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« on: September 05, 2011, 07:26 »
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Found my image here:

wallpapersbuzz dot com / flowers / two-red-roses-with-red-hearts.html

(Clean up the url to view...I don't want to give the thieves any more search engine placement)


« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2011, 10:18 »
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I contacted the site and they were very prompt in removing my image. But not before it has been passed along to yet another bunch of thieves.  ::)

edit: And here is the site where they downloaded it from, for free, and are now redistributing. Won't be long now before it's all pointless...

http: // weni dot ru /wallpapers/2721.html 

Take out spaces and change dot to .

A russian site. Open in chrome so it auto translates for you.
« Last Edit: September 05, 2011, 10:20 by cclapper »

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« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2011, 12:57 »
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C'mon these 3 clicks they get from here don't do diddly squat, but this is extremely annoying for anyone who actually wants to check the links out. Common sense plz.

« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2011, 13:36 »
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C'mon these 3 clicks they get from here don't do diddly squat, but this is extremely annoying for anyone who actually wants to check the links out. Common sense plz.

Feel free not to check out the links then.  ;)

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« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2011, 13:40 »
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C'mon these 3 clicks they get from here don't do diddly squat, but this is extremely annoying for anyone who actually wants to check the links out. Common sense plz.

Feel free not to check out the links then.  ;)

You will achieve 'ppl not checking them out' by posting this way. Short attention spans you know... Just post proper links plz, why is that so hard?

« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2011, 14:19 »
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She has a point, by not giving the sites any extra back links. It takes less than 10 seconds, to sort the urls out for anyone who really wants to know if their images are there or not. Or u could just spend the 10 seconds saying oh come just give us the links etc.

« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2011, 17:15 »
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Thanks cclapper.  I will check the site.

And you are right about not posting an active link.    That would only help them to get better placement in Google.

« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2011, 04:50 »
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"If I don't like the way something is written or in this case the way a link is given, I would just move on to another thread."

Why did you respond to me than... by your own logic? : )

You have not done anything that I have disliked enough or for me to be disinterested enough for me not to return to this thread. You have expressed your opinion on a subject which is a tangent of the main subject, on which I have a different opinion. Your points are not invalid, but I still think sites like these should not have quality backlinks (msg has a very high rank), no matter how little or how much the backlinks boost the sites in question and especially if that is the wish of the OP. Plus like you, I love a good debate.

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« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2011, 05:50 »
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"If I don't like the way something is written or in this case the way a link is given, I would just move on to another thread."

Why did you respond to me than... by your own logic? : )

... You have expressed your opinion on a subject which is a tangent of the main subject, on which I have a different opinion. Your points are not invalid, ...

Why did suggest that I should have just skipped the thread than? : ) On bakclinks: make them nofollow, issue over.

« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2011, 06:05 »
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"If I don't like the way something is written or in this case the way a link is given, I would just move on to another thread."

Why did you respond to me than... by your own logic? : )

... You have expressed your opinion on a subject which is a tangent of the main subject, on which I have a different opinion. Your points are not invalid, ...

Why did suggest that I should have just skipped the thread than? : ) On bakclinks: make them nofollow, issue over.

If something irritates you enough skipping a thread is always an option, instead of continually trying to change a decision that someone doesn't want to change. The OP has read the thread and is sticking to her decision, so yeah the issue is over. 

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« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2011, 06:38 »
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"If I don't like the way something is written or in this case the way a link is given, I would just move on to another thread."

Why did you respond to me than... by your own logic? : )

... You have expressed your opinion on a subject which is a tangent of the main subject, on which I have a different opinion. Your points are not invalid, ...

Why did suggest that I should have just skipped the thread than? : ) On bakclinks: make them nofollow, issue over.

If something irritates you enough skipping a thread is always an option, instead of continually trying to change a decision that someone doesn't want to change. The OP has read the thread and is sticking to her decision, so yeah the issue is over. 

