting is inside an echo chamber. Only you are seeing this ad, as you have looked at the image.

Hannafate · « **Reply #2 on:** November 20, 2020, 09:13 »

The problem is that my work is not for sale on Shutterstock.

Sean Locke Photography · « **Reply #3 on:** November 20, 2020, 10:24 »

Quote from: Hannafate on November 20, 2020, 09:13

The problem is that my work is not for sale on Shutterstock.

It was. A reverse search turns it up. #70409407

cathyslife · « **Reply #4 on:** November 20, 2020, 12:00 »

Your work will continue to show up in various places for awhile. It takes time for stuff to disappear off the internet, if it ever does. Think of all the thieves that have stolen your work and are now reselling it, too.

k_t_g · « **Reply #5 on:** November 21, 2020, 00:11 »

Problem is that she's been out of that site for years now.

Microstockphoto · « **Reply #6 on:** November 25, 2020, 05:33 »

here you go https://www.pinterest.ch/pin/153263193558622286/

you can file a DMCA with pinterest to take down the pin

Hannafate · « **Reply #7 on:** November 25, 2020, 08:46 »

Thanks for the link to the pin. However, the issue is ads, not pins.

cathyslife · « **Reply #8 on:** November 25, 2020, 08:55 »

Quote from: Hannafate on November 25, 2020, 08:46

Thanks for the link to the pin. However, the issue is ads, not pins.

And Shutterstock ads, to boot! Just one final FU from them to you. FYI, I think JoAnn Snover has mentioned the same problem. They closed her account, but they are all too happy to keep using images in their ads.

alexandersr · « **Reply #9 on:** November 25, 2020, 10:06 »

Quote from: cathyslife on November 25, 2020, 08:55

Quote from: Hannafate on November 25, 2020, 08:46
Thanks for the link to the pin. However, the issue is ads, not pins.

And Shutterstock ads, to boot! Just one final FU from them to you. FYI, I think JoAnn Snover has mentioned the same problem. They closed her account, but they are all too happy to keep using images in their ads.

I have read that Shutterstock is used to selling the contents of the accounts that they close.

Uncle Pete · « **Reply #10 on:** November 25, 2020, 11:02 »

Quote from: coffeeshopceo on November 15, 2020, 05:56

They haven't stolen your work. This is an advertisement to sell your work.

It also isn't widespread, as it's a Dynamic Remarketing Ad. This means it's showing you products you've looked at.

So, because you've browsed your own portfolio and looked at one of your images, Shutterstock is now showing that image to you in an ad.

The same thing will happen to you when you visit other online retails, like Amazon, Walmart etc. You'll see the same products you look at on those sites show up in ads on 3rd party sites you visit.

So, the "evidence" you're collecting is inside an echo chamber. Only you are seeing this ad, as you have looked at the image.

And if she clears her cache the image shouldn't show in the ad anymore.

Quote from: Sean Locke Photography on November 20, 2020, 10:24

Quote from: Hannafate on November 20, 2020, 09:13
The problem is that my work is not for sale on Shutterstock.

It was. A reverse search turns it up. #70409407

Can you explain that for me? Will I see her image on SS servers or some kind of archive or what? That's interesting, but I don't understand how and where. I looked, I see the image on 123RF but that's it. And if anyone is asking, the account was supposed to be closed in Dec. 2017. Even with the 90 day rules, Etc. it's been almost 3 years!

Quote from: alexandersr on November 25, 2020, 10:06

Quote from: cathyslife on November 25, 2020, 08:55
Quote from: Hannafate on November 25, 2020, 08:46
Thanks for the link to the pin. However, the issue is ads, not pins.

And Shutterstock ads, to boot! Just one final FU from them to you. FYI, I think JoAnn Snover has mentioned the same problem. They closed her account, but they are all too happy to keep using images in their ads.
I have read that Shutterstock is used to selling the contents of the accounts that they close.

If they do, then anyone who can prove they are doing that can sue them. So all anyone needs is proof, not I read and they can get a nice settlement. Have you heard of anyone getting that?

