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Lagereek

« Reply #25 on: August 05, 2012, 00:24 »
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And I just meant that I agree with all the other stuff but think that the economy is still a factor ... a lagging indicator in the case of microstock because it was, at first, the place to turn as budgets tightened.

How can one blame the world economy, Obama or the Russians or Sadam or the sunamis or the plain-crashes or the hunger, starvations, etc, etc, etc,  for the STUPIDITY, of micro stock agencies? beats me. ;D ;D ;D ::) throwing crap at their own doorsteps?


ShadySue

« Reply #26 on: August 05, 2012, 05:08 »
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And I just meant that I agree with all the other stuff but think that the economy is still a factor ... a lagging indicator in the case of microstock because it was, at first, the place to turn as budgets tightened.

How can one blame the world economy, Obama or the Russians or Sadam or the sunamis or the plain-crashes or the hunger, starvations, etc, etc, etc,  for the STUPIDITY, of micro stock agencies? beats me. ;D ;D ;D ::) throwing crap at their own doorsteps?

What I don't understand is WHY, with your supadupa macro ports which are doing stunningly despite the recession, you even bother to upload to the 'STUPID' micros who don't even see the sense of putting your images at the top of all searches? As you so often say, you have unique, released topics which are difficult to come by, and certainly not on the micros, and a huge swathe of personal buyers beating your door down.
Why do you undercut yourself on the micros? If you weren't there, they'd have to contact you directly or go to one of your macros. It's not like an isolated apple, where people can choose the lowest price or (probably) get CC somewhere. It's your life and your business plan, but it seems to make no logical sense - based on what you yourself say.

Lagereek

« Reply #27 on: August 05, 2012, 06:12 »
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And I just meant that I agree with all the other stuff but think that the economy is still a factor ... a lagging indicator in the case of microstock because it was, at first, the place to turn as budgets tightened.

How can one blame the world economy, Obama or the Russians or Sadam or the sunamis or the plain-crashes or the hunger, starvations, etc, etc, etc,  for the STUPIDITY, of micro stock agencies? beats me. ;D ;D ;D ::) throwing crap at their own doorsteps?

What I don't understand is WHY, with your supadupa macro ports which are doing stunningly despite the recession, you even bother to upload to the 'STUPID' micros who don't even see the sense of putting your images at the top of all searches? As you so often say, you have unique, released topics which are difficult to come by, and certainly not on the micros, and a huge swathe of personal buyers beating your door down.
Why do you undercut yourself on the micros? If you weren't there, they'd have to contact you directly or go to one of your macros. It's not like an isolated apple, where people can choose the lowest price or (probably) get CC somewhere. It's your life and your business plan, but it seems to make no logical sense - based on what you yourself say.

Come, come now Sue, dont get your knickers in a twist. There is no need for inferiority complex here, resulting in the lowest form of witt, Sarcasm, steady yourself and just tell me how a Scotish lass is doing at IS, good or bad?

ShadySue

« Reply #28 on: August 05, 2012, 06:30 »
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And I just meant that I agree with all the other stuff but think that the economy is still a factor ... a lagging indicator in the case of microstock because it was, at first, the place to turn as budgets tightened.

How can one blame the world economy, Obama or the Russians or Sadam or the sunamis or the plain-crashes or the hunger, starvations, etc, etc, etc,  for the STUPIDITY, of micro stock agencies? beats me. ;D ;D ;D ::) throwing crap at their own doorsteps?

What I don't understand is WHY, with your supadupa macro ports which are doing stunningly despite the recession, you even bother to upload to the 'STUPID' micros who don't even see the sense of putting your images at the top of all searches? As you so often say, you have unique, released topics which are difficult to come by, and certainly not on the micros, and a huge swathe of personal buyers beating your door down.
Why do you undercut yourself on the micros? If you weren't there, they'd have to contact you directly or go to one of your macros. It's not like an isolated apple, where people can choose the lowest price or (probably) get CC somewhere. It's your life and your business plan, but it seems to make no logical sense - based on what you yourself say.

Come, come now Sue, dont get your knickers in a twist. There is no need for inferiority complex here, resulting in the lowest form of witt, Sarcasm, steady yourself and just tell me how a Scotish lass is doing at IS, good or bad?
Who was being sarcastic? Not me, in this case.
And 'lousy this month'  :o; but the other thread says that's nothing to worry about.
July was my BMY for $$, but only because of ELs, which just shows what a tiny fish I am.
My BME remains Nov 2008 (sic), by miles.