This sounds like that accroding to you, some ppl should make a point, and others should just skip it, altho you admit they have a point : ) I see this, the same problem all the time: people fail at the most basic points of logic, even their own logic. Thats why I get bored with msg boards, most don't want arguments (the main function of boards like this) they just want to hear stuff they fancy : ) They don't even realize this while doing it: they hear something they dont like, they will start arguing that people shouldn't argue, what an oxymoron. Unless they grow up from this attitude, communicating with them is just useless, so I'm off, thx.

« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2011, 06:42 »
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Much a do about nothing. Forums are the place for ranting though, so it's good that you've got it off your chest. But if an OP has made a decision to write a thread the way he or she wants to and explained their own reasoning for doing so, I'm more inclined to respect the wishes of the OP, as they are the ones who started the subject. If I don't like the way something is written or in this case the way a link is given, I would just move on to another thread.

edit: thanks for posting cclapper, i had a look earlier and my images weren't in either of those websites.

Glad none of yours are showing. I did recognize some of the nature shots, but not sure of the photographers, so not much I can do. It takes enough time just tracking down one's own stolen images.

« Reply #12 on: September 06, 2011, 06:52 »
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Much a do about nothing. Forums are the place for ranting though, so it's good that you've got it off your chest. But if an OP has made a decision to write a thread the way he or she wants to and explained their own reasoning for doing so, I'm more inclined to respect the wishes of the OP, as they are the ones who started the subject. If I don't like the way something is written or in this case the way a link is given, I would just move on to another thread.

edit: thanks for posting cclapper, i had a look earlier and my images weren't in either of those websites.

Glad none of yours are showing. I did recognize some of the nature shots, but not sure of the photographers, so not much I can do. It takes enough time just tracking down one's own stolen images.

Finally we're back on topic :)  I must admit I seldom track my images, but I do look at the threads here when people post stuff they have found and I have a search for my own images too. Cheers again.

RacePhoto

« Reply #13 on: September 06, 2011, 11:20 »
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She has a point, by not giving the sites any extra back links. It takes less than 10 seconds, to sort the urls out for anyone who really wants to know if their images are there or not. Or u could just spend the 10 seconds saying oh come just give us the links etc.


Ohh jesus, that single link wouldn't do f*** f*** so how about sparing both of those 10 secs? : ) The real annoyance is of course not the 20 secs, just how dumb this is, truly sorry for being rude but I just can't stand subject illtirate ppl wasting other's energy because they have an urge to play smartasses. This is the big problem with most you ppl, this nonsense attitude... picture this: you let your shot get downloaded a zillion times with hardly any controll, you intend to leave it like that for the next 1000 years, then you want to lessen all the sleuth surrounding it by putting  spaces in the f-reaking url. This is just stooopid, sorry.

...and if you still can't get this out your head, just ask the admin to make links in comments nofollow. It's pretty much standard on most sites.


Illiteracy is a problem I agree.


I'm still stuck on "f*** f***" "'ppl" "smartasses" "f-reaking" "stooopid" "controll" "plz" and probably some more.  ::) I kow English and I don't know text talk or whatever that short code is called now. Part of being old is still using full real words most of the time.

However I do understand NoFollow and maybe we should ask if Leaf has it in the BB code here, in which case lthn makes an excellent point. All the spam posts and links to whatever or us posting a link to an image thief, have NO EFFECT on internet ranks, and doesn't help them. In which case we can post full links without worrying about giving them any benefits with trick dots or spaces. Plus one (.) and it's covered, we don't have to go to extremes to make it useless for the creeps and cretins of the world.

So Leaf? are these forums NoFollow?

For anyone interested... http://www.inverudio.com/NoFollow.php

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« Reply #14 on: September 06, 2011, 16:12 »
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She has a point, by not giving the sites any extra back links. It takes less than 10 seconds, to sort the urls out for anyone who really wants to know if their images are there or not. Or u could just spend the 10 seconds saying oh come just give us the links etc.


