Author Topic: Dead & Burried (Read 13775 times)

B8 · « **on:** May 27, 2015, 23:51 »

In the last 14 days or so I put up almost 200 new files. Not even one single view has been recorded on any of them at all. I guess the new new just keeps getting newer.

Sebastian Radu · « **Reply #1 on:** May 28, 2015, 00:34 »

This month I sold only one image! That is very strange even for my port $:-\$

skyfish · « **Reply #2 on:** May 28, 2015, 02:33 »

Quote from: Sebalos on May 28, 2015, 00:34

This month I sold only one image! That is very strange even for my port $:-\$

Check if they didn't modify your keywording. For me it was too often and corresponded to sales stop for images they touch. Classic example - removed key word "shrimps" from image where were only shrimps, nothing else, but they added "many" and "objects". Before i edited after them, then decided to not throw my time to this ...

ShadySue · « **Reply #3 on:** May 28, 2015, 02:48 »

Quote from: B8 on May 27, 2015, 23:51

In the last 14 days or so I put up almost 200 new files. Not even one single view has been recorded on any of them at all. I guess the new new just keeps getting newer.

Mod have noted over there that 'views are being recorded differently', but have offered no explanation.
Mind you, the last time they said only views from registered buyers counted, but someone here on msg (forget who, sorry) discovered that views from your 'friends' counted too. And that wasn't necessarily all, even though clearly very few views were showing.
So the new riddle is 'when is a view not a view'?
or, more pertinently, 'when is a view a view'?

Holmes · « **Reply #4 on:** May 28, 2015, 03:42 »

i have had sales of images with NO views.
expect the unexpected from IS

Digital66 · « **Reply #5 on:** May 28, 2015, 08:20 »

Quote from: ShadySue on May 28, 2015, 02:48

Quote from: B8 on May 27, 2015, 23:51
In the last 14 days or so I put up almost 200 new files. Not even one single view has been recorded on any of them at all. I guess the new new just keeps getting newer.
Mod have noted over there that 'views are being recorded differently', but have offered no explanation.
Mind you, the last time they said only views from registered buyers counted, but someone here on msg (forget who, sorry) discovered that views from your 'friends' counted too. And that wasn't necessarily all, even though clearly very few views were showing.
So the new riddle is 'when is a view not a view'?
or, more pertinently, 'when is a view a view'?

And even more important: When is a sale not a sale? I have now lots of sales showing only on the old style ADP pages and search results pages but not in file download history pages and sub reports.

ShadySue · « **Reply #6 on:** May 28, 2015, 08:48 »

Quote from: Digital66 on May 28, 2015, 08:20

Quote from: ShadySue on May 28, 2015, 02:48
Quote from: B8 on May 27, 2015, 23:51
In the last 14 days or so I put up almost 200 new files. Not even one single view has been recorded on any of them at all. I guess the new new just keeps getting newer.
Mod have noted over there that 'views are being recorded differently', but have offered no explanation.
Mind you, the last time they said only views from registered buyers counted, but someone here on msg (forget who, sorry) discovered that views from your 'friends' counted too. And that wasn't necessarily all, even though clearly very few views were showing.
So the new riddle is 'when is a view not a view'?
or, more pertinently, 'when is a view a view'?
And even more important: When is a sale not a sale? I have now lots of sales showing only on the old style ADP pages and search results pages but not in file download history pages and sub reports.

This is a noted bug over there.
But your observation is interesting. I'd thought, based on a couple of recent files showing the ghost download which I can see (I can't imagine the time which would be involved in searching through all my files) that they were sub sales which had somehow been reported as 'proper' sales, but you say yours aren't showing up as subs. Oh well, we'll just have to leave it to them to figure it out.

