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« Reply #25 on: December 07, 2015, 11:02 »
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And a few tips for those of you first starting out....

Invest in a good, solid, stable tripod with a fluid head that allows
you to pan and tilt smoothly. It will cost you but the investment will pay off.

Create a 2 or 3 second "establishing shot" before you pan or tilt when
possible. An example: You want to pan from a bridge to a bumper to
bumper congested highway. Allow 2-3 seconds static on the bridge
before panning to the highway. The bridge is your "establishing shot".
and provides the viewer time to recognize where you are in relation-
ship to the congested highway.

Don't pan or tilt unnecessarily. Movement within the frame is your motivation
for following the action. All-too-often I see clips where pans and/or tilts
are used unnecessarily. The action within the frame is your motivation
for movement in most cases.

AND, if there's movement that you're capturing, use the 3/4 technique.
In other words, don't frame the action center framed. Allow more room
in the framing in front of the action. Example: You're panning as you
follow a race car. Leave more room in front of the car within your framing.
This can be applied to any action you're following. A pedestrian crossing
a street. A bird in flight. You name it.....

Pay attention to how action is captured by professionals. TV and sporting
events should be good reference.

I've been a videographer for many years. When I first started out in
broadcasting I was as raw as they come. I remember one of the directors
tieing a tire to the studio lighting grid and swinging it  back and forth.
He told me to frame the tire with my studio camera as it swung back
and forth on the grid. Sounds simplistic but it helped a greenhorn learn
how to frame properly.

Practice makes perfect. The more quality clips, the more motivated buyers
will be to look to agencies for the shot they need for their production.....


ACS

« Reply #26 on: December 07, 2015, 11:25 »
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And a few tips for those of you first starting out....

Invest in a good, solid, stable tripod with a fluid head that allows
you to pan and tilt smoothly. It will cost you but the investment will pay off.

Create a 2 or 3 second "establishing shot" before you pan or tilt when
possible. An example: You want to pan from a bridge to a bumper to
bumper congested highway. Allow 2-3 seconds static on the bridge
before panning to the highway. The bridge is your "establishing shot".
and provides the viewer time to recognize where you are in relation-
ship to the congested highway.

Don't pan or tilt unnecessarily. Movement within the frame is your motivation
for following the action. All-too-often I see clips where pans and/or tilts
are used unnecessarily. The action within the frame is your motivation
for movement in most cases.

AND, if there's movement that you're capturing, use the 3/4 technique.
In other words, don't frame the action center framed. Allow more room
in the framing in front of the action. Example: You're panning as you
follow a race car. Leave more room in front of the car within your framing.
This can be applied to any action you're following. A pedestrian crossing
a street. A bird in flight. You name it.....

Pay attention to how action is captured by professionals. TV and sporting
events should be good reference.

I've been a videographer for many years. When I first started out in
broadcasting I was as raw as they come. I remember one of the directors
tieing a tire to the studio lighting grid and swinging it  back and forth.
He told me to frame the tire with my studio camera as it swung back
and forth on the grid. Sounds simplistic but it helped a greenhorn learn
how to frame properly.

Practice makes perfect. The more quality clips, the more motivated buyers
will be to look to agencies for the shot they need for their production.....

Thanks. Would you suggest any tripod with fluid head for smooth panning? I have an old Manfrotto probably designed for photography so I can't pan smoothly. My cameras are Sony cx900e and Nikon D5300, not heavy pro things.
« Last Edit: December 07, 2015, 11:44 by ACS »

« Reply #27 on: December 07, 2015, 20:17 »
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"Thanks. Would you suggest any tripod with fluid head for smooth panning?"

Tripods are as individualistic as you are. There are so many factors that play into
the choice you make - and the tripod that best suites your needs. Budget, weight and subject matter (wildlife vs studio setup for example) are, in my opinion, the three  main factors that play into your decision. I love combining cycling with shooting so I need a tripod that's compact, light and can be packed in a saddle bag on the back of my bike (my portfolio with SS and P5, BTW, encompasses everything from landscape/nature/wildlife to outdoor sporting events). What suites me may not be the best choice for you.

Bring your cameras to a store and try out their tripods. Is there one that fits your budget and best suites your needs? Please don't order online before taking it for a test drive!

One last thing I'd like to add: Audio. Wind noise in a clip is a sure sign of an amateur production. I use a lav microphone with a wind sock (about $150 Cdn) to capture audio. Very small. Very versatile. Very clean audio).

