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« on: January 25, 2013, 18:36 »
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These days people get banned from iStock.
is that funny, meaningless or rude?

Well, I think it is significant.

So let us make a list of us who are banned.
It can always be usefull, when we try to understand what is going on.

Im one.
I was banned because I asked istocklawyer questions of the kind that would hold water in court. Like: I have asked this question and you have replied, that means that you have seen the question and it is such not unknown to you and istock.

Now who else is in the club and for what?




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« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2013, 18:53 »
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Add me. Being banned 30 seconds after i post reply to Lobo
 
Lobo  : Im not going to allow this to turn into a "THESE ARE ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE MAKING CONTRIBUTORS ANGRY" thread. We have that list. Don't derail this discussion nor cause my hammer finger to start flying all over the place.)

My response " And buy the way all the things are just fine here"
It is all together funny, meaningless and rude.
Best,

 
« Last Edit: February 08, 2013, 21:21 by alexmk »

« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2013, 19:03 »
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And me:

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Posted By Lobo:
I to find it ironic that we have managed to take that site down as quickly as we did and people are still finding reasons to be upset.....

Not as ironic as we find it, it just goes to further highlight how completely out of touch with it's contributors istock/getty are. Nobody was upset at the site - in fact it's very clear from this thread that we were all using it to check whether our images were included. We are only upset that istock/getty have allowed the display & download of contributors images at high resolution to be possible (and legal) by selling images to google to redistribute for free on some sort of perpetual license that no-one but google/getty are privy too.

I think most contributors have had enough now and unless there are some concrete things done to re-compensate the contributors involved and give us the ability to opt out of 3rd party deals such as this then we're going to be leaving in droves.

Followed up by an email:
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The administration team at iStockphoto has revoked your forum privileges.  Comments from iStockphoto Administrators (if any):

Take care. I'm pretty sure this will be best considering you're on your way out. I know how taxing it can be to have to respond to everything especially when you have already seemingly made up your mind to leave..

Regards,
Lobo

« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2013, 19:21 »
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I've been banned since being told to take a little break in September 2011 - see the details here in an earlier MSG post

I still have an open support ticket from May 4, 2012 asking if my ban is permanent and if not, may I have my forum privs back. Other than a note in September 2012 from oldladybird saying "I am going to forward this onto the correct department as it was assigned incorrectly and was buried in the ticketing system." I've heard nothing.

It wouldn't seem too hard to just reply that the ban is lifetime, but they won't or can't do that. So for the most part the ban's a help in that it has weaned me from spending time in the forums.

LSD72

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« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2013, 21:59 »
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Lobo  : nor cause my hammer finger to start flying all over the place.)


What a guy Lobo is. Talks a great game behind a screen. I gave him my finger a long while back. I am sure there are plenty of fingers saluting him to this day.

« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2013, 03:16 »
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These days people get banned from iStock.
is that funny, meaningless or rude?

Well, I think it is significant.

So let us make a list of us who are banned.
It can always be usefull, when we try to understand what is going on.

Im one.
I was banned because I asked istocklawyer questions of the kind that would hold water in court. Like: I have asked this question and you have replied, that means that you have seen the question and it is such not unknown to you and istock.

Now who else is in the club and for what?

yeah they dont like Danes. Youre too close to Greenland you see.

« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2013, 22:53 »
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Just got banned as well

cbarnes said:

``...From my perspective, however, this issue should have gone immediately to a lawyer. Instead it was openly published here and a call to action has now been taking place for something to occur in February...``

My response:

You must be kidding right...your perspective is similar to what a Getty lawyer would probably say.. How can keeping a secret about images being redistributed for free, by such a powerhouse as Google, would make it right for their owners?

Lobo

Thanks, Cybernesco. I get to now show what is going to happen if people don't read what I post. Enjoy your ban.

http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=350913&messageid=6830693

CD123

« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2013, 00:39 »
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Clearly this Lobo character is the Public (Contributor) Relations Officer for iStock, especially considering how they are dealing with the whole Google debacle. Should get some sort of award for it. I am sure you guys can come up with a few  ;)

« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2013, 02:55 »
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Clearly they dont like the talk of lawyers and delete and ban people who say that sort of things.
Maybe because they will later claim that they didnt know.

Welcome in the club folks!

Microbius

« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2013, 03:48 »
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I take back anything I have ever said sympathetic towards forum moderators on IStock.

It seems there is a definite strategy going on there.

Keep it all to one easily managed thread, let everyone post whatever they like in it for while so they can let off steam then swoop in and clean up the thread to an IStock's sanitized version and ban everyone who has exposed themselves as being anti the party line.

Most of the people banned seem to have done nothing wrong other than not towing that party line.

I can definitely understand it from IStock's perspective of course. It's only a problem when people are reading the IStock forum thinking it is anything but a publicity tool for IStock.

What we have to do is make sure everyone moves the discussion off of the IStock forum and over to independent forums like this one. If people keep discussing it over there IStock will continue to be able to give whatever impression they like about what is going on to the large number people who get all their info from just those boards.

« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2013, 23:54 »
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I just got booted as well.

Posted By dcdp:
 - asked a few questions about the situation with Google Drive that weren't addressed in an announcement
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Posted By Lobo:
Sorry, like I said this update wasn't going to blow minds or put people at ease. It's a confirmation that we're still working on things. The other thread is still open o people can keep those particular conversations over there.
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Posted By dcdp:
Then why not just say, "We have nothing further to add at this time"?
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Posted By Lobo:
Why do that when we have reliable folks like you who we know will come in and point that out for us. The post wasn't for you I guess. It was for the people who I've managed to dialogue with in here who aren't just looking to react and tell us how incompetent we are in every attempt we make.

