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« on: August 31, 2011, 11:53 »
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The site fotooboi(dot)extra(dot)ua/.... has images, including at least one of mine, displayed online at 1300px X 870px.   (found it through images.google.com)

This wallpaper site claims to sell images on paper, film, canvas, and they appear to be easily downloadable at 1300x870 for free, though I'm not going to try.

For a Long time, I have NOT had the displayed version of the image available for sale ANYWHERE,
so there's no way they could be planning to pay me if they sell my image. (Briefly, an improved RF version is on sale on macro, so I am particularly concerned about this.)

How does one get this site to stop displaying image, especially at 1300px x 870px (and apparently offering it for sale - though the info on their site about what's for 'sale' isn't clear to me)?

(edited to correct URL related info)
« Last Edit: August 31, 2011, 14:13 by ann »


« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2011, 12:20 »
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Write the web site owner an email and make them aware that he/she is in breach with the licensing terms of Shutterstock as images are available bigger than 800 pixels in width (or height).

If you get no response withint 24 hrs. I would write to the web hosting company and make a DMCA claim. They will then contact the web site owner and then he takes it down or they will.

I doubt they paid for the images.

Web site looks sloppy and amateurish.

lthn

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« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2011, 12:54 »
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" fotoboi(.)extra(.)ua/"

Why on earth would you type it that way? this isn't youtube you know. Btw the czech don't write in cyril letters, russians and ukranians do. (.ua  - ukranian domain) I know its off the main point, but it just freaks me out how utterly uneducated some ppl are.

On topic: bothering with these is a waste of time, and it should be the duty of the stocksites, they can dedicate ppl to this. Lets face it, if you put your pictures to be sold for a few bucks, even the most poorly 3rdworld hackers operating out of  a stick hut can dowload and further abuse them, so this will never end.
« Last Edit: August 31, 2011, 12:57 by lthn »

« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2011, 13:00 »
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" fotoboi(.)extra(.)ua/"

Why on earth would you type it that way? this isn't youtube you know. Btw the czech don't write in cyril letters, russians and ukranians do. (.ua  - ukranian domain) I know its off the main point, but it just freaks me out how utterly uneducated some ppl are.

On topic: bothering with these is a waste of time, and it should be the duty of the stocksites, they can dedicate ppl to this. Lets face it, if you put your pictures to be sold for a few bucks, even the most poorly 3rdworld hackers operating out of  a stick hut can dowload and further abuse them, so this will never end.

You might want to check your post for typos... Since you brought up how
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... utterly uneducated some ppl are. ...

Nice one... ;)

lthn

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« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2011, 13:11 »
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" fotoboi(.)extra(.)ua/"

Why on earth would you type it that way? this isn't youtube you know. Btw the czech don't write in cyril letters, russians and ukranians do. (.ua  - ukranian domain) I know its off the main point, but it just freaks me out how utterly uneducated some ppl are.

On topic: bothering with these is a waste of time, and it should be the duty of the stocksites, they can dedicate ppl to this. Lets face it, if you put your pictures to be sold for a few bucks, even the most poorly 3rdworld hackers operating out of  a stick hut can dowload and further abuse them, so this will never end.

You might want to check your post for typos... Since you brought up how
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... utterly uneducated some ppl are. ...

Nice one... ;)

so what typos have to do with not even knowing who actually live in country? btw, do you think DMCA works in ukraine? You just gotta love all these super-smart ppl : )) 

« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2011, 13:31 »
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sincere thanks click_click   :)

corrected: fotooboi(dot)extra(dot)ua/...
Despite its, uhm, hilariously inappropriate tone, it turns out the other poster's comment was helpful, since it made me take another look at what I typed, and now I'll go back & fix it on original post. too. (Oh, and I originally identified it as Czech since, though I could be remembering it incorrectly, the language translator I used for the site referred to that language.)
« Last Edit: August 31, 2011, 13:55 by ann »

« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2011, 13:50 »
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However it should be typed, it would be good if you didn't contribute to the thieves' search engine ranking by typing it exact. In other words, change it to fotoobol(dot)extra(dot).ua/ and then explain to replace the word dot with a period. That way, they don't get free "publicity". Just a suggestion.

« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2011, 14:06 »
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Thanks for the suggestion.  Plus, though I had parentheses around the dots (.) in URL to stop it from being a clickable link, (dot) makes the URL less obvious.
I've changed it to that above - it's okay if someone doesn't get how to interpret it.

However it should be typed, it would be good if you didn't contribute to the thieves' search engine ranking by typing it exact. In other words, change it to fotoobol(dot)extra(dot).ua/ and then explain to replace the word dot with a period. That way, they don't get free "publicity". Just a suggestion.
« Last Edit: August 31, 2011, 14:10 by ann »

« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2011, 14:14 »
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I wondered if that's why you included parentheses. That works too. The post by ithn threw me off a little.  :)

lthn

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« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2011, 16:04 »
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sincere thanks click_click   :)

corrected: fotooboi(dot)extra(dot)ua/...
Despite its, uhm, hilariously inappropriate tone, it turns out the other poster's comment was helpful, since it made me take another look at what I typed, and now I'll go back & fix it on original post. too. (Oh, and I originally identified it as Czech since, though I could be remembering it incorrectly, the language translator I used for the site referred to that language.)

oh yeah, the translator took it for cyrillic czech : )) you'r american, right? : )

lthn

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« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2011, 16:10 »
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However it should be typed, it would be good if you didn't contribute to the thieves' search engine ranking by typing it exact. In other words, change it to fotoobol(dot)extra(dot).ua/ and then explain to replace the word dot with a period. That way, they don't get free "publicity". Just a suggestion.

