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« on: October 08, 2016, 06:15 »
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I seem to be doing something fundamentally wrong on pond5. I've had some video sales but NEVER an image sale, never, not even once. My stuff sells well on SS, iStock, Fotolia and even 123rf. What am i doing wrong on Pond5?


https://www.pond5.com/artist/amlanmathur


Noedelhap

  • www.colincramm.com

« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2016, 06:30 »
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Image sales are rare. I'm a vector contributor and I have had a handful of vector sales, but nothing to write home about. Videos are doing much better.

I can't say what you're doing wrong. If you have sales on other agencies, it might just not be the type of pictures the Pond5 buyers are looking for.

« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2016, 07:51 »
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Either I am also doing something wrong (the same 0 sales) either it's just not a site for image sales. I am thinking not bother anymore with uploading - seems like a waste of time  :(
« Last Edit: October 08, 2016, 07:56 by zsooofija »

« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2016, 08:03 »
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My last sale was on 6 April... So.. I'm used to it.

« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2016, 08:04 »
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I have about 3200 images there and am lucky if I sell 5 in a month.

« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2016, 09:01 »
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What am i doing wrong on Pond5?

People don't go to Pond5 to buy images, they go there to buy footage and music. Images is just something they added there but those customers are used to Shutterstock and the others.

« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2016, 12:26 »
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Nice (and not so nice) to know that I'm not the only one .... BTW also asked the pond5 customer support the same thing ... will be interesting to hear what they have to say about it :P

« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2016, 04:08 »
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What am i doing wrong on Pond5?


People don't go to Pond5 to buy images, they go there to buy footage and music.
Images is just something they added there but those customers are used to Shutterstock and the others.

Don't bother uploading images! Look at their home page...ONLY VIDEO advertised!
"Find inspiration by searching the largest library of royalty-free HD and 4k stock video"

« Reply #8 on: October 09, 2016, 21:23 »
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Well they did reply, premade and very exhaustive but nothing for me specifically

Hi

We are sorry to hear this. First off, we would like to thank you for being a contributor with us. We would like to also provide you with some nuggets of knowledge, regarding helping raise your exposure and ultimately, your revenues on our site.

If you have more high-quality media, definitely continue uploading more of your work. Our customers know what's good, and the larger your high-quality collection, the more recognition you can have with our community. Buyers are always hungry for amazing content!

For your clips to be easily found, accurate rich info in titles, descriptions and keywords are helpful. How you title and keyword your work isvery important. If you spam your keywords or titles, it will only hurt your visibility. So doing this in more detail, butACCURATELY has a significant 60% SEO weight on the search results.

We also, always recommend that you promote your work, to up your exposure. You can create a Collection bin showcasing your footage, and then simply copy the link, to add that to your website or social outlet. Here is a link to our Knowledge Base article explaining this: What are Collections?

Another option, is just to simply post links of your clips and distribute all over the internet. You can even add some of your clips to our "free clip promotion", for this will also help get your name out there.

Next, you are welcome to explore through our Artist Resources page. Here you will find tons of very valuable metric information, such as what kinds of files comprise what percentage of the sites sales, the most commonly searched key words, and so much more information that we think are useful for our artists.

Lastly, if you use your Referral Links, you can even make 5% on all purchases or sales made for the first year of people who sign up using the links you give them. That's another way of thanking you, for sharing Pond5 with your friends!

We hope this helps. Please let us know if you have anymore questions.


« Reply #9 on: October 09, 2016, 21:31 »
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What am i doing wrong on Pond5?


People don't go to Pond5 to buy images, they go there to buy footage and music.
Images is just something they added there but those customers are used to Shutterstock and the others.


Don't bother uploading images! Look at their home page...ONLY VIDEO advertised!
"Find inspiration by searching the largest library of royalty-free HD and 4k stock video"

Yup, even their sales stats seem to tell the same story


« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2016, 03:02 »
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And ordered by revenue:

1. HD
2. 4k
3. 720
4. Music
5. Photos

That being said, every week there are a number images being sold for $500+, but that's like winning the lottery I suppose.
« Last Edit: October 10, 2016, 03:05 by increasingdifficulty »

ShadySue

« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2016, 03:03 »
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The message that it's almost exclusively clips they're interested in is clear from their reply.

« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2016, 05:35 »
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Yup, that being said I'm yet to meet many people breaking the $100 barrier every month on pond5. Guess it needs videos in the upwards of 100 to get that

« Reply #13 on: October 10, 2016, 06:48 »
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There are many, many, many authors meeting $100 every month on Pond5, believe me. $5,000+ is not that uncommon. Yes, you most likely need 500+ video clips or quality music for that though.

They sell footage for millions each month but of course, there are quite a few clips so if you're new with a small portfolio it's hard to be seen.

Sales create more sales and new stuff isn't too visible in the search engine. But after a few years when you have high ranking stuff the sales can really roll in. It takes time.
« Last Edit: October 10, 2016, 06:52 by increasingdifficulty »

« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2016, 06:57 »
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Well they did reply, premade and very exhaustive but nothing for me specifically

Hi

We are sorry to hear this. First off, we would like to thank you for being a contributor with us. We would like to also provide you with some nuggets of knowledge, regarding helping raise your exposure and ultimately, your revenues on our site.

If you have more high-quality media, definitely continue uploading more of your work. Our customers know what's good, and the larger your high-quality collection, the more recognition you can have with our community. Buyers are always hungry for amazing content!

