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« Reply #25 on: January 22, 2011, 19:14 »
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I just created a private group called  "Top Tier Non-Exclusive Microstockers". Basically,  to participate your total downloads from iStock, Fotolia and/or Dreamstime must be over 30,000. This could be a combination of all or any of the three. For approval you must give home links of to those sites to show your credential. As well you must be a non-exclusive.  

Thanks Tyler, this is an awesome initiative.    Denis

I'm happy you like the site.
I'm glad you took the initiative to create a group - we now have three sort of similar groups though.  Full time microstock photographers (which I started), where I said you had to have over 1000 images and earn over 50% of your income from microstock, RT's group (Diamond group) which you have to have diamond on istock or gold on fotolia, and then your group with total downloads over 30,000.  I think we may be spreading ourselves a little thin with three groups?  I would imagine many of the same people would be in all the groups... perhaps I should make you an admin of the group I started already and we can drive that one together?

Bummer. I might actually fit into Denis' group, except my 30,000 are from IS and SS, not FT. Oh well. I'll wait until the dust settles and see if I fit anywhere. If not, no biggie. I really should be doing more actual work, instead of spending time talking about doing work.  ;)


« Reply #26 on: January 22, 2011, 19:19 »
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I just created a private group called  "Top Tier Non-Exclusive Microstockers". Basically,  to participate your total downloads from iStock, Fotolia and/or Dreamstime must be over 30,000. This could be a combination of all or any of the three. For approval you must give home links of to those sites to show your credential. As well you must be a non-exclusive.  

Thanks Tyler, this is an awesome initiative.    Denis

I'm happy you like the site.
I'm glad you took the initiative to create a group - we now have three sort of similar groups though.  Full time microstock photographers (which I started), where I said you had to have over 1000 images and earn over 50% of your income from microstock, RT's group (Diamond group) which you have to have diamond on istock or gold on fotolia, and then your group with total downloads over 30,000.  I think we may be spreading ourselves a little thin with three groups?  I would imagine many of the same people would be in all the groups... perhaps I should make you an admin of the group I started already and we can drive that one together?

The conditions should include other aspects too. I think Denis' is the most appropiate. For example, I am in top tier at SS - 0.38 (which means at least about 30k sales by itself if I'm not mistaking), but I am bronze at istock with only 300 files, because their upload system was too much for my patience. However, I am full time on photography (mostly stock).

Yeah it is really tricky to know where to draw a line or how to draw it.

I have let iStock slide a lot as well while Dreamstime and Shutterstock sales look a lot better.  The group I already started could change it's 'rules' a bit - my main point was that perhaps the groups were similar enough that they could be combined.  

.. or on second thought, if our 'requirements' are different enough, then perhaps is is OK to have a few different groups?!
« Last Edit: January 22, 2011, 19:42 by leaf »

« Reply #27 on: January 22, 2011, 19:34 »
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What is the purpose of that site in first place?
If someone want privately jabber with same from same "club" kind of matter he/she/it can do it by irc, icq, sype, msn, or other hundredth of chat applications in real time if they want...

RT


« Reply #28 on: January 22, 2011, 19:37 »
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What is the purpose of that site in first place?
If someone want privately jabber with same from same "club" kind of matter he/she/it can do it by irc, icq, sype, msn, or other hundredth of chat applications in real time if they want...

Or write a letter pin it on a noticeboard and hope everyone sees it  ::)

« Reply #29 on: January 22, 2011, 20:13 »
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What is the purpose of that site in first place?
If someone want privately jabber with same from same "club" kind of matter he/she/it can do it by irc, icq, sype, msn, or other hundredth of chat applications in real time if they want...

Or write a letter pin it on a noticeboard and hope everyone sees it  ::)

Or to make "Hire me" site. Im the Master blaster  ;D
Anyhow to make lets say new media for guys btw floor and sky...
Dont be insulted with this above. As I see this forum will bee for new (under ground floor) Kids in the block(Stock) with ignore buttons and Microstock.me with ignore buttons in first place?
Or it is another "Dear my diary site"????
Light me up what is so brilliant, unbelievable, indescribable that I can not live without whats happening there?
OK this MSG forum for me blah has/have purpose.... blah... blah...  another time

« Reply #30 on: January 22, 2011, 20:43 »
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I just created a private group called  "Top Tier Non-Exclusive Microstockers". Basically,  to participate your total downloads from iStock, Fotolia and/or Dreamstime must be over 30,000. This could be a combination of all or any of the three. For approval you must give home links of to those sites to show your credential. As well you must be a non-exclusive.  