Lagereek

« Reply #29 on: August 05, 2012, 06:51 »
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And I just meant that I agree with all the other stuff but think that the economy is still a factor ... a lagging indicator in the case of microstock because it was, at first, the place to turn as budgets tightened.

How can one blame the world economy, Obama or the Russians or Sadam or the sunamis or the plain-crashes or the hunger, starvations, etc, etc, etc,  for the STUPIDITY, of micro stock agencies? beats me. ;D ;D ;D ::) throwing crap at their own doorsteps?

What I don't understand is WHY, with your supadupa macro ports which are doing stunningly despite the recession, you even bother to upload to the 'STUPID' micros who don't even see the sense of putting your images at the top of all searches? As you so often say, you have unique, released topics which are difficult to come by, and certainly not on the micros, and a huge swathe of personal buyers beating your door down.
Why do you undercut yourself on the micros? If you weren't there, they'd have to contact you directly or go to one of your macros. It's not like an isolated apple, where people can choose the lowest price or (probably) get CC somewhere. It's your life and your business plan, but it seems to make no logical sense - based on what you yourself say.

Come, come now Sue, dont get your knickers in a twist. There is no need for inferiority complex here, resulting in the lowest form of witt, Sarcasm, steady yourself and just tell me how a Scotish lass is doing at IS, good or bad?
Who was being sarcastic? Not me, in this case.
And 'lousy this month'  :o; but the other thread says that's nothing to worry about.
July was my BMY for $$, but only because of ELs, which just shows what a tiny fish I am.
My BME remains Nov 2008 (sic), by miles.

Cheers!  blimey, dont seem to be too many doing well over there, exclusive or not. Mind you things are not too much brighter here, what!  with the new SS search and everything. Poverty stricken micro times ahead.  :)

« Reply #30 on: August 05, 2012, 07:51 »
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Well, regarding the economy, it does have an impact on MS, both ways.  I know personally three business owners who have stopped purchasing credit packages due to the tough economic times.  In as much as possible, they are regurgitating older images to use in new messaging.  So the economy, overall, does play a role in MS.  The issue is that it's perhaps far more subtle and transparent to the contributor than the changes the agencies made.  On the flip side, the company I work for is pushing MS to its marketing department as an alternative to custom photo shoots because it's far less expensive.  So for those companies who are still looking for fresh material, but tightening their belts, MS is an alternative, and a potentially big alternative, to large photo shoots.  Believe me, I work for a company who relies heavily on color and visual impact to sell their products and for them to turn more to MS is, for us anyway, positive.  Bad for the traditional studio pros who rely on these custom shoots for income, though.

Wim

« Reply #31 on: August 05, 2012, 10:46 »
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And I just meant that I agree with all the other stuff but think that the economy is still a factor ... a lagging indicator in the case of microstock because it was, at first, the place to turn as budgets tightened.

How can one blame the world economy, Obama or the Russians or Sadam or the sunamis or the plain-crashes or the hunger, starvations, etc, etc, etc,  for the STUPIDITY, of micro stock agencies? beats me. ;D ;D ;D ::) throwing crap at their own doorsteps?

What I don't understand is WHY, with your supadupa macro ports which are doing stunningly despite the recession, you even bother to upload to the 'STUPID' micros who don't even see the sense of putting your images at the top of all searches? As you so often say, you have unique, released topics which are difficult to come by, and certainly not on the micros, and a huge swathe of personal buyers beating your door down.
Why do you undercut yourself on the micros? If you weren't there, they'd have to contact you directly or go to one of your macros. It's not like an isolated apple, where people can choose the lowest price or (probably) get CC somewhere. It's your life and your business plan, but it seems to make no logical sense - based on what you yourself say.

Very good point Sue.
Lagereek isn't the only one btw, I've seen a lot more tormenting themselves like this and I'm baffled why they keep on doing this.
I know I wouldn't be messing around with micro's if I had a good income from macro, that's just plain stupid if you ask me.
The extra $$$ seems to be worth all the hassle to them? I rather have less $$$ and feel good about myself, my work and the agencies I work with.

Have you guys checked the Refunds thread (Vectorbomb) btw? disgusting really, it gets worse every day!
« Last Edit: August 05, 2012, 10:48 by Wim »

Lagereek

« Reply #32 on: August 05, 2012, 11:51 »
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And I just meant that I agree with all the other stuff but think that the economy is still a factor ... a lagging indicator in the case of microstock because it was, at first, the place to turn as budgets tightened.

