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Ron

« Reply #25 on: July 29, 2013, 10:21 »
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The prices of the images in the image library start at $1 for unlimited use
What are you even quoting here.
And then why give a negative for asking, I don't see it anywhere in the thread and there is no link.  Didn't you get in trouble for negativing everything before?
I voted you down for asking a stupid question, its in the links Sean provided, links you have opened and read yourself. Thats why I gave you a negative. Now go run to Tyler and report me for voting you down. And I have the idea you ratted on me before, since this is the second time you brought that up.
Oh of course I'm a mind reader, let me go through the every post and all four links in this thread to search for your quote.  I don't think I have to say this but it's not very useful just to throw up a quote with no reference to who said it or where it came from but thanks for showing how childish you can act again.  Glad to see v3 isn't any different than the first two.

Its on the same page you read a couple of minutes before I posted my quote.

This looks ok from what Sean posted.  We get paid for the 5 free images at $1/credit correct?  It doesn't seem at all like the google deal.


ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #26 on: July 29, 2013, 10:22 »
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The prices of the images in the image library start at $1 for unlimited use


What are you even quoting here.

 I don't see it anywhere in the thread and there is no link. 

It is in the link Sean gave http://www.1and1.com/details-istockphoto which is by means of being an advert for iStockphoto.
"What is iStockphoto?
The iStockphoto library offers you more than 5 million images for easy and hassle-free integration into your website. The prices of the images in the image library start at $1 for unlimited use. Images are organized by category, and also discoverable via an image search."

So - what sort of stretching of the truth is that? - iStock normal licenses do not allow unlimited use. As I have worked out that my personal lowest credit value for a non-sub sale was 42c, I don't think that could buy even the lowest value EL, far less an all-encompassing EL allowing 'unlimited' use.

« Reply #27 on: July 29, 2013, 10:26 »
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Ron

« Reply #28 on: July 29, 2013, 10:27 »
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Typical, always defending IS, it is never their fault, is it?

« Reply #29 on: July 29, 2013, 10:32 »
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« Last Edit: May 12, 2014, 11:45 by Audi 5000 »

« Reply #30 on: July 29, 2013, 10:54 »
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This looks ok from what Sean posted.  We get paid for the 5 free images at $1/credit correct?  It doesn't seem at all like the google deal.


This is only when the customers wants to access more images then the 25 000 available for free.

For the 25k the artists should probably get an extended license fee for electronic template or something. But how high should a license be that offers free distribution to millions of customers?

Is it another 6 Dollar deal?


Right.  I was just pointing out that they probably think it is a great idea to get people to get interested in join up. 

Like this one, that actually got ELs for people: http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=187561

« Reply #31 on: July 29, 2013, 10:56 »
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Typical, always defending IS, it is never their fault, is it?
I can't tell what's going on in the OP, it's in German and doesn't clearly link to the images or TOS or anything I can make out.  Sean's links are different and don't look so bad, they are different than the google deal.

You can see everything in the pictures I attached. Its pretty simple: You search for a photo for example "baby" and you get a selection of Istock photos for free use on your personal or commerical website.

« Reply #32 on: July 29, 2013, 10:59 »
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« Reply #33 on: July 29, 2013, 11:21 »
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Typical, always defending IS, it is never their fault, is it?
I can't tell what's going on in the OP, it's in German and doesn't clearly link to the images or TOS or anything I can make out.  Sean's links are different and don't look so bad, they are different than the google deal.

You can see everything in the pictures I attached. Its pretty simple: You search for a photo for example "baby" and you get a selection of Istock photos for free use on your personal or commerical website.
Without having access to it, I can't tell if those files are Istock or Getty.  Do they come from certain contributors or from all files?  Is there a TOS page?

Just read my post, or is the web access down at your place? (addition I also found one of my pictures, and Im exclusive)
Problem with this deal: The TOS Page is hard to find or non existing ...

« Reply #34 on: July 29, 2013, 11:26 »
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some more examples, I just saved a few pages before i canceled my account there since I dont want to pay the monthly 1&1 fee.
This is the pages that states (Google Translate)

"Over 25,000 professional photos are available for your website at no extra charge. About royalties you do not have to worry. Find the right guaranteed quick photo of the convenient keyword search. Is not your particular favorite motif here, you have access to cost about 5 Million more quality Agency."

http://homepage.1und1.de/preise-und-funktionen?linkOrigin=&linkId=ct.txt.allinclusive-link#choose
klick on the 4th row "Bildarchiv"

« Reply #35 on: July 29, 2013, 11:29 »
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« Reply #36 on: July 29, 2013, 11:39 »
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Typical, always defending IS, it is never their fault, is it?