Thanks Tyler, this is an awesome initiative.    Denis

I'm happy you like the site.
I'm glad you took the initiative to create a group - we now have three sort of similar groups though.  Full time microstock photographers (which I started), where I said you had to have over 1000 images and earn over 50% of your income from microstock, RT's group (Diamond group) which you have to have diamond on istock or gold on fotolia, and then your group with total downloads over 30,000.  I think we may be spreading ourselves a little thin with three groups?  I would imagine many of the same people would be in all the groups... perhaps I should make you an admin of the group I started already and we can drive that one together?

The conditions should include other aspects too. I think Denis' is the most appropiate. For example, I am in top tier at SS - 0.38 (which means at least about 30k sales by itself if I'm not mistaking), but I am bronze at istock with only 300 files, because their upload system was too much for my patience. However, I am full time on photography (mostly stock).

Yeah it is really tricky to know where to draw a line or how to draw it.

I have let iStock slide a lot as well while Dreamstime and Shutterstock sales look a lot better.  The group I already started could change it's 'rules' a bit - my main point was that perhaps the groups were similar enough that they could be combined.  

.. or on second thought, if our 'requirements' are different enough, then perhaps is is OK to have a few different groups?!

Tyler,

True those three groups would be overlapping each others; however I found that each one of the other two groups to be a little restrictive in ways that really should not be on some other equally productive microstockers.

Regarding your created group the full time microstock photographers, I found that having to earn over 50% of your income from microstock  will give you too much of a wide spectrum of microstockers as the cost of living varies from one part of the world to the other.  What about the guy that makes 75K dollars a year at something else, should we expect him making 75K in microstock as well? What about another one that makes 15K at something else, then the requirement for this particular person would only be 15K?  But then again, perhaps that is the requirements that you want which is fine too.

And then the Diamond group, again we are missing other equally productive microstockers.  As you say it is really tricky to draw a line or how to draw it.

In my case I would not be able to apply in either one of those two groups, however I do believe to be at least as equally productive.  This is why I created this group as I think you would get very productive discussions with microstockers from the top tier.

Xalanx mentioned SS 0.38 per download which would indicate in fact over 30K downloads.  That is another variable that could be used to identify someone, if only those 0.38 cents could be publicly seen.

By totalling downloads from microstock sites that we know, we can easily draw a line that would be equally fair for everybody regardless of where you are from.   Denis

« Reply #31 on: January 23, 2011, 00:19 »
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I've added a group called Microstock Blogs, a public group for bloggers and those who like to read blogs. Here's the link http://www.microstock.me/groups/microstock-blogs-912218231/

« Reply #32 on: January 23, 2011, 04:41 »
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I just created a private group called  "Top Tier Non-Exclusive Microstockers". Basically,  to participate your total downloads from iStock, Fotolia and/or Dreamstime must be over 30,000. This could be a combination of all or any of the three. For approval you must give home links of to those sites to show your credential. As well you must be a non-exclusive.  

Thanks Tyler, this is an awesome initiative.    Denis

I'm happy you like the site.
I'm glad you took the initiative to create a group - we now have three sort of similar groups though.  Full time microstock photographers (which I started), where I said you had to have over 1000 images and earn over 50% of your income from microstock, RT's group (Diamond group) which you have to have diamond on istock or gold on fotolia, and then your group with total downloads over 30,000.  I think we may be spreading ourselves a little thin with three groups?  I would imagine many of the same people would be in all the groups... perhaps I should make you an admin of the group I started already and we can drive that one together?

The conditions should include other aspects too. I think Denis' is the most appropiate. For example, I am in top tier at SS - 0.38 (which means at least about 30k sales by itself if I'm not mistaking), but I am bronze at istock with only 300 files, because their upload system was too much for my patience. However, I am full time on photography (mostly stock).

Yeah it is really tricky to know where to draw a line or how to draw it.

I have let iStock slide a lot as well while Dreamstime and Shutterstock sales look a lot better.  The group I already started could change it's 'rules' a bit - my main point was that perhaps the groups were similar enough that they could be combined.  

.. or on second thought, if our 'requirements' are different enough, then perhaps is is OK to have a few different groups?!

Tyler,

True those three groups would be overlapping each others; however I found that each one of the other two groups to be a little restrictive in ways that really should not be on some other equally productive microstockers.

Regarding your created group the full time microstock photographers, I found that having to earn over 50% of your income from microstock  will give you too much of a wide spectrum of microstockers as the cost of living varies from one part of the world to the other.  What about the guy that makes 75K dollars a year at something else, should we expect him making 75K in microstock as well? What about another one that makes 15K at something else, then the requirement for this particular person would only be 15K?  But then again, perhaps that is the requirements that you want which is fine too.

