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« on: March 26, 2016, 04:18 »
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Is anyone here selling stock direct on vimeo? Commercial only? Or editorial?

What is your experience?

They pay out 90%, but there is a 199 yearly fee.

It could be worth it, if they put us in control and nobody interfers with my webshop.

I would really love to have a place that puts me completly in control.


« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2016, 08:04 »
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Is anyone here selling stock direct on vimeo? Commercial only? Or editorial?

What is your experience?

They pay out 90%, but there is a 199 yearly fee.

It could be worth it, if they put us in control and nobody interfers with my webshop.

I would really love to have a place that puts me completly in control.

Agree. After the Pond 5 debacle, I am very interested in another new outlet for video.

« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2016, 09:29 »
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I checked this out about a year ago but found it wouldn't work for me at that time. Vimeo's selling program is designed for selling, renting or subscribing to on demand content (ie. short films, video tutorials, etc.) This sounded okay but when I contacted them I learned that the downloaded file was compressed by vimeo. There was no way to allow buyers to download the original uploaded file.

A few small changes for stock footage producers and Vimeo could instantly become a viable alternative for licensing stock footage. Youtube as well for that matter.

Benozaur

« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2016, 10:01 »
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Vimeo is more an outlet for independent film makers. They would be offering a finished product in the form of a film, tutorial course or the like as stockmn pointed out.
Our content as stock producers is geared to a different audience - the filmmakers themselves as opposed to the casual viewer willing to pay a few bucks for a short movie. Vimeo is not a stock outlet nor should it ever be. Who in their right mind would pay $50 or more for anything compressed by Vimeo - simply unusable. A royalty-free license is not part of the package when you pay for anything on Vimeo anyway, you pay for and download a film but you have no fights to use that film...

To think that Vimeo is a viable stock footage platform - other than used as a promotion platform - is simply grasping at straws...

« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2016, 10:33 »
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Thanks for all the info.

Obviously for stock, they would have to offer producer accounts, watermarks, rf or rm and extended licenses we could choose from. And of course offer full quality downloads for the customer.

But they could probably add this and I am sure many, many people would be interested in a "videoshelter" kind of plattform, analog to what photoshelter offers.

My website provider, photodeck, offers me the option to have my own video store, but because of all the vat issues and my fear of fraud, I would be happy to work with a professional storage company and agency.

Does anyone know if Photoshelter would consider expanding their services to video?

Anybody here with personal contacts?

But vimeo and youtube get tons of traffic, like flickr. Offering professional webshops for stock, is that really not interesting for them?

« Reply #5 on: March 26, 2016, 11:39 »
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It would be so great if a reputable brand such as Vimeo or Youtube were to offer stock footage. Custom watermarks, original file downloads, extended licenses, embeddable in your own website so you can sell directly, etcetera.

Imagine if you could offer someone say 10% off sales prices when they sell your Vimeo stock embedded in their website. You'd see hand-curated stock selling websites selling our stuff, while prices and conditions stay in the hands of the us, the producers.

Free moneys!  ;D  ;)

« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2016, 12:04 »
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Every sale with usage of somebody's plateform is not 100% direct. They just give some freedom to do this and this can continue till they allow this. Once comes a moment when owners start to favor some contributors or start promote their own product. All platforms need surveillance to catch the moment of changes. But before - yes, profit from some win-win

« Reply #7 on: March 26, 2016, 12:40 »
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I just wrote to Photoshelter, asking if they would expand their services to include video.

They are not an agency but a very reliable storage plattform.

Actually I am surprised there is nothing out there for videographers, quite a few options for photographers.

For youtube or vimeo this could have been an easy add on.

« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2016, 13:44 »
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I just wrote to Photoshelter, asking if they would expand their services to include video.

They are not an agency but a very reliable storage plattform.

Actually I am surprised there is nothing out there for videographers, quite a few options for photographers.

For youtube or vimeo this could have been an easy add on.
More probably this is a cost question, volume of files and traffic. Photodeck has this feature, but i use it only for clients, not for videostock.

« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2016, 14:03 »
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Yes take a look at photodeck

http://www.photodeck.com/

0% commission.


« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2016, 17:39 »
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I have a photodeck account with several thousandd videos up. It's cool but expensive at $79 a month plus extra storage. I've been thinking of discontinuing it because it isn't paying for itself. I'm a generalist however and it might work out better for someone with a real specific niche.

I'd rather sell with others through a Vimeo or YouTube (if they had the capability). With low or no upfront cost and a 70/30 split favoring the contributor. I like what ccbcc said above about letting 3rd parties curate collections and giving them a 10%-20 commission if a sale is made through their link.

That's crowdsourcing that works for us!
« Last Edit: March 26, 2016, 18:00 by stockmn »

« Reply #11 on: March 26, 2016, 18:49 »
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I am on photodeck, but worried about problems that can arise from direct sales. I am happy to pay for the whole accounting, vat etc...stuff.

But together with others, either through a dedicated stock producer channel or a virtual agency on a storage plattform, there will be more traffic. That could be interesting.

I still dont understand why pond5 is driving producers away, but this is an excellent opportunity for someone to step in and offer us good webshops.
« Last Edit: March 26, 2016, 19:24 by cobalt »

alno

« Reply #12 on: March 27, 2016, 01:05 »
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I still dont understand why pond5 is driving producers away, but this is an excellent opportunity for someone to step in and offer us good webshops.

I'm just curious about numerous complaints on Pond5. 258 clips were submitted, 6 were rejected several days ago. Review time was about 3 weeks. This month is best month ever already. Pond5 is one of two or three professional sites which simply CAN sell footage on regular basis. Almost all other agencies just send me some 'inspiring' spam-like trash instead of sales reports.

« Reply #13 on: March 27, 2016, 01:49 »
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Itś good to hear it is still working for some people.

But the number of complaints is very widely spread in the producer community and too abrupt to be ignored.

Many of us have seen this before, new management comes in with all kinds of plans without really understanding the industry.

I simply cant afford to wait, until it gets worse, I have to start looking at other agencies and I would love to have my own webshop somewhere.

The video stock market is in a very, very early stage, only 4 million files, and maybe 500 000 4k videos. This is nothing.

So having my own shop in addition to supplying more agencies could be the right time to do it.

I really loved pond5, their marketplace approach was excellent.

But of course the owners can do whatever they want with their agency, we have no influence.

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