I can't tell what's going on in the OP, it's in German and doesn't clearly link to the images or TOS or anything I can make out.  Sean's links are different and don't look so bad, they are different than the google deal.


You can see everything in the pictures I attached. Its pretty simple: You search for a photo for example "baby" and you get a selection of Istock photos for free use on your personal or commerical website.

Without having access to it, I can't tell if those files are Istock or Getty.  Do they come from certain contributors or from all files?  Is there a TOS page?


Just read my post, or is the web access down at your place? (addition I also found one of my pictures, and Im exclusive)
Problem with this deal: The TOS Page is hard to find or non existing ...

The internet works just fine, the link you provided doesn't offer much information though and what you said is "Many pictures are from Istock exclusives like Yuri / Globalstock also a lot of contibutor that are not so deeply affiliated with Getty."   Globalstock and Yuri are not normal Istock contributors by any means, I don't know what "a lot of contributor(s) that are not so deeply affiliated with Getty."  I guess you mean contributors that not at all affiliated with Getty, now?  Also is the deal only good for paying customers from Germany?  That would be a big difference from the Google deal in itself without even knowing what the terms are.


What is your affilation with istock? You are playing this whole thing down. This is serious stuff. Germany is one of the biggest markets for pictures.

Also can anybody check this out:
http://website.1and1.com/pricing?linkOrigin=&linkId=ct.txt.allinclusive-link#choose


Its the american site, seems this is not "only a german thing" since they provide the exact same services:
"Over 25,000 professional images are available for your website at no extra charge. The keyword search makes it easy for you to quickly find the image you are looking for. If you can't find what you are looking for, you will also have access to more than 5 million agency quality images (at an extra cost)."

4th row, theres the info about the image library.

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #37 on: July 29, 2013, 11:41 »
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Also is the deal only good for paying customers from Germany?  That would be a big difference from the Google deal in itself without even knowing what the terms are.
Why not check with iS what the terms are and let us know?
As they are offering 25000 pics for free, but promoting the paid collection, that looks as though the 25000 would be within the 'no compensation' clause 3b in the EASA I quoted above.
We need to be told, otherwise a provider of one of the 25000 might find an in use that they thought hadn't been licensed and try to deal with it.

As for ToS, very few people read/adhere to them (going by the number of editorial images I've found in commercial use), and IME iS is usually fairly reluctant to do any more than send an initial email.

« Reply #38 on: July 29, 2013, 11:44 »
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« Reply #39 on: July 29, 2013, 11:47 »
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« Last Edit: May 12, 2014, 11:44 by Audi 5000 »

« Reply #40 on: July 29, 2013, 11:53 »
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Glad i pulled my port

« Reply #41 on: July 29, 2013, 11:58 »
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Typical, always defending IS, it is never their fault, is it?

I can't tell what's going on in the OP, it's in German and doesn't clearly link to the images or TOS or anything I can make out.  Sean's links are different and don't look so bad, they are different than the google deal.


You can see everything in the pictures I attached. Its pretty simple: You search for a photo for example "baby" and you get a selection of Istock photos for free use on your personal or commerical website.

Without having access to it, I can't tell if those files are Istock or Getty.  Do they come from certain contributors or from all files?  Is there a TOS page?


Just read my post, or is the web access down at your place? (addition I also found one of my pictures, and Im exclusive)
Problem with this deal: The TOS Page is hard to find or non existing ...

The internet works just fine, the link you provided doesn't offer much information though and what you said is "Many pictures are from Istock exclusives like Yuri / Globalstock also a lot of contibutor that are not so deeply affiliated with Getty."   Globalstock and Yuri are not normal Istock contributors by any means, I don't know what "a lot of contributor(s) that are not so deeply affiliated with Getty."  I guess you mean contributors that not at all affiliated with Getty, now?  Also is the deal only good for paying customers from Germany?  That would be a big difference from the Google deal in itself without even knowing what the terms are.


What is your affilation with istock? You are playing this whole thing down. This is serious stuff. Germany is one of the biggest markets for pictures.

