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Paulo M. F. Pires

  • "No Gods No Masters"
« on: August 28, 2012, 07:17 »
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Yesterday, I got the following sale:

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[...]
ID de Ficheiro: 8413425
Nome de Ficheiro:Modern House
Tamanho: EL4
O Seu Lucro: $2.64
[...]


Now, knowing that with 44% of royalties, one EL4 gives around 22$ each, I went to their online chat ( fast by the way ), and report that situation.

Today, they reply me about it:

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Depositphotos is constantly searching for the new ways of image selling in order to let the contributor to earn more.
Currently we are testing the Image selling by credits to our Partners. So these sales will be shown at your account as Partner sales.
The commission to the contributors will be provided according their levels - 55-52%.
In case this testing of Partner Sales is successful, we'll integrate the functional to unable this option "Partner Sales".


In fact, in sales report I've something like that:



Now, I'm "puzzled" with such situation:

- They are testing without any warning? And will have opt-out option only after "testing"?
- Look to earnings column, I would be happy, because that partner sale gave me a bit more that a XL standard, but still wondering about "Extend License report"... Without knowing who is their partner, no one can check the prices/options to get an conclusion about royalties. At least is my conclusion.

The only thing it's certain, isn't pixmac. They still refusing accepting my files from partners, even from 123RF... ::)

This happens to someone else? 
« Last Edit: September 08, 2012, 05:27 by Paulo M. F. Pires »


« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2012, 08:35 »
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Hi,
yesterday I got the same PP sale 3x and the same prices.

« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2012, 09:01 »
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I guess we have to stir some sh!t up here on MSG again to let the agency know how we feel about this.

More sales are good no doubt but a transparent business operation would be much more appreciated at least for us contributors!

Since it's in "beta" I'm sure we'll never know who the partners are but it would have been nice to be informed about possible a cooperation with partners as this "partner" or affiliated business is something many contributors have a problem with. You can create at lot of enemies for yourself implementing features like that without any announcements.

I also got one of those sales, didn't know what it was until now. I hope this thing didn't sell originally for $22 though.

« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2012, 09:18 »
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edited:

the EL license on this partner site price is not $22, it's more like $6-7, yes this is the answer i got from them when questioned. it's the lowest EL price among all the sites i'm submitting to. we should together do something about it.
« Last Edit: August 28, 2012, 09:26 by dreamstock »

« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2012, 09:21 »
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this aint acceptable, 12% is quite absurd

« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2012, 17:12 »
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All the images i now send to DP are scaled to the lowest possible resolution. They are competing on price far too heavily. This will result in the downfall of prices elsewhere. I do not see any benefit to supporting further drops in price. Some agencies out there are pushing prices up like IS and SS, if the prices go up everyone earns more.

They like us to be creative with our work, so lets see them be creative about competition with other sites and not just compete on price.

« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2012, 17:57 »
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Complete bullsht ripoff slap in the face to contributors. The pattern is so fkd up: Give away more and more of your EL for less and less.  I once relied on EL to make my month, now MS sites are stealing from that too because they know there's money to be made at our expense.  Good for attracting buyers bad for suppliers. When will they * get it?

« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2012, 02:57 »
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I've deactivated some of my new images because of this EL issue

« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2012, 05:01 »
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I deleted my port there, and other places.

« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2012, 05:26 »
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They should test this on their own expenses! No way that you agreed to sell ELs for less than stated in contract with them... If so then steal is great way for other agencies to copy and paste such business model!

« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2012, 06:07 »
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we should change this thread subject to

"the reason why you shouldn't submit to Depositphotos!"

let's see if that will bring their attention.
« Last Edit: September 04, 2012, 08:50 by dreamstock »

« Reply #11 on: September 04, 2012, 08:33 »
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I got 2 yesterday for 2.76 each and I was quite pleased as it makes a change from all the subs but am now disgusted if they are EL sales!!!

Paulo M. F. Pires

  • "No Gods No Masters"
« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2012, 05:47 »
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Since MSG update I can not see new replies on my own topic...

Anyway, thread subject changed, to all members be aware of this new issue.  I'm not against "Partners Programs", but I'm not interested have my images "offered" anywhere.



Microbius

« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2012, 07:34 »
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I guess we have to stir some sh!t up here on MSG again to let the agency know how we feel about this......
Yeah good luck with that, the rep that was on MSG hasn't been about for a while

Poncke

« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2012, 07:50 »
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There is not much stirring sh*t going on. I guess people are ok with the cheap ELs?

What can be done about this then to get their attention?

« Reply #15 on: September 08, 2012, 07:56 »
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There is not much stirring sh*t going on. I guess people are ok with the cheap ELs?

What can be done about this then to get their attention?