Maybe avoid the forums for a few days to see where things land. It might do you some good.
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Posted By dcdp:
I have been
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Ban email:
The administration team at iStockphoto has revoked your forum privileges.  Comments from iStockphoto Administrators (if any):

David, I'm done going back and forth like this with you. Hopefully you can now focus on why you are here in the first place.

Lobo

« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2013, 00:31 »
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Someone needs a time out but it isn't you! If he keeps going he'll only have himself to argue with...

ShadySue

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« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2013, 04:48 »
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I can't remember why I was banned (hey, it was over two years ago), but I have posted the 'offending' posts here before. Essentially it was because I didn't quieten down quickly enough after the RC changes, he didn't like my one-liners and apparently he didn't like that I hadn't replied to my warning email (there was no invitation to reply, and no indication that it was necessary).

« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2013, 05:18 »
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Count me in, banned on thursday, after over 130 of my files were fraudently downloaded, resulting in  $1000 refunds in a short space of time. Managed to speak to someone at istock who told me this was a risk I took in selling online, I posted about it in the forums, Bonobo posted a snarky comment suggesting I was lying, locks the thread and bans me, no warning, no apology.

Loyal member for 10 years both as buyer and contributor (6years). Exclusive for 5, am absolutely disgusted, with him and with them.

What they seem to forget is the close relationship between contributors and buyers - sometimes they are one and the same person. They cannot carry on treating their customers with this much contempt and not expect there to be repercussions. Although I no longer purchase images directly, in my day job as Studio Manager/Art Director I am reponsible for sourcing quality imagery and suppliers, those suggestions will no longer include istock.
« Last Edit: February 01, 2013, 05:37 by mbug »

« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2013, 06:06 »
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...Bonobo posted a snarky comment...

While I appreciate the play on words, I think you are giving Bonobos a bad name. They are a gentle, peaceful genus, known for f$cking around solving their problems via sexual activity. I'm not sure the same applies to our hairy friend, nor am I sure I want to know  ;D

« Reply #15 on: February 01, 2013, 06:32 »
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...Bonobo posted a snarky comment...

While I appreciate the play on words, I think you are giving Bonobos a bad name. They are a gentle, peaceful genus, known for f$cking around solving their problems via sexual activity. I'm not sure the same applies to our hairy friend, nor am I sure I want to know  ;D

I stand corrected, I thought they were unpleasant and aggressive little primates, renowned for almost continual self abuse, as for our bullying friend, I really have no idea  :)
« Last Edit: February 01, 2013, 06:39 by mbug »

« Reply #16 on: February 01, 2013, 06:49 »
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...Bonobo posted a snarky comment...

While I appreciate the play on words, I think you are giving Bonobos a bad name. They are a gentle, peaceful genus, known for f$cking around solving their problems via sexual activity. I'm not sure the same applies to our hairy friend, nor am I sure I want to know  ;D

I stand corrected, I thought they were unpleasant and aggressive little primates, renowned for almost continual self abuse, as for our bullying friend, I really have no idea  :)

The aggressive ones are chimpanzees - at least they are capable of very complex intrigues and even murder. Very similar to humans. Bonobos are the only species that managed "make love not war". ;-)

« Reply #17 on: February 02, 2013, 02:53 »
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I've had a post deleted from that thread, responding not so happy clappy about the 'update' about MS and Google deals. I'm guessing I'm not the only one, so all the happy posts left are probably just the ones they haven't deleted.

« Reply #18 on: February 08, 2013, 17:30 »
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Hi i have just been banned from IS forum, and it is interesting, I was banned just because I wrote that the API yahoo deal was too complex for me to understand. Lobo came back to me and banned me because, according to him I should read his initial post. Which I did, but was too complex for me to understand. I think there is a more powerful reason than our light last posts to ban us. In the past I posted much stronger comments and I was not even called by lobo. There are a proccess of cleaning the forum just to have easy to handle people there and look better in front of getty big boys

Anyway, IS forums lately are not as interesting as they used to be. I wont miss posting there.

« Reply #19 on: February 08, 2013, 17:34 »
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The forums are almost dead and that is a sign of a dying company!

« Reply #20 on: February 08, 2013, 18:32 »
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Wow, Lobo just treats everyone like children. So unprofessonal. iStock must be getting very nervous to see so many bans for such stupid reasons.

Great job iStock on further alienating your contributors and further driving revenue from your site. What a bunch of idiots.

« Reply #21 on: February 08, 2013, 18:35 »
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Juan - I'm amazed that it has taken this long :)

Like most of the recent bans, it's nuts. You have a lot invested in iStock and are understandably not happy about recent events.

Lots of the conversation has moved from iStock forums to Facebook groups or here - and as the ranks of the banned grow, that's only going to accelerate

« Reply #22 on: February 08, 2013, 18:54 »
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Yes, they are definitely making an attempt to clean house.  Very touchy.

« Reply #23 on: February 08, 2013, 18:58 »
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They haven't banned you (yet) though? :)

« Reply #24 on: February 08, 2013, 19:32 »
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Sorry you have been banned, Juan.  It seems to me that it is a symptom of the current effort by iStock's resident sociopath, to divert discussion into tangential and anodyne directions (e.g. yoo-yay - there will be a restructuring of the forum structure!!!  Why had I been losing faith!?!   With this essential change, we can boldly go .... well - nowhere actually)

I stopped actively contributing to any 'Discussion' related threads, when iStock implemented the RC thing, on the basis that they had broken the spirit of the contract I signed, and were no longer a trustworthy agent/distributor/copyright-abuser.  I am still sorry that this decision has proved to be so well-founded. 

I may or may not agree with all/anything you say, but I do look forward to you contributing in this forum.

Regards



 

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