Also can anybody check this out:
http://website.1and1.com/pricing?linkOrigin=&linkId=ct.txt.allinclusive-link#choose


Its the american site, seems this is not "only a german thing" since they provide the exact same services:
"Over 25,000 professional images are available for your website at no extra charge. The keyword search makes it easy for you to quickly find the image you are looking for. If you can't find what you are looking for, you will also have access to more than 5 million agency quality images (at an extra cost)."

4th row, theres the info about the image library.

I'm an exclusive too.  I'm not playing it down, I don't even have nearly enough information to know what's going on.  From the pictures you posted I can't tell whose images were used.  From the link you posted I can't tell which agency is even involved, you say Getty/Istock, but there is a difference.  Did we (assuming this could even be relevant to me, I'm not sure yet) get paid for this, either through Getty or Istock?  What are the Terms of use?  I have way more questions about this deal, until I understand it I'm not going to get upset.


Fine, so if you wanna know all the details, just go and check it out yourself:

http://www.1und1.de
http://www.1and1.com
http://www.1and1.co.uk/

Choose depending on your location. I guess theres a free trial. Enjoy.

I know and saw that they give away my and the pictures of many other photographers (some exclusive) away  for free, enough for me to get upset.

« Reply #42 on: July 29, 2013, 12:04 »
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« Reply #43 on: July 29, 2013, 12:22 »
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Typical, always defending IS, it is never their fault, is it?
I can't tell what's going on in the OP, it's in German and doesn't clearly link to the images or TOS or anything I can make out.  Sean's links are different and don't look so bad, they are different than the google deal.

You can see everything in the pictures I attached. Its pretty simple: You search for a photo for example "baby" and you get a selection of Istock photos for free use on your personal or commerical website.
Without having access to it, I can't tell if those files are Istock or Getty.  Do they come from certain contributors or from all files?  Is there a TOS page?

Just read my post, or is the web access down at your place? (addition I also found one of my pictures, and Im exclusive)
Problem with this deal: The TOS Page is hard to find or non existing ...

Are you some kind of an exiled village idiot of Istock? 8) ... or maybe you just find pleasure in humiliating yourself.

« Reply #44 on: July 29, 2013, 12:23 »
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Looks like too much for me to do, maybe someone else will try it out and get some info.   I wouldn't be surprised if Sean was already on it.

ETA:  I'm not sure what to make of 3 negatives for this.  I'm not going to take the time to create and account and then cancel it with some company I've never heard of.

Its for your critical thinking and brave behaviour.

« Reply #45 on: July 29, 2013, 12:25 »
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« Reply #46 on: July 29, 2013, 12:27 »
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« Last Edit: May 12, 2014, 11:43 by Audi 5000 »

« Reply #47 on: July 29, 2013, 12:36 »
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Looks like too much for me to do, maybe someone else will try it out and get some info.   I wouldn't be surprised if Sean was already on it.

ETA:  I'm not sure what to make of 3 negatives for this.  I'm not going to take the time to create and account and then cancel it with some company I've never heard of.

Its for your critical thinking and brave behaviour.
I'll let someone else give their information to that company.  I don't think I'll be sending out my credit card info to get to the bottom of this.

quelle surprise. something tells me, you dont want to get to the bottom.

« Reply #48 on: July 29, 2013, 12:38 »
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Typical, always defending IS, it is never their fault, is it?
I can't tell what's going on in the OP, it's in German and doesn't clearly link to the images or TOS or anything I can make out.  Sean's links are different and don't look so bad, they are different than the google deal.

You can see everything in the pictures I attached. Its pretty simple: You search for a photo for example "baby" and you get a selection of Istock photos for free use on your personal or commerical website.
Without having access to it, I can't tell if those files are Istock or Getty.  Do they come from certain contributors or from all files?  Is there a TOS page?

Just read my post, or is the web access down at your place? (addition I also found one of my pictures, and Im exclusive)
Problem with this deal: The TOS Page is hard to find or non existing ...

Are you some kind of an exiled village idiot of Istock? 8) ... or maybe you just find pleasure in humiliating yourself.
I guess you are talking to me, even though you are replying to someone else.  I'm not sure I've insulted anyone here, sorry for asking questions I guess it's better to just assume what we want to hear rather than get the truth.  I'd say that attitude is more befitting of the village idiot but what do I know?

well, you did recognize yourself despite the 'wrong' quoting didn't, you? 8) Thanks dude, this worked like a charm.

« Reply #49 on: July 29, 2013, 12:39 »
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