Ohh jesus, that single link wouldn't do f*** f*** so how about sparing both of those 10 secs? : ) The real annoyance is of course not the 20 secs, just how dumb this is, truly sorry for being rude but I just can't stand subject illtirate ppl wasting other's energy because they have an urge to play smartasses. This is the big problem with most you ppl, this nonsense attitude... picture this: you let your shot get downloaded a zillion times with hardly any controll, you intend to leave it like that for the next 1000 years, then you want to lessen all the sleuth surrounding it by putting  spaces in the f-reaking url. This is just stooopid, sorry.

...and if you still can't get this out your head, just ask the admin to make links in comments nofollow. It's pretty much standard on most sites.


Illiteracy is a problem I agree.


I'm still stuck on "f*** f***" "'ppl" "smartasses" "f-reaking" "stooopid" "controll" "plz" and probably some more.  ::) I kow English and I don't know text talk or whatever that short code is called now. Part of being old is still using full real words most of the time.

However I do understand NoFollow and maybe we should ask if Leaf has it in the BB code here, in which case lthn makes an excellent point. All the spam posts and links to whatever or us posting a link to an image thief, have NO EFFECT on internet ranks, and doesn't help them. In which case we can post full links without worrying about giving them any benefits with trick dots or spaces. Plus one (.) and it's covered, we don't have to go to extremes to make it useless for the creeps and cretins of the world.

So Leaf? are these forums NoFollow?

For anyone interested... http://www.inverudio.com/NoFollow.php


Ok, so now we know that you are old. The links are not nofollow afaics (as far as I can see), that wasn't my point, it was making that an option. imho, thx, XoXo, cu laterz 8 )

ShadySue

« Reply #15 on: September 06, 2011, 16:52 »
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Thanks cclapper.  I will check the site.

And you are right about not posting an active link.    That would only help them to get better placement in Google.
Absolutely. The last time someone didn't believe this, I had him link from his fairly high traffic site to my low-ranking one. The boost was almost immediate. For the keyword in question, I rose from goodness knows where to position 9 of thousands, and was in the top 10 in Google for that word from then until I lost the domain name.

« Reply #16 on: September 07, 2011, 05:45 »
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Thanks cclapper.  I will check the site.

And you are right about not posting an active link.    That would only help them to get better placement in Google.
Absolutely. The last time someone didn't believe this, I had him link from his fairly high traffic site to my low-ranking one. The boost was almost immediate. For the keyword in question, I rose from goodness knows where to position 9 of thousands, and was in the top 10 in Google for that word from then until I lost the domain name.

Thanks for the confirmations, everyone. It is as I suspected.

I will post links as I see fit. If no one wants to be bothered to check them out, and 5 seconds out of your day removing spaces is too much of a waste, then by all means don't bother.

I always appreciate it when others alert us to thieves, so I will continue to contribute, for those who care.  :)

« Reply #17 on: September 07, 2011, 08:00 »
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"If I don't like the way something is written or in this case the way a link is given, I would just move on to another thread."

Why did you respond to me than... by your own logic? : )

... You have expressed your opinion on a subject which is a tangent of the main subject, on which I have a different opinion. Your points are not invalid, ...

Why did suggest that I should have just skipped the thread than? : ) On bakclinks: make them nofollow, issue over.

If something irritates you enough skipping a thread is always an option, instead of continually trying to change a decision that someone doesn't want to change. The OP has read the thread and is sticking to her decision, so yeah the issue is over. 

This sounds like that accroding to you, some ppl should make a point, and others should just skip it, altho you admit they have a point : ) I see this, the same problem all the time: people fail at the most basic points of logic, even their own logic. Thats why I get bored with msg boards, most don't want arguments (the main function of boards like this) they just want to hear stuff they fancy : ) They don't even realize this while doing it: they hear something they dont like, they will start arguing that people shouldn't argue, what an oxymoron. Unless they grow up from this attitude, communicating with them is just useless, so I'm off, thx.
at least they have an "oxy" in front....

RacePhoto

« Reply #18 on: September 07, 2011, 14:31 »
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Thanks cclapper.  I will check the site.

