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« Reply #100 on: August 05, 2011, 14:36 »
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Say goodbye to KK   :'(


grp_photo

« Reply #101 on: August 05, 2011, 14:41 »
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Kelly moves to a  newly created VP-position at Getty, another VP is promoted to do CEO at iStock without loosing her VP-position at Getty so which looks like that iStock is the only one that is getting a demotion  ;D
And iStock gets a part-time CEO.
Exactly! "Oh iStock that's not important Rebecca can do it in her spare-time we have to concentrate on Thinkstock that is our Shutterstock-Killer"  8)

« Reply #102 on: August 05, 2011, 14:45 »
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Kelly moves to a  newly created VP-position at Getty, another VP is promoted to do CEO at iStock without loosing her VP-position at Getty so which looks like that iStock is the only one that is getting a demotion  ;D
And iStock gets a part-time CEO.
Exactly! "Oh iStock that's not important Rebecca can do it in her spare-time we have to concentrate on Thinkstock that is our Shutterstock-Killer"  8)

The BBC buys from TS. I try not to look at the pictures anymore on the website. ;)

grp_photo

« Reply #103 on: August 05, 2011, 14:49 »
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Kelly moves to a  newly created VP-position at Getty, another VP is promoted to do CEO at iStock without loosing her VP-position at Getty so which looks like that iStock is the only one that is getting a demotion  ;D
And iStock gets a part-time CEO.
Exactly! "Oh iStock that's not important Rebecca can do it in her spare-time we have to concentrate on Thinkstock that is our Shutterstock-Killer"  8)

The BBC buys from TS. I try not to look at the pictures anymore on the website. ;)

Yes and many more it is very obvious that Thinkstock is very important for Getty and they want it to succeed, I guess you can't say the same about iStock it lives in the shadows.

ShadySue

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« Reply #104 on: August 05, 2011, 15:16 »
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The BBC buys from TS. I try not to look at the pictures anymore on the website. ;)
As an iStocker, I'm as mad as Getty togs are when they see iStock photos being used.
As a licence payer, I guess it's OK.  ???

lisafx

« Reply #105 on: August 05, 2011, 15:39 »
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So perhaps someone should start a poll about what sort of royalty cut would have you deleting your IS portfolio rather than putting up with it :)

Perhaps it is naive, but I don't think another royalty cut is in the works.  They already have that covered with an RC system they can change every year.

Wondering if the inclusion of Clipart.com in their plans will mean that perhaps non-selling illustrations will go there, while non-selling photos go to TS? 

I am also wondering what they plan to do about redundancy across multiple sites - for example images that are on both IS and TS.  They recently gave non-exclusives the "opportunity" to self-select out best stuff and put it in P+.  Maybe that stays at IS and all the rest goes to TS? 

« Reply #106 on: August 05, 2011, 15:42 »
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When he joined iStock in 2004, he certainly couldnt have imagined how loathed iStock would be today. Or maybe he doesn't even know.

A handful of people here and a few old-timers are the only people who loath iStockphoto.

Most active contributors are probably earning more from (and via) iStockphoto than they were in 2004. And every buyer I have ever talked too thinks that iStockphoto is a fantastic resource.

You just go right on telling yourself that.   ;)

SNP

  • Canadian Photographer
« Reply #107 on: August 05, 2011, 15:45 »
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so, I didn't get any warm and fuzzies from her first post in the thread. not so much as a kind introduction....seems this is a biz as usual...bottomline kinda deal. I'm keeping my eye on our iStock advocates...the minute they start running for the hills, we all better get plan B going....hoping it doesn't go that way.

the dichotomy I see is that Getty wants to use iStock's traffic and success, however, they don't seem to take iStock seriously, nor iStock contributors seriously. I got the same impression in London, that they don't really know what to make of us at Getty, which certainly doesn't bode well as far as being 'listened' to.

anyways, too early to tell anything. decisions need to be based on facts and not speculation. right now we can only speculate so I'm once again, very very cautiously optimistic.

