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Agency Based Discussion => iStockPhoto.com => Topic started by: dirkr on September 30, 2014, 04:36

Title: Another case of faux-exclusivity?
Post by: dirkr on September 30, 2014, 04:36
Or another case of big scale theft?

Exclusive Istock contributor:

http://www.istockphoto.com/portfolio/westend_61#e0551bb (http://www.istockphoto.com/portfolio/westend_61#e0551bb)

Portfolio on 123RF:

http://www.123rf.com/profile_tunedin123/new/ (http://www.123rf.com/profile_tunedin123/new/)

Interesting name of the Istock contributor, no idea if this is really related to the German agency Westend 61 or if somebody just chose that name.

I came across that example on a German stock forum, thought it might be worth a post here.
Title: Re: Another case of faux-exclusivity?
Post by: gostwyck on September 30, 2014, 05:04
It appears that they only joined IS in August and have only 5 sales since. I thought you needed 250+ sales to become exclusive?

Looks like it may be another 'special' deal that Istock has done. As we've been told many times ... "Professionals deal with professionals".
Title: Re: Another case of faux-exclusivity?
Post by: Sean Locke Photography on September 30, 2014, 05:36
WestEnd is definitely a macro agency.  Maybe they have a low end micro portfolio: http://www.michaeljayfoto.com/distribution-channels/signing-a-macro-content/ (http://www.michaeljayfoto.com/distribution-channels/signing-a-macro-content/)
Title: Re: Another case of faux-exclusivity?
Post by: moniet on September 30, 2014, 15:38
...and very quick they have changed the name  ::)

http://www.istockphoto.com/profile/tuned_in (http://www.istockphoto.com/profile/tuned_in)
Title: Re: Another case of faux-exclusivity?
Post by: gostwyck on September 30, 2014, 17:01
...and very quick they have changed the name  ::)

[url]http://www.istockphoto.com/profile/tuned_in[/url] ([url]http://www.istockphoto.com/profile/tuned_in[/url])


Well spotted! Of course that can only be done with Istock's assistance ....
Title: Re: Another case of faux-exclusivity?
Post by: Karen on October 26, 2014, 14:41
iStock has no shame and no respect for his clients and contributors.

iStock is lying by selling these photos as "Only from iStock"
http://www.istockphoto.com/photo/young-blonde-woman-against-white-background-confident-49645520 (http://www.istockphoto.com/photo/young-blonde-woman-against-white-background-confident-49645520)
And making them available everywhere else
http://www.123rf.com/photo_32385238_young-blonde-woman-against-white-background-confident.html (http://www.123rf.com/photo_32385238_young-blonde-woman-against-white-background-confident.html)

Making these special deals behind the scene is like spitting in clients and contributors faces.  >:(
Title: Re: Another case of faux-exclusivity?
Post by: Sean Locke Photography on October 26, 2014, 14:58
Why did they change their IS name?  So they wouldn't be caught at something?
Title: Re: Another case of faux-exclusivity?
Post by: loop on October 26, 2014, 16:59
But they have some photos uploaded in 2010.
Title: Re: Another case of faux-exclusivity?
Post by: Jo Ann Snover on October 26, 2014, 18:44
But they have some photos uploaded in 2010.

The profile page says a member since August 2014, so I'm guessing that date was changed to be the date it was shot - didn't they talk about doing that for Getty images ingested a few years back to avoid messing with best match?
Title: Re: Another case of faux-exclusivity?
Post by: r2d2 on October 27, 2014, 07:05
http://macrostock.blogspot.de/2014/09/community.html (http://macrostock.blogspot.de/2014/09/community.html)

In this german article Westend explains why they offer now on microstockagencys.
Supposedly predominantly there are only old pictures that would be otherwise deleted.
Title: Re: Another case of faux-exclusivity?
Post by: cuppacoffee on October 27, 2014, 08:49
Isn't it nice that he/she/they consider microstock a dumping ground for "old pictures that would be otherwise deleted"?
Title: Re: Another case of faux-exclusivity?
Post by: r2d2 on October 27, 2014, 09:33
Isn't it nice that he/she/they consider microstock a dumping ground for "old pictures that would be otherwise deleted"?

That does not surprise me especially the managing director of Westend has months before in a german forum microstock contributors offended because they deliver to microstock agencies.
Title: Re: Another case of faux-exclusivity?
Post by: JPSDK on October 27, 2014, 12:24
iStock has no shame and no respect for his clients and contributors.

iStock is lying by selling these photos as "Only from iStock"
[url]http://www.istockphoto.com/photo/young-blonde-woman-against-white-background-confident-49645520[/url] ([url]http://www.istockphoto.com/photo/young-blonde-woman-against-white-background-confident-49645520[/url])
And making them available everywhere else
[url]http://www.123rf.com/photo_32385238_young-blonde-woman-against-white-background-confident.html[/url] ([url]http://www.123rf.com/photo_32385238_young-blonde-woman-against-white-background-confident.html[/url])

Making these special deals behind the scene is like spitting in clients and contributors faces.  >:(


I like this post
Istock has always been spitting us in the face. It just gets worse and worse. Its like every dirty trick that can be done, will be done and there are no limits and no decency at all. Half of the things they do are illegal, and they would fall tomorrow if the rule of law was applied to them. Which it should be.
Title: Re: Another case of faux-exclusivity?
Post by: akaWinning on October 27, 2014, 22:40
Well that article would explain it then, because I see nothing in the IS portfolio that I would consider any thing more than just "average" or "barely adequate", when taking the whole of the photographs into consideration....
Title: Re: Another case of faux-exclusivity?
Post by: MichaelJayFoto on October 28, 2014, 01:31
Well that article would explain it then, because I see nothing in the IS portfolio that I would consider any thing more than just "average" or "barely adequate", when taking the whole of the photographs into consideration....

Well, that's the beauty of microstock, isn't it? Anyone can play along, and in the end it's up to the customer to decide which of the images they are going to license for their project.
Title: Re: Another case of faux-exclusivity?
Post by: Jo Ann Snover on October 28, 2014, 09:26
I wouldn't see microstock as a dumping ground, but a lower priced outlet. You start selling things at the highest price you think you can get and when you've exhausted that, you offer them at a discounted price, often elsewhere.

That seems pretty reasonable in principle. If the images are not outdated (because of cell phones the size of a brick, or other obsolete props/fashions) people may buy an image for $10 that they wouldn't have for $100 or more. iStock's expensive collection may not be the best place for these images though as they're pretty run-of-the-mill.
Title: Re: Another case of faux-exclusivity?
Post by: Uncle Pete on October 28, 2014, 11:27
That's why I like Alamy. Good quality image and it's in. Let the buyers decide. If some microstock agency had the same concept, we'd see millions of LCV images, and I'm not sure that's really a bad thing? Let the buyers decide...

Well, that's the beauty of microstock, isn't it? Anyone can play along, and in the end it's up to the customer to decide which of the images they are going to license for their project.