And you are right about not posting an active link.    That would only help them to get better placement in Google.
Absolutely. The last time someone didn't believe this, I had him link from his fairly high traffic site to my low-ranking one. The boost was almost immediate. For the keyword in question, I rose from goodness knows where to position 9 of thousands, and was in the top 10 in Google for that word from then until I lost the domain name.

Where can I get some of that? I could use a boost from a high ranked site.

Oh wait, that's not the same as a link from a message board that doesn't send the data and the fact that Google is blocking some data to prevent people from boosting their rank by spamming message sites. I won't help anyone who might be reading this but there's one way they actually reduce the rank for multiple sites with links. Might seem strange but there is a protection to counteract spamming the ranks.

Last of all, many larger sites now nofollow smaller sites, so they don't help the competition.

For the other part, yes cc I'm not too cripple to add a dot here and there if I really want to see a site, keep up the police work. I don't really care either way. Just pointing out that it's not necessary. If it makes you happy, have fun.

If it did work, all we'd have to do is find the biggest baddest, highest ranked forums in the world and add a tag line with a link to our site and suddenly we'd be hero's and up on top of the Google and other ranks. Honest, it doesn't work that way anymore. The concept assumes that Google is run by idiots who can't adjust to protect their rankings from manipulation but some simpletons spam on a forum. (somehow I think I just called myself a simpleton?)  :-\

« Reply #19 on: September 12, 2011, 08:15 »
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Dear author, If they removed your image after your request, so what the problem? i reviewed that first website you were posted, and i think you are not right about posting such topics. Yes, they are allowing to download images, but they are pushing their watermark as security for illegal use of that images, and as they are writing in the bottom of page, this images were found in the internet, on free websites like "weni dot ru" as you mentioned,  And yes, if you will explore for some time and look to images, the quality is not so good as your original image must be, so they are making a lot of work for supplying good security of original image.

Lol, just write them to write that you are the author of the image, and maybe you will get some permission requests which you will sell for some money :D be happy, its just a free advertisement for you. Don't make so stupid thinks to remove images from such places.

As seo and website management expert, I just looked for some images they are posting, and its really the best place to post your image for public home preview  and use as wallpaper for your desktop about security reasons.. take a look on this google query:

http://www.google.lt/search?hl=lt&tbs=simg:CAQSEgkjclA3IqE7miH1g_1SzwHfgKg&tbm=isch&iact=hc&vpx=404&vpy=323&dur=3039&hovh=177&hovw=284&tx=94&ty=274&ei=mQJuTsvhDrPa4QSihtzwBA&page=1&tbnh=131&tbnw=209&ved=1t:2220,r:7,s:0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&biw=1580&bih=871&cad=h [nofollow]

and this is one of the images found on wallpapersbuzz, but as you see, everywhere its without any security and possible for public download!!! so no one is doing  anything to secure or supply any information about that image. So as you can understand, the site you were written about, just took that image too, because its free everywhere!!! so firstly write to that 100+ websites who is publishing that image, and only after that, you can write to wallpapersbuzz :) lol.. because its no point anyway.

Please search for your image the same way on google, and you will see the same situation of 100+ websites with free download of your image:

http://www.google.lt/search?q=http:+//weni.ru/wallpapers/2721.html&hl=lt&prmd=ivns&source=lnms&tbm=isch&ei=cghuTrncKMSi4gTNrJHgBA&sa=X&oi=mode_link&ct=mode&cd=2&ved=0CBAQ_AUoAQ&biw=1579&bih=871#q=http:+//weni.ru/wallpapers/2721.html&hl=lt&sa=X&tbm=isch&prmd=ivns&tbs=simg:CAQSEglUzNQVZWWeyiGP24_1KbhzMsQ&iact=hc&vpx=535&vpy=91&dur=2558&hovh=194&hovw=259&tx=99&ty=285&ei=dwhuTtPEIePj4QSsy_CNBQ&page=1&tbnh=134&tbnw=168&ved=1t:2220,r:2,s:0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=d790e6b54a341d00&biw=1579&bih=871 [nofollow]

I will never buy an image to use as my desktop background, but i will look for good image author to buy it for my book or story thumb. Sorry, i just registered to write that wallpapersbuzz is respecting the authors of images, you are no right if you removed your image from that place, but its up to you. Thank you for posting great website link.