For your clips to be easily found, accurate rich info in titles, descriptions and keywords are helpful. How you title and keyword your work isvery important. If you spam your keywords or titles, it will only hurt your visibility. So doing this in more detail, butACCURATELY has a significant 60% SEO weight on the search results.

We also, always recommend that you promote your work, to up your exposure. You can create a Collection bin showcasing your footage, and then simply copy the link, to add that to your website or social outlet. Here is a link to our Knowledge Base article explaining this: What are Collections?

Another option, is just to simply post links of your clips and distribute all over the internet. You can even add some of your clips to our "free clip promotion", for this will also help get your name out there.

Next, you are welcome to explore through our Artist Resources page. Here you will find tons of very valuable metric information, such as what kinds of files comprise what percentage of the sites sales, the most commonly searched key words, and so much more information that we think are useful for our artists.

Lastly, if you use your Referral Links, you can even make 5% on all purchases or sales made for the first year of people who sign up using the links you give them. That's another way of thanking you, for sharing Pond5 with your friends!

We hope this helps. Please let us know if you have anymore questions.

HA HA...if ONLY they read your email about IMAGES not selling and not clips... but hey you ve got a standard template reply, and if after THIS you still upload images on, then there is more definitely something wrong with you.  ;-)
Best of luck!
« Last Edit: October 10, 2016, 06:59 by KnowYourOnions »

« Reply #15 on: October 10, 2016, 11:17 »
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There are many, many, many authors meeting $100 every month on Pond5, believe me. $5,000+ is not that uncommon. Yes, you most likely need 500+ video clips or quality music for that though.

They sell footage for millions each month but of course, there are quite a few clips so if you're new with a small portfolio it's hard to be seen.

Sales create more sales and new stuff isn't too visible in the search engine. But after a few years when you have high ranking stuff the sales can really roll in. It takes time.
Thats the whole point. It'll take me much more than my 15+ clips to get any real sales

Noedelhap

  • www.colincramm.com

« Reply #16 on: October 10, 2016, 12:16 »
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What am i doing wrong on Pond5?


People don't go to Pond5 to buy images, they go there to buy footage and music.
Images is just something they added there but those customers are used to Shutterstock and the others.


Don't bother uploading images! Look at their home page...ONLY VIDEO advertised!
"Find inspiration by searching the largest library of royalty-free HD and 4k stock video"

Yup, even their sales stats seem to tell the same story




What is the difference between 'footage (0.07%)' and the other video (1080p/720p/4K) categories?

« Reply #17 on: October 10, 2016, 12:46 »
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Thats the whole point. It'll take me much more than my 15+ clips to get any real sales

Of course. 15 is nothing. 500 is minimum to see any action at all even if you have good clips. Just get to work.  :)

« Reply #18 on: October 10, 2016, 14:35 »
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My best sales are on Pond5, but I sell stock footage and stock music, so I really don't think people go to Pond5 that often for images compared to 123rf, dreamstime, fotolia, etc.

« Reply #19 on: October 11, 2016, 00:12 »
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Thats the whole point. It'll take me much more than my 15+ clips to get any real sales

Of course. 15 is nothing. 500 is minimum to see any action at all even if you have good clips. Just get to work.  :)
I realize that, its just amazingly hard to edit and upload video. The workflow for images is much more sorted.

Need a lightroom type deal for video

« Reply #20 on: October 11, 2016, 06:44 »
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I realize that, its just amazingly hard to edit and upload video. The workflow for images is much more sorted.

Need a lightroom type deal for video

That's why you can still charge hundreds of dollars per clip and there are still a few good years in the footage business left. It's good that it's hard.

Just use After Effects or Final Cut. The workflow is not more sorted for images, it's just that video takes more time and involves more data.

You can quite easily do 20 clips in two days (film, edit, upload to multiple sites). Ten days full-time work: 100 clips. It's not THAT hard...

For one person getting 500 clips up in two months from scratch is not an impossible task at all. But of course, you have to treat it like any other job and spend the hours.
« Last Edit: October 11, 2016, 08:45 by increasingdifficulty »

« Reply #21 on: October 11, 2016, 09:11 »
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14 photo sales in October so far on Pond5 with just over 1000 in my port.

« Reply #22 on: October 11, 2016, 11:19 »
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I realize that, its just amazingly hard to edit and upload video. The workflow for images is much more sorted.

Need a lightroom type deal for video

That's why you can still charge hundreds of dollars per clip and there are still a few good years in the footage business left. It's good that it's hard.

Just use After Effects or Final Cut. The workflow is not more sorted for images, it's just that video takes more time and involves more data.

You can quite easily do 20 clips in two days (film, edit, upload to multiple sites). Ten days full-time work: 100 clips. It's not THAT hard...

For one person getting 500 clips up in two months from scratch is not an impossible task at all. But of course, you have to treat it like any other job and spend the hours.
Absolutely, need to find and put in the hours

« Reply #23 on: October 13, 2016, 12:05 »
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 a) you have quite a few files actually, in comparison with all agency's database
 b) your images are not commercial.

 these two reasons are in my opinion main reasons for low traffic of your images.

« Reply #24 on: October 13, 2016, 21:48 »
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a) you have quite a few files actually, in comparison with all agency's database
 b) your images are not commercial.

 these two reasons are in my opinion main reasons for low traffic of your images.
Thanks, have been playing around with images for a few years now. Video is relatively new. Will keep at it

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