Search engine ranking comes from backlinks...

jbarber873

« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2011, 20:52 »
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sincere thanks click_click   :)

corrected: fotooboi(dot)extra(dot)ua/...
Despite its, uhm, hilariously inappropriate tone, it turns out the other poster's comment was helpful, since it made me take another look at what I typed, and now I'll go back & fix it on original post. too. (Oh, and I originally identified it as Czech since, though I could be remembering it incorrectly, the language translator I used for the site referred to that language.)

oh yeah, the translator took it for cyrillic czech : )) you'r american, right? : )

and you must be one of those "poorly 3rdworld hackers operating out of  a stick hut " I hear so much about.

lthn

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« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2011, 03:52 »
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sincere thanks click_click   :)

corrected: fotooboi(dot)extra(dot)ua/...
Despite its, uhm, hilariously inappropriate tone, it turns out the other poster's comment was helpful, since it made me take another look at what I typed, and now I'll go back & fix it on original post. too. (Oh, and I originally identified it as Czech since, though I could be remembering it incorrectly, the language translator I used for the site referred to that language.)

oh yeah, the translator took it for cyrillic czech : )) you'r american, right? : )

and you must be one of those "poorly 3rdworld hackers operating out of  a stick hut " I hear so much about.

yep, I run czech websites from india. watch out!

Microbius

« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2011, 04:04 »
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I wouldn't bother contacting them, go straight to the DMCA and contacting the agency.
No point engaging with these people.

« Reply #14 on: September 01, 2011, 04:56 »
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(...) even the most poorly 3rdworld hackers operating out of  a stick hut can dowload and further abuse them, so this will never end.

I just would like to remember that Pirate Bay, Naspter, Torrent, etc were not created by 3rd worlders.

« Reply #15 on: September 01, 2011, 13:09 »
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I contacted SS yesterday, gave them the URL - mostly to give them a head's up about the site. (When on SS, that version had an EL a couple of years ago.)

It also sold on DT, but I think they only want notice about active images misused with DT watermark still on them.

(Of course, I'd be beyond amazed if the site had bought EL, and even if they did, an EL would not give them right to have image that size online, let alone anything else they might be doing with it.)

So DMCA seems only other option left.


I wouldn't bother contacting them, go straight to the DMCA and contacting the agency.
No point engaging with these people.
« Last Edit: September 01, 2011, 13:23 by ann »

« Reply #16 on: September 06, 2011, 18:36 »
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UPDATE:
Last week: After an exchange of emails with SS support, I checked whois for the domain server for 'photooboi extra ua', and then hit a brick wall getting email addresses for those dservers, since they're Ukraine-based. (So DMCA not the way to go.) Then I sent the whois results to SS and asked if there was anything else I realistically could do about my 1300 x 870px image photooboi- was displaying.

Today: Shutterstock's counsel called, listened, explained his take on the situation, and gave me the wallpaper site's Contact email, which I missed when I searched the site. So, now I'm off to write them a letter about taking the 1300 X 870px photo down. And, if they posted such a large size due to ignorance, rather than malice, it might help.

BTW, in case that brief account doesn't make it clear - I feel Shutterstock's response to my concerns over image misuse by the wallpaper site was solid - responding to emails overnight or sooner on week days, and then attorney calling me. (Plus, though irrelevant to the image misuse problem, I'm a minor contributor, and the misuse problem was about an image that used to be on SS and another site or so.)
« Last Edit: September 06, 2011, 19:44 by ann »

« Reply #17 on: September 07, 2011, 05:54 »
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UPDATE:
Last week: After an exchange of emails with SS support, I checked whois for the domain server for 'photooboi extra ua', and then hit a brick wall getting email addresses for those dservers, since they're Ukraine-based. (So DMCA not the way to go.) Then I sent the whois results to SS and asked if there was anything else I realistically could do about my 1300 x 870px image photooboi- was displaying.

Today: Shutterstock's counsel called, listened, explained his take on the situation, and gave me the wallpaper site's Contact email, which I missed when I searched the site. So, now I'm off to write them a letter about taking the 1300 X 870px photo down. And, if they posted such a large size due to ignorance, rather than malice, it might help.

BTW, in case that brief account doesn't make it clear - I feel Shutterstock's response to my concerns over image misuse by the wallpaper site was solid - responding to emails overnight or sooner on week days, and then attorney calling me. (Plus, though irrelevant to the image misuse problem, I'm a minor contributor, and the misuse problem was about an image that used to be on SS and another site or so.)

Glad to hear they at least responded. As far as posting a large size due to ignorance, that may be the case, or they may know it's wrong, but because "everyone else does it", they just go with the flow, figuring no one is going to do anything about it. I had someone take a large image down yesterday, but they said they used it because they got it from another wallpaper site for free. They pointed me to that site.  ::)

« Reply #18 on: September 07, 2011, 07:44 »
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cclapper - That's great the site took down your large image. Some progress is so much better than total surrender.

re your:
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Glad to hear they at least responded. As far as posting a large size due to ignorance, that may be the case, or they may know it's wrong, but because "everyone else does it", they just go with the flow, figuring no one is going to do anything about it. I had someone take a large image down yesterday, but they said they used it because they got it from another wallpaper site for free. They pointed me to that site.  Roll Eyes
« Last Edit: September 07, 2011, 07:45 by ann »


 

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