« Reply #108 on: August 05, 2011, 16:02 »
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Her "about me" post was very much one from a corporate manager not any sort of inspirational leader.

 I completely and utterly support the notion of making the site better for buyers - easier to navigate and to find the images they want at the price they want to pay. However I think it might have been wise to say something about contributors if in fact you had any thoughts at all about them as part of your management of Getty's crowdsourcing division (the site formerly known as iStockphoto)

SNP

  • Canadian Photographer
« Reply #109 on: August 05, 2011, 16:06 »
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Her "about me" post was very much one from a corporate manager not any sort of inspirational leader.

 I completely and utterly support the notion of making the site better for buyers - easier to navigate and to find the images they want at the price they want to pay. However I think it might have been wise to say something about contributors if in fact you had any thoughts at all about them as part of your management of Getty's crowdsourcing division (the site formerly known as iStockphoto)


I agree

lisafx

« Reply #110 on: August 05, 2011, 16:07 »
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+1 on both Stacey and JoAnn.  

Wow.  Not warm and fuzzy at all.  Could have been spewed out by a computer.

It looks like contributors will be pushed down another few rungs on the ladder of importance to Getty.  Rebecca's post, and Kelly's announcement both gave the impression that they regard OUR content as Getty's content, almost as though the people who create it don't exist or have any claim over it.  

rubyroo

« Reply #111 on: August 05, 2011, 16:12 »
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almost as though the people who create it don't exist or have any claim over it.  

Yes.  That's just how it feels to me too.  Well said.

microstockphoto.co.uk

« Reply #112 on: August 05, 2011, 16:14 »
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Kelly moves to a  newly created VP-position at Getty, another VP is promoted to do CEO at iStock without loosing her VP-position at Getty so which looks like that iStock is the only one that is getting a demotion  ;D
And iStock gets a part-time CEO.
Exactly! "Oh iStock that's not important Rebecca can do it in her spare-time we have to concentrate on Thinkstock that is our Shutterstock-Killer"  8)

The BBC buys from TS. I try not to look at the pictures anymore on the website. ;)

Yes and many more it is very obvious that Thinkstock is very important for Getty and they want it to succeed, I guess you can't say the same about iStock it lives in the shadows.

Yes, while my earnings at istock are going down every month, earnings at thinkstock are pretty much stable and not so bad. I see a brighter future for thinkstock than istock. Unfortunately prices are lower than shutterstock; otherwise - once I accepted subs - I have no problems with them

Shank_ali

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« Reply #113 on: August 05, 2011, 16:22 »
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I wish them both well in there new jobs and relocations.
It will not effect me in the slightest as i will just keep contributing my photographs and hopely make a decent second income from an enjoyable hobby.

« Reply #114 on: August 05, 2011, 17:03 »
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And every buyer I have ever talked too thinks that iStockphoto is a fantastic resource.

Just because a buyer thinks it's a fantastic resource doesn't mean they are still buying from there. ;)

SNP

  • Canadian Photographer
« Reply #115 on: August 05, 2011, 17:12 »
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I wish them both well in there new jobs and relocations.
It will not effect me in the slightest as i will just keep contributing my photographs and hopely make a decent second income from an enjoyable hobby.

nice cover Shank....

« Reply #116 on: August 05, 2011, 17:13 »
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Well, I like the no nonsense lets focus on getting more customers and sales approach. Just follow the money.

I think if she really sticks to the economics of it all, she will quickly understand the value of a strong crowd sourcing community. People are ready to work for free, whats not to like?

If she doesnt, the competitors will. Anyone remember Myspace?
« Last Edit: August 05, 2011, 17:26 by cobalt »

« Reply #117 on: August 05, 2011, 17:45 »
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Her "about me" post was very much one from a corporate manager not any sort of inspirational leader.

 I completely and utterly support the notion of making the site better for buyers - easier to navigate and to find the images they want at the price they want to pay. However I think it might have been wise to say something about contributors if in fact you had any thoughts at all about them as part of your management of Getty's crowdsourcing division (the site formerly known as iStockphoto)


She is a hired gun, she has bosses above her. Of course she cannot be a leader. She is just a lieutenant, more so than Kelly.

