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« Reply #100 on: September 27, 2011, 18:47 »
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I just got a confirmation email to my opt-out.. here it is:


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Dear Contributor,
 
We'd like to confirm receipt of your email indicating your wish to opt out of the Veer subscription program that will be offered later this year.

Since announcing the subscription plan and related royalties last week, we've received a lot of thoughtful feedback and suggestions for ways to make the plan more attractive to contributors. We want to let you know we've been listening, and as a result of that feedback, we plan to release an adjusted plan within the next few days.

We will be offering an opportunity to opt back in to the revised plan, and invite you to respond to this email with any further suggestions you have that will help us provide you with a more desirable subscription plan.
 
Sincerely,

 The Veer Contributor Team


« Reply #101 on: September 27, 2011, 19:25 »
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I just got the same email and have nothing more to add than what's already been said here so I'm not sure how to respond to it.

« Reply #102 on: September 27, 2011, 20:18 »
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We need to stop the race to the bottom mentality and keep payouts to contributors at a decent  and fair level without all the gimics and twisted payout math that always favors the stock sites and never the contributor. Set a concrete minimum and a fair EL price that's in line with the industry norm then you might have a workable plan that your contributors and buyers will like.

« Reply #103 on: September 27, 2011, 20:28 »
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I got my confirmation back for the opt out. I also decided to take the opportunity to give Veer some free advice. They are welcome to do whatever they want with it, but here it is:

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I appreciate the concern for contributors' opinions and that there was an opt out. I've never been a big fan of subscription plans, so I'm not too interested in opting into another one. I'd be more interested in eliminating the ones I already have. ;)

I think Veer could work a lot harder to separate itself from the other agencies by being more contributor friendly. I was excited when Veer first opened the doors, but a lot of that excitement has died down after multiple policy changes. I was unhappy when raster versions were offered for vectors. I was unhappy when larger higher resolution raster files were required for upload. Now, I'm disappointed to see a subs program implemented. I'm not leaving, but I don't see much of a future with Veer.

My perfect agency would be one that offered around 50% royalties, no subscription plans, and allows me set my own prices. I submit to a few agencies that do this, and these are the ones that get my new work.

I hope that helps.

« Reply #104 on: September 27, 2011, 21:02 »
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Veer appreciates your feedback and we are listening.  We are working through some new scenarios for our subscription model and will announce an adjustment within the next day or so.  Stay tuned.  And meantime, keep the ideas flowing.

Aaron

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Regardless of how your revised model turns out, I really appreciate Veer's willingness to hear our feedback.  I agree with what others have said about the importance of a price floor closer to the industry average and better EL compensation.   

« Reply #105 on: September 27, 2011, 22:06 »
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The .10 and the pitiful EL are total deal breakers.  

Agreed - I just opted out.

rubyroo

« Reply #106 on: September 28, 2011, 02:42 »
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I'd like to add my appreciation to Veer for showing that they're stlll listening to contributors.  That is much appreciated (and a great relief).  Thank you.

I'm just hoping that the outcome is something I can happily opt in to, because I DO want to support Veer.  I just need Veer to make it possible for me to continue to do that. 

« Reply #107 on: September 28, 2011, 03:25 »
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Perhaps the most fair way to pay contributors for subs would be to match the pay per download percentage?  Add up all the money buyers have paid at the end of the month and distribute a fixed percentage to contributors.  We really don't know what percentage the other sites pay us but the impression is that it's often less than we get for pay per download.
« Last Edit: September 28, 2011, 03:31 by sharpshot »

« Reply #108 on: September 28, 2011, 04:04 »
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It's really important that Veer change this, because new contributors are going to find themselves automatically enrolled. In time, it will acquire a substantial collection regardless of initial opt-outs and unless stuff like the EL pricing is changed it will give added impetus to the famed "race to the bottom". I don't believe that is in Veer's interests any more than it is in ours.

« Reply #109 on: September 28, 2011, 05:25 »
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Opted out, but willing to listen if Veer comes back to us with a more fair offer

« Reply #110 on: September 28, 2011, 05:33 »
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Perhaps the most fair way to pay contributors for subs would be to match the pay per download percentage?  Add up all the money buyers have paid at the end of the month and distribute a fixed percentage to contributors.  We really don't know what percentage the other sites pay us but the impression is that it's often less than we get for pay per download.

That's an interesting idea!

« Reply #111 on: September 28, 2011, 12:37 »
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"Fotolias royalty-free license allows you to use images in your projects without limitations on time, the number of copies printed, or geographical location of use."
http://us.fotolia.com/Info/SizesAndUses

At Fotolia all pictures are sold with the Extended License of Unlimited Production for the price of a royalty-free license, also for 0,25$ subscription (white ranking).
There exist only an Extended License for Products for Resale.

Is this new or not ?



No it's not.  Which is one of the many reasons a lot of us deleted our portfolios at Fotolia.

« Reply #112 on: October 03, 2011, 04:39 »
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Just thought I'd add it to this thread, Veer updated their pricing / payout schedule for royalties.  I'll lock this thread now, further discussion can be done in the new thread.

http://www.microstockgroup.com/veer-marketplace/veer-subscription-royalties-update/


 

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