One more thing.. why are you using Apple logo on your thumbnail ? Have you got permissions to use it such a way? LOL. who is talking about image stealing? do not be ridiculous with your cry.

And sorry for my english.
« Last Edit: September 12, 2011, 10:59 by Linator »

« Reply #20 on: September 12, 2011, 08:32 »
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She has a point, by not giving the sites any extra back links. It takes less than 10 seconds, to sort the urls out for anyone who really wants to know if their images are there or not. Or u could just spend the 10 seconds saying oh come just give us the links etc.

Ohh jesus, that single link wouldn't do f*** f*** so how about sparing both of those 10 secs? : ) The real annoyance is of course not the 20 secs, just how dumb this is, truly sorry for being rude but I just can't stand subject illtirate ppl wasting other's energy because they have an urge to play smartasses. This is the big problem with most you ppl, this nonsense attitude... picture this: you let your shot get downloaded a zillion times with hardly any controll, you intend to leave it like that for the next 1000 years, then you want to lessen all the sleuth surrounding it by putting  spaces in the f-reaking url. This is just stooopid, sorry.

...and if you still can't get this out your head, just ask the admin to make links in comments nofollow. It's pretty much standard on most sites.

Yes, You are absolutely right!. Backlinks are not giving such weight anymore. And its not the way to bust your site for a long time now. Search engines now have more brains than most of people have :D lol.
« Last Edit: September 12, 2011, 08:37 by Linator »

« Reply #21 on: September 12, 2011, 15:57 »
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Linator, you must be from wallpapersbuzz dot com.

Thanks for pointing out that my image is everywhere for free. As if I didn't know that.  ::)

I don't really care if it's in 10 million places on the internet...it is STILL copyright infringement. And if I choose to  send DMCA notices or requests for takedowns to each and every one of them, it's my business, not yours. If you have my image for download on your site, YOU ARE DOING SOMETHING ILLEGAL and I am going to call you out on it.

And you'd better believe I am going to tell other contributors about it. Let me guess, you have had other people ask for their images to be removed, hence your new account here and postings?

« Reply #22 on: September 12, 2011, 16:05 »
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snip
One more thing.. why are you using Apple logo on your thumbnail ? Have you got permissions to use it such a way? LOL. who is talking about image stealing? do not be ridiculous with your cry.

And sorry for my english.

Actually, I didn't steal the apple logo...it is a chrome image that was on a computer I used to own. Then I took my own photo reflected in the chrome. And I am using it for my own personal avatar, not copyright infringing by giving away someone else's work. I haven't stolen anything.

Please review the definitions and legalities of copyright infringement. Please read the Agreements on all five sites for which I sell my images. While you are at it, you might look up the definition of stealing.

After you have done that, let me know. Then we will talk about who is "ridiculous with their cry."

edit: another newbie who just joined today to try and convince us that it's ok to steal other people's images, because they are posted on the internet. As if it's not stealing if someone has done it before you.  ::)

And, as I mentioned earlier, I don't care if backlinks mean nothing. I will write websites' names who are stealing images anyway I choose. If you don't like it, don't read the thread!
« Last Edit: September 12, 2011, 16:16 by cclapper »

Microbius

« Reply #23 on: September 13, 2011, 01:18 »
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Dear author, If they removed your image after your request, so what the problem?.....

I know from your posts that you are not very bright, but I will try to explain it to you anyway. If you steal something and are caught, you cannot then say "Oh I as I got caught I will return it so what's the problem"
Other people have already downloaded the files from the site, and they like you will use the excuse that they are available from lots of places on the internet (like your site) "so what's the problem".
The way these copies get out there isn't, as you seem to have convinced yourself, that we, for the most part, post large images unwatermarked version for free download. It is that someone initially steals them by using stolen credit cards on subscription plans, or by illegally posting them for download after a legitimate license purchase.
Trolls like you then start distributing them further, illegally, through sites like yours, knowing that it is very unlikely that you will get spotted by the copyright holder.
Unless you live under a stone you know as well as I do that 99.9% of decent professional quality images you can find on the internet are copyright protected.