« Reply #28 on: December 10, 2015, 09:05 »
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It somewhat related news...

It's been about 2 weeks, pond5 still haven't verified my ID ?.
Is their support typically this slow?

I'm still uploading via ftp though I can't see the clips since my ID hasn't been verified.

By the way, I have now uploaded about 50 clips to SS,P5 and VB...
Havent gotten reviewed yet... So fingers crossed

« Reply #29 on: December 10, 2015, 11:32 »
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for me...
about 1$ per image per month and about 2$ per clip per month.
I'm on many agencies.

probably that shutterstock is half of that average.

500$ would mean about 500 correct clip.

« Reply #30 on: December 10, 2015, 17:47 »
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One good one, or 1000 bad ones.

1000 bad clips could in fact get you one inadvertently good clip, so $500 for the one and $500 for the rest, which is still $1 / clip, which is horrible.

weathernewsonline

« Reply #31 on: December 11, 2015, 07:15 »
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It somewhat related news...

It's been about 2 weeks, pond5 still haven't verified my ID ?.
Is their support typically this slow?

I'm still uploading via ftp though I can't see the clips since my ID hasn't been verified.

By the way, I have now uploaded about 50 clips to SS,P5 and VB...
Havent gotten reviewed yet... So fingers crossed

Email pond5 support directly on the verifying your ID issue just to make sure they got it and all is in order, expect a long wait time for clips to be reviewed at P5 right now, they are swamped and it's been posted by their admin on their forums to expect delays into January before they catch up, even SS reviews have bogged down a bit....keep uploading 24/7 to all three sites, you want 50,000 clips up there not just 50 :)

« Reply #32 on: December 11, 2015, 08:55 »
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Email pond5 support directly on the verifying your ID issue just to make sure they got it and all is in order, expect a long wait time for clips to be reviewed at P5 right now, they are swamped and it's been posted by their admin on their forums to expect delays into January before they catch up, even SS reviews have bogged down a bit....keep uploading 24/7 to all three sites, you want 50,000 clips up there not just 50 :)

Thanks for the heads up...
I'll keep uploading ... and i'll email them as well

« Reply #33 on: December 11, 2015, 12:57 »
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I just just sold a 199$ on Videoblock. Out of nowhere.
I have 1000+ clip there and it's the fist time I sell a 4K clip.
that give me 179$
so that will pimp up my stats !

:D

« Reply #34 on: December 11, 2015, 14:08 »
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One good one, or 1000 bad ones.

1000 bad clips could in fact get you one inadvertently good clip, so $500 for the one and $500 for the rest, which is still $1 / clip, which is horrible.

I think you'll find most people would be very satisfied with $1 per clip/month. I fall shot of that however I'm fairly sure I'm well above the average of what contributors make per clip/month. I have almost 4000 clips of large variety so have plenty of figures to go off.

« Reply #35 on: December 11, 2015, 15:21 »
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I think you'll find most people would be very satisfied with $1 per clip/month. I fall shot of that however I'm fairly sure I'm well above the average of what contributors make per clip/month. I have almost 4000 clips of large variety so have plenty of figures to go off.

Most people also take a quantity over quality approach. That usually doesn't end well.

« Reply #36 on: December 11, 2015, 17:01 »
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I think you'll find most people would be very satisfied with $1 per clip/month. I fall shot of that however I'm fairly sure I'm well above the average of what contributors make per clip/month. I have almost 4000 clips of large variety so have plenty of figures to go off.

Care to share any in detail?

« Reply #37 on: February 06, 2016, 15:13 »
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YIPPPEEEE!!!! :D
SO I just sold my first ever stock footage clip and it was VB, which mean I get $33 after tax.
It's a small amount of money I know... but I thought I should share... took over a month and I currently have about 70 clips on VB and SS.
Time to step it up I guess

alno

« Reply #38 on: February 12, 2016, 04:29 »
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I think very imortant thing is not only number or quality of clips but also lifetime of clip after uploaded. Video related process is long usually and it's quite rare case you have your clip sold after a week or two after upload for example. It also takes some time for the clip to become popular (you can see popularity on SS viewing your own page with default filter Popular applied) although I had some less popular sells.