The only hope we can place on her is to get all the technical glitch fixed. That's what she proposes to do and let's hope her success at least in that.

« Reply #118 on: August 05, 2011, 19:28 »
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She is a hired gun, she has bosses above her. Of course she cannot be a leader. She is just a lieutenant, more so than Kelly.

Yep. Just another grey-suited Getty robot. Don't hold your breath on positive news anytime soon. Even if she actually understood the issues, which I very much doubt, it's unlikely she'd have either the balls or the authority to do what it will take to turn the ship around.

I doubt she's even there for the long haul anyway. Most probably Kelly missed his targets (by a country mile) and Rebecca has just been flown in to assess the situation whilst they work out what to do or find someone else. If we needed further proof that Istock is losing sales and market-share then we just got it.

« Reply #119 on: August 05, 2011, 20:32 »
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Another possibility is, Kelly does not want to deliver more bad news in September, so Getty brings in its own people who can handle the old timers' pleadings without emotional ties.

She is a hired gun, she has bosses above her. Of course she cannot be a leader. She is just a lieutenant, more so than Kelly.

Yep. Just another grey-suited Getty robot. Don't hold your breath on positive news anytime soon. Even if she actually understood the issues, which I very much doubt, it's unlikely she'd have either the balls or the authority to do what it will take to turn the ship around.

I doubt she's even there for the long haul anyway. Most probably Kelly missed his targets (by a country mile) and Rebecca has just been flown in to assess the situation whilst they work out what to do or find someone else. If we needed further proof that Istock is losing sales and market-share then we just got it.

lagereek

« Reply #120 on: August 06, 2011, 00:30 »
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  Thats right!  both are thinking Getty,  not IS. KK, is going and Rebecca is only there to take the heat when their inspectors start deciding if files should go to IS or straight down to PP, thats it. Most files will go to PP ofcourse!  this is the slow, slow, amalgamtion of IS, into TS. The ultimate horror scenario. Juanmonino, of IS, in their forum was the only one that touched the truth.

grp_photo

« Reply #121 on: August 06, 2011, 01:30 »
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she will quickly understand the value of a strong crowd sourcing community. People are ready to work for free, whats not to like?


Getty's crowd sourcing resource is Flickr, please don't get naive!

grp_photo

« Reply #122 on: August 06, 2011, 01:44 »
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And actually I'm pretty sure it is the community thing they wanna get rid off. And I do understand this it's just a pain in the ass for them costs them money, time etc. On TS they can make business as usual. The silence from Getty officials in the newly created Getty contributor forum speaks for itself people ask valid questions over there and many of them don't get answered and if they got answered it takes days. They don't wanna any community they wanna crowdsource therefore Flickr.
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« Reply #123 on: August 06, 2011, 02:32 »
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pretty calculating on her part not to mention contributors in her intro speech. It seems like an ominous sign for things to come for the contributors and she is smart not to make friends with contributors with warm and fuzzys like you guys say if her future actions clearly hurt contributors further. shes not going to get quoted saying this and such...

« Reply #124 on: August 06, 2011, 02:49 »
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When he joined iStock in 2004, he certainly couldnt have imagined how loathed iStock would be today. Or maybe he doesn't even know.

A handful of people here and a few old-timers are the only people who loath iStockphoto.

Most active contributors are probably earning more from (and via) iStockphoto than they were in 2004. And every buyer I have ever talked too thinks that iStockphoto is a fantastic resource.
I wasn't even there in 2004.  I think the 2004 to 2011 comparison is meaningless.  What counts is what has happened over the last 2 years.  And I think most active contributors have had a hard time with istock over the last 2 years, especially non-exclusives.  And there must be hundreds, if not thousands that lost a lot from them closing Stockxpert.  So I think you're also way out on the number of people that loathe Getty/istock.


 

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