Microbius

« Reply #24 on: September 13, 2011, 01:31 »
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This is the most important thing to do whenever you find stolen work online.
Here's the DMCA notice page for AdSense websites, please everyone who finds their work stolen fill this in for the offending sites:
https://www.google.com/adsense/support/bin/answer.py?answer=146178

So important I am posting it here too!

« Reply #25 on: September 13, 2011, 06:00 »
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This is the most important thing to do whenever you find stolen work online.
Here's the DMCA notice page for AdSense websites, please everyone who finds their work stolen fill this in for the offending sites:
https://www.google.com/adsense/support/bin/answer.py?answer=146178

So important I am posting it here too!

Thanks for posting!

rubyroo

« Reply #26 on: September 13, 2011, 06:27 »
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Yes, thanks Microbius.  That's great!  :)

@ Tyler - is it possible to have 'sticky' or a section for infringement fighting tools in the forum?  It would be great to get quick and easy access to useful links like that Google form when needed.

« Reply #27 on: September 13, 2011, 09:56 »
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edit: another newbie who just joined today to try and convince us that it's ok to steal other people's images, because they are posted on the internet. As if it's not stealing if someone has done it before you.  ::)

Hi there, lol, im not related to that site anyhow. I just wrote my opinion about things you are talking about, and yes, i registered to write it, because i just think that the page you are talking, is good if they answered you and removed all the data you requested, and yes, i like this forum. Yes, i think that is bad to steal others works, im interested in photography too, but i wouldn't be so angry about using my works like this, because i think its great that someone want to use it and someone likes it.. If not, so what the point of life is that photography we are making?. Ok, lets sell it once, and than, why all the people want to fuck all the other ones for that fuc..ng money, i dont understand. Maybe im not right, because it is not my primary work, so once again, its my opinion, and i have a right to write it here :).

sorry if i written something that hooked you!.and once again sorry for my english.

Microbius

« Reply #28 on: September 13, 2011, 10:07 »
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...... Ok, lets sell it once, and than, why all the people want to  all the other ones for that fuc..ng money, i dont understand.
Okay, maybe you genuinely don't understand. The reason we have to "sell" our work many times is that it costs a lot of time and money to produce it and under the Microstock model we only get from a few dollars down to a few cents per license sold.
If we were to try and sell the images only once each the agencies that represent us would have to charge many hundreds of dollars, of which we would only get a smaller percentage, to cover the costs in terms of time and equipment to produce.
I am glad that you aren't connected to the site, as I would hope anyone involved in it would at least have a small bit of knowledge about these things before they went out and started stealing IP.

ETA lol
« Last Edit: September 13, 2011, 10:09 by Microbius »

« Reply #29 on: September 13, 2011, 10:20 »
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...... Ok, lets sell it once, and than, why all the people want to  all the other ones for that fuc..ng money, i dont understand.
Okay, maybe you genuinely don't understand. The reason we have to "sell" our work many times is that it costs a lot of time and money to produce it and under the Microstock model we only get from a few dollars down to a few cents per license sold.
If we were to try and sell the images only once each the agencies that represent us would have to charge many hundreds of dollars, of which we would only get a smaller percentage, to cover the costs in terms of time and equipment to produce.
I am glad that you aren't connected to the site, as I would hope anyone involved in it would at least have a small bit of knowledge about these things before they went out and started stealing IP.

ETA lol

Maybe you are right in some case, but in other words, why cant we give to use our images to people who will never buy it and never use it in any commercial adverticements or magazines, and just will put it in their desktop? What is the problem with it? I just wanted to say: Please, dont tell me that you all always buying all the things you have on your pc?? Dont tell me that you never used such images from such websites on your desktop? So ok, as i understood, CClapper written them and they removed an image, perfect! looking more for my images in another places.