SS, food and cooking only: $314 total in 6 months, 525 clips, number has increased greatly 2-3 months ago. 12 different clips were sold, some twice.
Here is the gallery: http://www.shutterstock.com/video/gallery/3329813/
 

« Reply #39 on: February 12, 2016, 17:16 »
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SS, food and cooking only: $314 total in 6 months, 525 clips, number has increased greatly 2-3 months ago. 12 different clips were sold, some twice.
Here is the gallery: http://www.shutterstock.com/video/gallery/3329813/
 


Any particular reason why you are SS only? rather than expanding to VB and Pond5 as well?

« Reply #40 on: February 12, 2016, 21:32 »
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4000+ clips for average $300 per month from three agencies. Average per clip 13.3 cents per month.

« Reply #41 on: February 13, 2016, 14:05 »
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4000+ clips for average $300 per month from three agencies. Average per clip 13.3 cents per month.
WOW!
seems like very low numbers for the amount of portfolio
what type of footage do you specialize in?


« Reply #42 on: February 13, 2016, 19:34 »
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4000+ clips for average $300 per month from three agencies. Average per clip 13.3 cents per month.
WOW!
seems like very low numbers for the amount of portfolio
what type of footage do you specialize in?

It's probably about average. IMO many people seriously inflate their figures to make themselves feel better. The reality is there are a lot of clips out there and only a few are doing really well. I take all sorts of subjects, mostly outdoors, nature etc.

« Reply #43 on: February 13, 2016, 19:52 »
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4000+ clips for average $300 per month from three agencies. Average per clip 13.3 cents per month.
WOW!
seems like very low numbers for the amount of portfolio
what type of footage do you specialize in?

It's probably about average. IMO many people seriously inflate their figures to make themselves feel better. The reality is there are a lot of clips out there and only a few are doing really well. I take all sorts of subjects, mostly outdoors, nature etc.

Come on, really? When I say I make a million bucks with my one clip I mean it!! ;D

KB

« Reply #44 on: February 13, 2016, 20:23 »
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4000+ clips for average $300 per month from three agencies. Average per clip 13.3 cents per month.
4000 * 13.3c = $532.00
4500 * 13.3c = $598.50

So I'm confused by "$300 per month from three agencies". I don't know if that means $300 total or $900 total, but neither number matches 13.3 cents per month average.

« Reply #45 on: February 13, 2016, 21:31 »
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4000+ clips for average $300 per month from three agencies. Average per clip 13.3 cents per month.
4000 * 13.3c = $532.00
4500 * 13.3c = $598.50

So I'm confused by "$300 per month from three agencies". I don't know if that means $300 total or $900 total, but neither number matches 13.3 cents per month average.

Yes you are correct, I only earn 7.5 cents per clip per month. Got my maths wrong. Three agencies, $300 from all agencies. People think footage is going to dig them out of their photography hole but they are going to be disappointed.

« Reply #46 on: February 13, 2016, 22:35 »
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4000+ clips for average $300 per month from three agencies. Average per clip 13.3 cents per month.
4000 * 13.3c = $532.00
4500 * 13.3c = $598.50

So I'm confused by "$300 per month from three agencies". I don't know if that means $300 total or $900 total, but neither number matches 13.3 cents per month average.

Yes you are correct, I only earn 7.5 cents per clip per month. Got my maths wrong. Three agencies, $300 from all agencies. People think footage is going to dig them out of their photography hole but they are going to be disappointed.

It's helped me generate hundreds more per month.....way more than I'd be able to do with images. This is a port of about 900 ham n egger generic stuff.

« Reply #47 on: February 14, 2016, 03:08 »
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Yes you are correct, I only earn 7.5 cents per clip per month. Got my maths wrong. Three agencies, $300 from all agencies. People think footage is going to dig them out of their photography hole but they are going to be disappointed.

Different strokes indeed...
My first month of sales on 2 sites so far, about 70 clips averagely and made $55

« Reply #48 on: February 14, 2016, 04:14 »
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For me it is like this with about my average portfolio size on every agency.

good month: about 3$ per clip
bad month: about 2$ per clip

But I have a slow internet connection, so I only upload the best. I am pretty sure my numbers would more be like 0,5$ per month per clip if I uploaded every video.
And to newer agencies I only upload proven sellers.


alno

« Reply #49 on: February 14, 2016, 04:24 »
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SS, food and cooking only: $314 total in 6 months, 525 clips, number has increased greatly 2-3 months ago. 12 different clips were sold, some twice.
Here is the gallery: http://www.shutterstock.com/video/gallery/3329813/
 


Any particular reason why you are SS only? rather than expanding to VB and Pond5 as well?


It's just an example. Other agencies brought less so far.

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