Maybe Darla will be the first.

Horizon · « **Reply #11 on:** November 25, 2020, 16:13 »

SS don't give a sheit anymore I think they have given up on moral issues. Yes they sell content on which accounts are closed! they cheat on just about everything now even manipulating the search favoring just certain parts of the world in this case eastern countries and Philippines!.there is no end to it. I mean they really do not care anymore its obvious!
There are a couple of non public stock forums used only by full time photographers and reading there well you know the things they will do just to cheat members out of pennies yes pennies is horrendous!

Hannafate · « **Reply #12 on:** November 26, 2020, 09:21 »

Quote from: Uncle Pete on November 25, 2020, 11:02

Can you explain that for me? Will I see her image on SS servers or some kind of archive or what? That's interesting, but I don't understand how and where. I looked, I see the image on 123RF but that's it. And if anyone is asking, the account was supposed to be closed in Dec. 2017. Even with the 90 day rules, Etc. it's been almost 3 years!

How odd... I don't sell on 123RF, either.

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If they do, then anyone who can prove they are doing that can sue them. So all anyone needs is proof, not I read and they can get a nice settlement. Have you heard of anyone getting that?

Maybe Darla will be the first.

Settlements commonly involve non-disclosure agreements.

Uncle Pete · « **Reply #13 on:** November 26, 2020, 14:38 »

Quote from: Hannafate on November 26, 2020, 09:21

Quote from: Uncle Pete on November 25, 2020, 11:02

Can you explain that for me? Will I see her image on SS servers or some kind of archive or what? That's interesting, but I don't understand how and where. I looked, I see the image on 123RF but that's it. And if anyone is asking, the account was supposed to be closed in Dec. 2017. Even with the 90 day rules, Etc. it's been almost 3 years!

How odd... I don't sell on 123RF, either.

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If they do, then anyone who can prove they are doing that can sue them. So all anyone needs is proof, not I read and they can get a nice settlement. Have you heard of anyone getting that?

Maybe Darla will be the first.

Settlements commonly involve non-disclosure agreements.

Still if you have nothing to lose, and you can prove they are using your image for ads or it's still on sale, get a good attorney.

I'd be cheering for you. I don't in any way defend illegal usage by anyone.

My mistake, it's Deposit and Dreamstime. Antique neon sign on Route 66, New Mexico

One page of these on SS and I don't see yours?

Quote from: Sean Locke Photography on November 20, 2020, 10:24

It was. A reverse search turns it up. #70409407

Is that an archived page or where did you find that?

Hannafate · « **Reply #14 on:** November 27, 2020, 09:09 »

Quote from: Uncle Pete on November 26, 2020, 14:38

One page of these on SS and I don't see yours?

That's the point. This image is not available on Shutterstock, therefore should not appear in their ads.

Uncle Pete · « **Reply #15 on:** November 27, 2020, 09:21 »

Quote from: Hannafate on November 27, 2020, 09:09

Quote from: Uncle Pete on November 26, 2020, 14:38

One page of these on SS and I don't see yours?

That's the point. This image is not available on Shutterstock, therefore should not appear in their ads.

+ 100

Which brings us back to, "are they using it"? Have you cleared your cache on your web browsers? Is SS actually using your image, where anyone else, except YOU can see it?

If they are, they you have a nice winnable lawsuit.

stryjek · « **Reply #16 on:** December 07, 2020, 00:53 »

double accounting ! They buy with subscription then they sell themselves as a single license with clients , some of the great new ideas by new CEO along with cutting the royalities.

Hannafate · « **Reply #17 on:** December 07, 2020, 08:49 »

Quote from: stryjek on December 07, 2020, 00:53

double accounting ! They buy with subscription then they sell themselves as a single license with clients , some of the great new ideas by new CEO along with cutting the royalities.

Shutterstock doesn't need to buy a license to use images that are available for sale on their site. Like all agencies, they reserve the right to this use.

The point of the thread is that the image was not available for sale on Shutterstock when the ads appeared.

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Author Topic: Shutterstock itself using an image without permission (Read 10437 times)

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