We must look and destroy the source of that stealing, and not the websites where you can upload the image too.. As i see, you can register on that buzz site and upload your wallpapers, so how we can control, and they writed some terms and conditions before any uploads, and why we must report the site who is so gentle with authors, and maybe cannot control all their users.?.

edit: So why not to destroy all the good things from around the internet like facebook and twitter, where users are posting images, videos and articles? lets start from that gigants and report them for their users posts..
« Last Edit: September 13, 2011, 10:25 by Linator »

Microbius

« Reply #30 on: September 13, 2011, 10:37 »
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Please, dont tell me that you all always buying all the things you have on your pc?? Dont tell me that you never used such images from such websites on your desktop?

Please, don't tell me that you can't even grasp the concept that there are people in this world who do not steal. As it seems that this is the case, here it is spelled out for you. I always pay for all the things I have on my PC. I have never stolen another's work to decorate my desktop. I have also never broken into someone's house and stolen their TV, which frankly would be a lesser crime than stealing someone's work and posting it for download on the internet, as at least it doesn't jeopardize their future income and ability to feed themselves and their family. Though I can understand why the latter is more common as it takes less guts and there's less chance of getting caught.
I know it is very hard to explain this to those who have such a massive sense of entitlement that they think they can judge when it is okay for them to take other people's property without asking.

« Reply #31 on: September 13, 2011, 10:49 »
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Maybe you are right in some case, but in other words, why cant we give to use our images to people who will never buy it and never use it in any commercial adverticements or magazines, and just will put it in their desktop?

If you would like to do that with your images, go right ahead. My images are for sale. As you can see, now my image is everywhere, and I am not making a penny off it! Are you so naive that you don't think my image isn't being used commercially, in addition to being used as wallpaper? My business model is...NO FREEBIES! Pay for the correct license if you want it on your desktop. Don't EVER re-distribute...it's stealing other people's work!

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What is the problem with it? I just wanted to say: Please, dont tell me that you all always buying all the things you have on your pc?? Dont tell me that you never used such images from such websites on your desktop? So ok, as i understood, CClapper written them and they removed an image, perfect! looking more for my images in another places.

No, I never steal other peoples work! I use the wallpaper that comes with the Mac OS or I shoot and use my own images. Or I buy an image. I don't steal software either, though many think that it is perfectly ok to do that, after all, because they can't afford it.

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We must look and destroy the source of that stealing, and not the websites where you can upload the image too.. As i see, you can register on that buzz site and upload your wallpapers, so how we can control, and they writed some terms and conditions before any uploads, and why we must report the site who is so gentle with authors, and maybe cannot control all their users.?.

No, I am NOT limiting my searching and destroying to just the sources of stealing...I am also looking to shut down the people who then re-download, then allow others to re-download! It is ALL stealing! One is no better than the other! Here's a general rule of thumb...if you find a great high resolution, large photo on the internet? You can almost guarantee that it has been stolen from someone. Anyone who wants to post on the internet knows that you only need small, low resolution images to accomplish that. The only reason large, high resolution images are being posted and are allowed to be downloaded are because people are stealing them!

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edit: So why not to destroy all the good things from around the internet like facebook and twitter, where users are posting images, videos and articles? lets start from that gigants and report them for their users posts..

People on this forum DO look around FB for stolen images. There is a fairly recent thread where a contributor here found her image stolen and being used on FB.

I'm glad you are not from wallpapersbuzz dot com. I am glad they took my image down when I asked them. Other contributors here have found their images also being used illegally there. This morning, I looked around that website again, and it looks like a LOT of images have been taken down. Rightfully so...they were ALL likely stolen! How much money do you think we have all lost, just because some jerk downloaded a high rez version and reposted it as a giveaway? I don't know if you think that's perfectly OK, but I sure don't!

Fixing that one small problem isn't the end, though. Just like the drug trade, it's a HUGE problem now.