How can one blame the world economy, Obama or the Russians or Sadam or the sunamis or the plain-crashes or the hunger, starvations, etc, etc, etc,  for the STUPIDITY, of micro stock agencies? beats me. ;D ;D ;D ::) throwing crap at their own doorsteps?

What I don't understand is WHY, with your supadupa macro ports which are doing stunningly despite the recession, you even bother to upload to the 'STUPID' micros who don't even see the sense of putting your images at the top of all searches? As you so often say, you have unique, released topics which are difficult to come by, and certainly not on the micros, and a huge swathe of personal buyers beating your door down.
Why do you undercut yourself on the micros? If you weren't there, they'd have to contact you directly or go to one of your macros. It's not like an isolated apple, where people can choose the lowest price or (probably) get CC somewhere. It's your life and your business plan, but it seems to make no logical sense - based on what you yourself say.

Very good point Sue.
Lagereek isn't the only one btw, I've seen a lot more tormenting themselves like this and I'm baffled why they keep on doing this.
I know I wouldn't be messing around with micro's if I had a good income from macro, that's just plain stupid if you ask me.
The extra $$$ seems to be worth all the hassle to them? I rather have less $$$ and feel good about myself, my work and the agencies I work with.

Have you guys checked the Refunds thread (Vectorbomb) btw? disgusting really, it gets worse every day!

Wim! sometimes you talk such a load of cobblers its unbelievable, you sound like some kid, somebody just happend to drop in the micro lap. Nobody is tormenting themselves, nobody, as far as the OP, Im asking a question, thats all, curious, thats all, got nothing to do with me or macro or anything, just a question, now please if you cant contribute to the thread, then kindly refrain from either reading it, let alon answering it and if you do, please dont sound like some degenrate coming in from the sticks.

As far as extra bucks, well if you can call way above a 5-figured monthly amount in micro alone, just some extra cash? well buddy, then you certainly dont need all the extra advice you keep asking ppl, in all you private mails to them.

Your postings are becoming more and more childish and patronizing and all your postings on my private mail, well sometimes I feel Im dealing with a 5 year old.

so long buddy.
« Last Edit: August 05, 2012, 11:56 by Lagereek »

Wim

« Reply #33 on: August 05, 2012, 13:06 »
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So long? advice from you or others? can you bloody believe this guy, amazing.

Please report here asap guys because I can't tell one person that has given me any advice.
As for you, what advice is that, invest in macro, go with Getty-RM house collection? wow, that's some advice. Any other advice you have given me? feel free to post it right here in this thread.

You are a piece of work you know that, you think you're getting rid of me with posts like that? to you everyone here is worth crap, all noobs, dilletantes, and what not.
The only thing you care about is bragging about your own success and your work dominating every search.

The only one that can get rid of me is Tyler and why he has put up with your attitude for this long is beyond me, a bloody shame to let people like you even into this forum.

ps. a God Complex can be treated.

ShadySue

« Reply #34 on: August 05, 2012, 13:09 »
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How can one blame the world economy, Obama or the Russians or Sadam or the sunamis or the plain-crashes or the hunger, starvations, etc, etc, etc,  for the STUPIDITY, of micro stock agencies? beats me. ;D ;D ;D ::) throwing crap at their own doorsteps?
...

Wim! sometimes you talk such a load of cobblers its unbelievable, you sound like some kid, somebody just happend to drop in the micro lap.

Pot, meet Kettle.

vonkara

« Reply #35 on: August 05, 2012, 13:28 »
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You might sell to less people but at least you don't sell for 35 cents. I am tormented by all the rumors of changes with Getty and everything though, but that is all. Here is a sample of what you get from a Exclusive + file. (old E+)

« Last Edit: August 05, 2012, 13:30 by Vonkara »

WarrenPrice

« Reply #36 on: August 05, 2012, 13:41 »
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How can one blame the world economy, Obama or the Russians or Sadam or the sunamis or the plain-crashes or the hunger, starvations, etc, etc, etc,  for the STUPIDITY, of micro stock agencies? beats me. ;D ;D ;D ::) throwing crap at their own doorsteps?
...

Wim! sometimes you talk such a load of cobblers its unbelievable, you sound like some kid, somebody just happend to drop in the micro lap.

Pot, meet Kettle.