And then the Diamond group, again we are missing other equally productive microstockers.  As you say it is really tricky to draw a line or how to draw it.

In my case I would not be able to apply in either one of those two groups, however I do believe to be at least as equally productive.  This is why I created this group as I think you would get very productive discussions with microstockers from the top tier.

Xalanx mentioned SS 0.38 per download which would indicate in fact over 30K downloads.  That is another variable that could be used to identify someone, if only those 0.38 cents could be publicly seen.

By totalling downloads from microstock sites that we know, we can easily draw a line that would be equally fair for everybody regardless of where you are from.   Denis

Yeah, i understand what you are saying.  perhaps it is just best to keep the groups how they are.  I wanted to create a group for people who are Dependant on their microstock income for their livelihood which is why i chose the 50% amount.  Even if it is a different amount for different people, it would still 'mean' the same thing to each of them

« Reply #33 on: January 23, 2011, 07:07 »
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Yeah, i understand what you are saying.  perhaps it is just best to keep the groups how they are.  I wanted to create a group for people who are Dependant on their microstock income for their livelihood which is why i chose the 50% amount.  Even if it is a different amount for different people, it would still 'mean' the same thing to each of them

Of course, and those people dependant on microstock would definetly have a higher priority, be more active and passionate in discussions . Thanks Tyler, you are a true gentleman. 

« Reply #34 on: January 23, 2011, 13:12 »
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If I sign up, I will create my own group of myself only, I don't seem to fit any of those.  ;D

« Reply #35 on: January 23, 2011, 13:17 »
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I just created a private group called  "Top Tier Non-Exclusive Microstockers". Basically,  to participate your total downloads from iStock, Fotolia and/or Dreamstime must be over 30,000. This could be a combination of all or any of the three. For approval you must give home links of to those sites to show your credential. As well you must be a non-exclusive.  

Thanks Tyler, this is an awesome initiative.    Denis


Regarding the above, in trying to attract the participation of other worthwhile and equally productive microstockers, I added a few more conditions which I hope will help members to join in. Here are those conditions:

To participate you must satisfy one of the four conditions below:

1- Your total downloads from iStock, Fotolia and/or Dreamstime must be over 30,000. This could be a combination of all or any of the three, or

2- Your total downloads from iStock, Fotolia and/or Dreamstime must be over 20,000. This could be a combination of all or any of the three.  And you must have a 1200+ images Shutterstock account with a commission subscription rate of $0.38, or

3- Your total downloads from iStock, Fotolia and/or Dreamstime must be over 10,000. This could be a combination of all or any of the three.  And you must have a 4000+ images Shutterstock account with a commission subscription rate of $0.38, or

4- You are presently an iStock Diamond and became a non-exclusive after Sep 1st, 2010. And you must have your images published with at least one other popular microstock agency.

For approval you must give home links of those sites discussed above to show your credential. As well you must be a non-exclusive.


Below is the link to join in:

http://www.microstock.me/groups/top-tier-non-exclusive-microstockers/
« Last Edit: January 25, 2011, 13:37 by cybernesco »

« Reply #36 on: January 23, 2011, 13:33 »
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I joined.  Will take a proper look when I get more time.  There have been times when it would of been useful to have a more private place to discuss things.  Would be nice if it could all be done here but perhaps this is the best option.

« Reply #37 on: January 23, 2011, 13:40 »
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Bottom one is better guys come on :)

« Reply #38 on: January 23, 2011, 17:29 »
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If I sign up, I will create my own group of myself only, I don't seem to fit any of those.  ;D

That's good one. Let's make group for cat owners, dog owners, left handed, blue eyed, etc...

« Reply #39 on: January 23, 2011, 20:18 »
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If I sign up, I will create my own group of myself only, I don't seem to fit any of those.  ;D

That's good one. Let's make group for cat owners, dog owners, left handed, blue eyed, etc...
I don't fit in any of these either!   ;D

« Reply #40 on: January 23, 2011, 20:29 »
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Maybe iStock haters will be most popular  ;D

RacePhoto

« Reply #41 on: January 24, 2011, 22:16 »
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If I sign up, I will create my own group of myself only, I don't seem to fit any of those.  ;D

That's good one. Let's make group for cat owners, dog owners, left handed, blue eyed, etc...
I don't fit in any of these either!   ;D

That's OK we can make a group for people, who don't fit into any other group. :D

Not saying it's going to be the same, but when I started with Alamy there was a private group. You had to prove you had something, I can't remember, and then they looked and checked if you were "worthy" to participate in the private group. I waited and qualified and when I got in, I saw it was pretty much the same people writing the same things.