« Reply #32 on: September 13, 2011, 10:56 »
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Ok, i just think for a while, and i understand that in some points i was wrong. But you all are really too angry for all the world..  ::) and it was interesting discussion for me, thank you, i want to finish it here:) and wish you a good life and sales, And im going to read some other forum threads. Bye.

rubyroo

« Reply #33 on: September 13, 2011, 10:58 »
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@ Linator

Your posts are confusing to me.  I'm not sure you realise what this forum is.  It's a forum for people who sell their photographs to earn money - whether as a 'paying hobby' to afford extra equipment, or as a full-time income to put food on the table, clothe themselves, etc.

There are many sites out there where photographers upload their images for free, purely for the pleasure of letting others access those images for free.  However, the participants in this forum are selling their images, and that is the sole purpose of creating them.  The purpose of the agencies we submit our work to is to SELL them.

If you want free images, use a free site.  There's no reason at all for people to steal images when there's a whole world of legitimately free imagery on the Internet. 
« Last Edit: September 13, 2011, 11:00 by rubyroo »

« Reply #34 on: September 13, 2011, 11:00 »
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Ok, i just think for a while, and i understand that in some points i was wrong. But you all are really too angry for all the world..  ::) and it was interesting discussion for me, thank you, i want to finish it here:) and wish you a good life and sales, And im going to read some other forum threads. Bye.

And look for some more high resolution, stolen images to download and use for "wallpaper", no doubt.  ::)

I guess you have never had anything stolen from you, otherwise you would understand totally why people are angry.

« Reply #35 on: September 13, 2011, 11:03 »
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@ Linator

Your posts are confusing to me.  I'm not sure you realise what this forum is.  It's a forum for people who sell their photographs to earn money - whether as a 'paying hobby' to afford extra equipment, or as a full-time income to put food on the table, clothe themselves, etc.

There are many sites out there where photographers upload their images for free, purely for the pleasure of letting others access those images for free.  However, the participants in this forum are selling their images, and that is the sole purpose of creating them.  The purpose of the agencies we submit our work to is to SELL them.

If you want free images, use a free site.  There's no reason at all for people to steal images when there's a whole world of legitimately free imagery on the Internet. 

Maybe it's the new iteration of sunnymars, disguising herself as "Peggy".

rubyroo

« Reply #36 on: September 13, 2011, 11:16 »
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"Peggy"?

lthn

    This user is banned.
« Reply #37 on: September 13, 2011, 13:18 »
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Raise your hands if you dont have any avis, mpegs and or mp3s on your drives : ))

« Reply #38 on: September 13, 2011, 14:17 »
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Maybe it's the new iteration of sunnymars, disguising herself as "Peggy".
;D
I raise my hand, I don't have any avis (whatever they are) mpegs or mp3s on my drives, in fact, I don't have any illegal software whatsoever.

Just because some people's morals are below average, doesn't mean the whole world's are.

lthn

    This user is banned.
« Reply #39 on: September 13, 2011, 16:39 »
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Maybe it's the new iteration of sunnymars, disguising herself as "Peggy".
;D
I raise my hand, I don't have any avis (whatever they are) mpegs or mp3s on my drives, in fact, I don't have any illegal software whatsoever.

Just because some people's morals are below average, doesn't mean the whole world's are.

that's nice, because I didn't mention anything about software : )

« Reply #40 on: September 13, 2011, 19:02 »
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Yes, thanks Microbius.  That's great!  :)

@ Tyler - is it possible to have 'sticky' or a section for infringement fighting tools in the forum?  It would be great to get quick and easy access to useful links like that Google form when needed.


a better idea may be adding it to the wiki.  It isn't used very much but the point of it was to slowly gather information that we didn't want to get lost.

nofollow links are also now in effect.
« Last Edit: September 13, 2011, 19:05 by leaf »

« Reply #41 on: September 14, 2011, 17:43 »
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Linator,

If you want to make your work available for free, it's your right to do it. What nobody has the right however is to make other people's IP available against their will.


 

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