I don't think there is anything you can do to get their attention. Just like all the agencies, as long as contributors are willing to take their $hit, they will continue to dole it out. Look at istock and how much they reamed (and continue to do so) their contributors and yet the agency just sold for how much? Taking advantage of people is big business!  >:(

stan

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« Reply #16 on: September 08, 2012, 08:25 »
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That's exactly the reason why I don't upload to the agencies outside the top 4 and deleted half of my accounts already. Shady business practices all the time. On top of offensively low commissions we get from sales that happen on their sites.

EmberMike

« Reply #17 on: September 08, 2012, 09:17 »
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That's exactly the reason why I don't upload to the agencies outside the top 4 and deleted half of my accounts already. Shady business practices all the time. On top of offensively low commissions we get from sales that happen on their sites.

Again, false. This is just flat-out wrong, and yet you keep saying it in this forum.

Yes, there are a few bad apples among the smaller agencies. But some of the worst business practices come from some of the top 4 companies as well. Fotolia is probably one of the shadiest companies in the business.

And we get some of th highest commissions from small companies. My highest RPD sites are not the top 4.

You're certainly entitled to your opinion about these sites, but gross generalizations based on your opinion of just a few less reputable companies doesn't help anyone.

WarrenPrice

« Reply #18 on: September 08, 2012, 09:28 »
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That's exactly the reason why I don't upload to the agencies outside the top 4 and deleted half of my accounts already. Shady business practices all the time. On top of offensively low commissions we get from sales that happen on their sites.

Again, false. This is just flat-out wrong, and yet you keep saying it in this forum.

Yes, there are a few bad apples among the smaller agencies. But some of the worst business practices come from some of the top 4 companies as well. Fotolia is probably one of the shadiest companies in the business.

And we get some of th highest commissions from small companies. My highest RPD sites are not the top 4.

You're certainly entitled to your opinion about these sites, but gross generalizations based on your opinion of just a few less reputable companies doesn't help anyone.

Plus one.  I saw that and couldn't understand where Stan was coming from.  Does he think the top 4 companies can be trusted more than the smaller ones?

Dream on.

tab62

« Reply #19 on: September 08, 2012, 11:39 »
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Not 'Dream On' but 'Dreams Time'  ;D


« Reply #20 on: September 08, 2012, 11:46 »
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I'm contributor with depositphotos only since one month, they contact me and ask me to send photos if i would.
I think I've made a big mistake because I send them all my files at high resolution and I see they selling 99% of sub for a ridiculous 30c $ (20c ).
That's clear we should never send high resolution files to fotolia or deposit, even in most of the big sites, but 30c is the stingiest ever  >:(
I've just send them an email asking for deleting my portfolio as soon as possible.
I will maybe send my files again at the smallest resolution they accept.

stan

    This user is banned.
« Reply #21 on: September 08, 2012, 11:49 »
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That's exactly the reason why I don't upload to the agencies outside the top 4 and deleted half of my accounts already. Shady business practices all the time. On top of offensively low commissions we get from sales that happen on their sites.

Again, false. This is just flat-out wrong, and yet you keep saying it in this forum.

Yes, there are a few bad apples among the smaller agencies. But some of the worst business practices come from some of the top 4 companies as well. Fotolia is probably one of the shadiest companies in the business.

And we get some of th highest commissions from small companies. My highest RPD sites are not the top 4.

You're certainly entitled to your opinion about these sites, but gross generalizations based on your opinion of just a few less reputable companies doesn't help anyone.

And how does you comment differ in any way? LOL!

« Reply #22 on: September 08, 2012, 11:53 »
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All the agencies are the same: business, and quite greedy. Depositphotos, it seems, has had some success (at least like an start-up)... so, having success, no needing so much more photographers... why not screw them a bit? (That's something that at the very beggining you can't do). The least a business can do is deliver (like IS and SS do) to their suppliers, that's the reason I see no logic in uploading to minor agencies that don't do much, except selling for cents to get some customers and accelerating the race to the bottom.

stan

    This user is banned.
« Reply #23 on: September 08, 2012, 13:51 »
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All the agencies are the same: business, and quite greedy. Depositphotos, it seems, has had some success (at least like an start-up)... so, having success, no needing so much more photographers... why not screw them a bit? (That's something that at the very beggining you can't do). The least a business can do is deliver (like IS and SS do) to their suppliers, that's the reason I see no logic in uploading to minor agencies that don't do much, except selling for cents to get some customers and accelerating the race to the bottom.

Finally a voice of reason! I gave you a heart

« Reply #24 on: September 08, 2012, 14:52 »
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Very disappointed with DP.

Say what you will about 123RF but I still regard them as the best communicators in the business. You may not like their game plan but they're giving us all plenty of time to opt in or opt out.

Good communication conveys: "We are partners. This is our game plan." Poor communication, as DP has recently demonstrated conveys: "You work for us....we do what we want." ....Very disappointing.

The bottom line is, folks, the agencies are empowered. They do what they want because, in the end, they know for every few dozen who drop them, there's a hundred more ready to submit.

We work individually not collectively.  And as long as that's the order of business agencies will do what they * well please.


 

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