 ;D ;D ;D

« Reply #37 on: August 05, 2012, 14:30 »
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You might sell to less people but at least you don't sell for 35 cents. I am tormented by all the rumors of changes with Getty and everything though, but that is all. Here is a sample of what you get from a Exclusive + file. (old E+)



Not all the istock exclusives have reported drops in $$$$.  Sean is about the same as last year.  If someone in Istock's top five is as good as ever then people on here can't say the sky is falling for everyone.  There is just a spreading of the wealth.  If you have dropped a lot of income then you have not uploaded quality images or your talent is not keeping you up with the competition.  Simple as that.  If someone is still doing great then you could too.  The easy money is gone.

I can't image the income Yuri would had have with agency and vetta considering the possibility of e+.  A lot of money was left on the table messing around with subscription sites.

Lagereek

« Reply #38 on: August 05, 2012, 14:33 »
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So long? advice from you or others? can you bloody believe this guy, amazing.

Please report here asap guys because I can't tell one person that has given me any advice.
As for you, what advice is that, invest in macro, go with Getty-RM house collection? wow, that's some advice. Any other advice you have given me? feel free to post it right here in this thread.

You are a piece of work you know that, you think you're getting rid of me with posts like that? to you everyone here is worth crap, all noobs, dilletantes, and what not.
The only thing you care about is bragging about your own success and your work dominating every search.

The only one that can get rid of me is Tyler and why he has put up with your attitude for this long is beyond me, a bloody shame to let people like you even into this forum.

ps. a God Complex can be treated.

Go away wim, find some soft toy to play with. I know exactly the people you been jiddering with, one even asked me if you were quite OK?. Create your own threads instead of clinging to others. OH, btw, you did get wrong advice in every mail, none trusted you.
« Last Edit: August 05, 2012, 14:38 by Lagereek »

ShadySue

« Reply #39 on: August 05, 2012, 14:34 »
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Not all the istock exclusives have reported drops in $$$$.  Sean is about the same as last year.  If someone in Istock's top five is as good as ever then people on here can't say the sky is falling for everyone. 
He's not sounding happy with how things are going.
I'm sure he'll chip in personally, but on the iStock thread, he said:
"Worst month of the year for both dollars and dls. My dls chart looks like a playground slide. This month, about 40% less dls then Feb of the year (2012 high point), which means my dls are likely at 2006-7 levels. Hugely disappointing, since I am very happy with the look, quality and variety of my recent uploads."

Wim

« Reply #40 on: August 05, 2012, 16:06 »
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So long? advice from you or others? can you bloody believe this guy, amazing.

Please report here asap guys because I can't tell one person that has given me any advice.
As for you, what advice is that, invest in macro, go with Getty-RM house collection? wow, that's some advice. Any other advice you have given me? feel free to post it right here in this thread.

You are a piece of work you know that, you think you're getting rid of me with posts like that? to you everyone here is worth crap, all noobs, dilletantes, and what not.
The only thing you care about is bragging about your own success and your work dominating every search.

The only one that can get rid of me is Tyler and why he has put up with your attitude for this long is beyond me, a bloody shame to let people like you even into this forum.

ps. a God Complex can be treated.

Go away wim, find some soft toy to play with. I know exactly the people you been jiddering with, one even asked me if you were quite OK?. Create your own threads instead of clinging to others. OH, btw, you did get wrong advice in every mail, none trusted you.

bla bla, keep trying fool  ::)

lisafx

« Reply #41 on: August 05, 2012, 16:22 »
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Not all the istock exclusives have reported drops in $$$$.  Sean is about the same as last year.  If someone in Istock's top five is as good as ever then people on here can't say the sky is falling for everyone. 
He's not sounding happy with how things are going.
I'm sure he'll chip in personally, but on the iStock thread, he said:
"Worst month of the year for both dollars and dls. My dls chart looks like a playground slide. This month, about 40% less dls then Feb of the year (2012 high point), which means my dls are likely at 2006-7 levels. Hugely disappointing, since I am very happy with the look, quality and variety of my recent uploads."

I read that too.  Doesn't sound to promising to me.  Not sure where pro@ is getting the information he's using to form his opinions. 

traveler1116

« Reply #42 on: August 05, 2012, 17:09 »
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Not all the istock exclusives have reported drops in $$$$.  Sean is about the same as last year.  If someone in Istock's top five is as good as ever then people on here can't say the sky is falling for everyone. 
He's not sounding happy with how things are going.
I'm sure he'll chip in personally, but on the iStock thread, he said:
"Worst month of the year for both dollars and dls. My dls chart looks like a playground slide. This month, about 40% less dls then Feb of the year (2012 high point), which means my dls are likely at 2006-7 levels. Hugely disappointing, since I am very happy with the look, quality and variety of my recent uploads."