There's a forum on the web where you have to be invited by two current members. Then they charge an annual fee for membership. Some people say they have gotten photo work by belonging, others just join to say they are members. Funny part is the two people I know who are members, are pretty much weekend, fair weather, shooters and probably joined to be part of the club. Oh yes, the forum there isn't any better than the open forums on other photo sites.  ::) So much for elite private groups.

Best reason why it would make sense for the micro professionals is in dealing with agencies and that type of issue. People who work for a living, instead of a hobby shooter like me, have more valid concerns and maybe can pool their efforts to make something positive happen? Maybe a unified voice from people who matter to the agencies, would make sense to them.

Maybe I'll start the "Mad as Hell and I'm not going to take it anymore" group. Membership requires that you have been dropped or have quit at least six agencies because of the way they treat contributors, or have gone out of business, or because the sales were so pitiful that it wasn't worth keeping your work up for sale there anymore. :D

Oh yeah, almost forgot, one for StockXpert/ThinkStock and IS partner program contributors who would like to discuss the sites and sales without a bath in hot oil and human waste being thrown down from the castle walls above, by the elite, well placed MS photographers.  :o
« Last Edit: January 24, 2011, 22:19 by RacePhoto »

« Reply #42 on: January 25, 2011, 06:02 »
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Maybe I'll start the "Mad as Hell and I'm not going to take it anymore" group. Membership requires that you have been dropped or have quit at least six agencies because of the way they treat contributors, or have gone out of business, or because the sales were so pitiful that it wasn't worth keeping your work up for sale there anymore. :D

{..snip...}

So you want to create a group for IS exclusives?!? ;)

« Reply #43 on: January 25, 2011, 07:39 »
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{..snip..}
Maybe I'll start the "Mad as Hell and I'm not going to take it anymore" group. Membership requires that you have been dropped or have quit at least six agencies because of the way they treat contributors, or have gone out of business, or because the sales were so pitiful that it wasn't worth keeping your work up for sale there anymore. :D

{..snip...}

So you want to create a group for IS exclusives?!? ;)

So you are implying that exclusives at IS are mad as hell and not going to take it anymore. Does that mean that 90% of the exclusives at IS have gotten together and decided they are going independent? I doubt it.  ;)

« Reply #44 on: January 25, 2011, 08:26 »
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{..snip..}
Maybe I'll start the "Mad as Hell and I'm not going to take it anymore" group. Membership requires that you have been dropped or have quit at least six agencies because of the way they treat contributors, or have gone out of business, or because the sales were so pitiful that it wasn't worth keeping your work up for sale there anymore. :D

{..snip...}

So you want to create a group for IS exclusives?!? ;)

So you are implying that exclusives at IS are mad as hell and not going to take it anymore. Does that mean that 90% of the exclusives at IS have gotten together and decided they are going independent? I doubt it.  ;)

My emphasis was on having quit 6 or more agencies and that the ""Mad as Hell and I'm not going to take it anymore" came before that decision (if not it would certainly kick in by the time they came around to disabling images from DT)... :p

« Reply #45 on: January 25, 2011, 10:12 »
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{..snip..}
Maybe I'll start the "Mad as Hell and I'm not going to take it anymore" group. Membership requires that you have been dropped or have quit at least six agencies because of the way they treat contributors, or have gone out of business, or because the sales were so pitiful that it wasn't worth keeping your work up for sale there anymore. :D

{..snip...}

So you want to create a group for IS exclusives?!? ;)

So you are implying that exclusives at IS are mad as hell and not going to take it anymore. Does that mean that 90% of the exclusives at IS have gotten together and decided they are going independent? I doubt it.  ;)

My emphasis was on having quit 6 or more agencies and that the ""Mad as Hell and I'm not going to take it anymore" came before that decision (if not it would certainly kick in by the time they came around to disabling images from DT)... :p

Haha, I'm in!

WarrenPrice

« Reply #46 on: January 25, 2011, 11:01 »
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If I sign up, I will create my own group of myself only, I don't seem to fit any of those.  ;D

That's good one. Let's make group for cat owners, dog owners, left handed, blue eyed, etc...
I don't fit in any of these either!   ;D

I'm more convinced than ever that there are no groups for Hermits.   :P

« Reply #47 on: January 25, 2011, 12:19 »
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Join me in 'I'm a recluse'  If you can find me !?  lol  ;)

rubyroo

« Reply #48 on: January 25, 2011, 12:37 »
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 :D

« Reply #49 on: January 25, 2011, 18:53 »
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I'm more convinced than ever that there are no groups for Hermits.   :P
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Warren, I'm in! I would qualify for that group! ::)

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