I read that too.  Doesn't sound to promising to me.  Not sure where pro@ is getting the information he's using to form his opinions. 
I could have sworn that Sean posted he was up in royalties compared to last year too, but when I went back to find the quote I couldn't so maybe I'm misremembering or maybe he deleted that part? 

ShadySue

« Reply #43 on: August 05, 2012, 17:28 »
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Not all the istock exclusives have reported drops in $$$$.  Sean is about the same as last year.  If someone in Istock's top five is as good as ever then people on here can't say the sky is falling for everyone. 
He's not sounding happy with how things are going.
I'm sure he'll chip in personally, but on the iStock thread, he said:
"Worst month of the year for both dollars and dls. My dls chart looks like a playground slide. This month, about 40% less dls then Feb of the year (2012 high point), which means my dls are likely at 2006-7 levels. Hugely disappointing, since I am very happy with the look, quality and variety of my recent uploads."

I read that too.  Doesn't sound to promising to me.  Not sure where pro@ is getting the information he's using to form his opinions. 
I could have sworn that Sean posted he was up in royalties compared to last year too, but when I went back to find the quote I couldn't so maybe I'm misremembering or maybe he deleted that part? 
The post isn't showing as having been edited, but I'm sure he'll post here soon and speak for himself.
In the How was your June 2012 thread, he wrote: "For $$$, #3 best (4th worst) out of this year. Worse than any month last year except December (by just 1%)."

In the May '12 thread, he wrote: "Still down 20% in $$$ from last May. Worse than any month last year except December."

In the April '12 thread, he wrote: "Things just get worse and worse. $$$ down more than 20% from last year. DLs down more than 30%.
Worst month of this year, so far, even worse than January. Made more in December than April. IS seems to be in a free fall slide for anyone who needs more than an extra DL or two to have a BME."

lisafx

« Reply #44 on: August 05, 2012, 17:43 »
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The post isn't showing as having been edited, but I'm sure he'll post here soon and speak for himself.
In the How was your June 2012 thread, he wrote: "For $$$, #3 best (4th worst) out of this year. Worse than any month last year except December (by just 1%)."

In the May '12 thread, he wrote: "Still down 20% in $$$ from last May. Worse than any month last year except December."

In the April '12 thread, he wrote: "Things just get worse and worse. $$$ down more than 20% from last year. DLs down more than 30%.
Worst month of this year, so far, even worse than January. Made more in December than April. IS seems to be in a free fall slide for anyone who needs more than an extra DL or two to have a BME."


Here's a gal who does her research!  :D

« Reply #45 on: August 05, 2012, 17:44 »
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Lol...

No, I'm certainly not up from last year.  Even, in $$$ some months, maybe.

traveler1116

« Reply #46 on: August 05, 2012, 17:52 »
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Lol...

No, I'm certainly not up from last year.  Even, in $$$ some months, maybe.
I guess I misremembered then, but that statement is a little cryptic.

« Reply #47 on: August 05, 2012, 17:56 »
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Some months have made the same as the same month last year.  Most are less.

« Reply #48 on: August 05, 2012, 18:10 »
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Some months have made the same as the same month last year.  Most are less.

Not sure what the delta is July 2011 to July 2012 in portfolio size, but I recall in some earlier reports you had said your portfolio had grown by a couple of thousand images over the prior year. Given price increases and portfolio growth year to year, I would view staying even as a pretty poor result.

And I don't mean that you did poorly - I'm criticizing your agent, not you, your images or the effort you're putting in. I occasionally get ticked by the contingent that complains the only ones complaining are those not putting in the requisite effort - I think they just need to believe everything's wonderful to avoid acknowledging that this can happen to them too.

ShadySue

« Reply #49 on: August 05, 2012, 18:25 »
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I occasionally get ticked by the contingent that complains the only ones complaining are those not putting in the requisite effort
Joann: I'm glad that you mentioned this, as I posted earlier that some complaining had very few images in their port (for long-standing ports of 5+ years) and had uploaded little or nothing this year.
I should have been more clear and said that I understand that circumstances can change so that someone can't upload as much as before, and/or it's extremely demotivating to put in the effort and not get results, so people might pursue other income streams.


 

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