$:-\$

Digital66 · « **Reply #7 on:** May 28, 2015, 14:35 »

Quote from: ShadySue on May 28, 2015, 08:48

Quote from: Digital66 on May 28, 2015, 08:20
Quote from: ShadySue on May 28, 2015, 02:48
Quote from: B8 on May 27, 2015, 23:51
In the last 14 days or so I put up almost 200 new files. Not even one single view has been recorded on any of them at all. I guess the new new just keeps getting newer.
Mod have noted over there that 'views are being recorded differently', but have offered no explanation.
Mind you, the last time they said only views from registered buyers counted, but someone here on msg (forget who, sorry) discovered that views from your 'friends' counted too. And that wasn't necessarily all, even though clearly very few views were showing.
So the new riddle is 'when is a view not a view'?
or, more pertinently, 'when is a view a view'?
And even more important: When is a sale not a sale? I have now lots of sales showing only on the old style ADP pages and search results pages but not in file download history pages and sub reports.
This is a noted bug over there.
But your observation is interesting. I'd thought, based on a couple of recent files showing the ghost download which I can see (I can't imagine the time which would be involved in searching through all my files) that they were sub sales which had somehow been reported as 'proper' sales, but you say yours aren't showing up as subs. Oh well, we'll just have to leave it to them to figure it out. $:-\$

Yes, I know it's a noted "bug" over there. A "bug" that's been affecting many of my files.

Let's see just one example:
On search results, on of my files shows 773 downloads. However, according to the records at my_uploads page or at its download history page, that file has only 763 downloads.
At first I thought the missing 10 downloads could have been subscriptions. But when I go to subscritions report, this file has had more than 50 subs downloads. Getty sales maybe? Nope! It has had only 4 of those. Old credit subscriptions? Nope!

tickstock · « **Reply #8 on:** May 28, 2015, 14:43 »

Quote from: Digital66 on May 28, 2015, 14:35

Quote from: ShadySue on May 28, 2015, 08:48
Quote from: Digital66 on May 28, 2015, 08:20
Quote from: ShadySue on May 28, 2015, 02:48
Quote from: B8 on May 27, 2015, 23:51
In the last 14 days or so I put up almost 200 new files. Not even one single view has been recorded on any of them at all. I guess the new new just keeps getting newer.
Mod have noted over there that 'views are being recorded differently', but have offered no explanation.
Mind you, the last time they said only views from registered buyers counted, but someone here on msg (forget who, sorry) discovered that views from your 'friends' counted too. And that wasn't necessarily all, even though clearly very few views were showing.
So the new riddle is 'when is a view not a view'?
or, more pertinently, 'when is a view a view'?
And even more important: When is a sale not a sale? I have now lots of sales showing only on the old style ADP pages and search results pages but not in file download history pages and sub reports.
This is a noted bug over there.
But your observation is interesting. I'd thought, based on a couple of recent files showing the ghost download which I can see (I can't imagine the time which would be involved in searching through all my files) that they were sub sales which had somehow been reported as 'proper' sales, but you say yours aren't showing up as subs. Oh well, we'll just have to leave it to them to figure it out. $:-\$
Yes, I know it's a noted "bug" over there. A "bug" that's been affecting many of my files.

Let's see just one example:
On search results, on of my files shows 773 downloads. However, according to the records at my_uploads page or at its download history page, that file has only 763 downloads.
At first I thought the missing 10 downloads could have been subscriptions. But when I go to subscritions report, this file has had more than 50 subs downloads. Getty sales maybe? Nope! It has had only 4 of those. Old credit subscriptions? Nope!

Are you using the chrome or greasemonkey script? The new subscription sales don't count (neither do partner program subs). Where are you seeing downloads on the 'search results'?

ShadySue · « **Reply #9 on:** May 28, 2015, 15:39 »

OK, my ghost sales aren't an exact mapping looking at recent files which have no credit dls but are recorded as having selling as subs, just a couple. So that theory was wrong. Good - maybe we've got money coming to us. Let's hope so!

Digital66 · « **Reply #10 on:** May 28, 2015, 16:29 »

Quote from: tickstock on May 28, 2015, 14:43

Where are you seeing downloads on the 'search results'?

On any search results page you can see your downloads total at the bottom of the image (just where they have always been).

Digital66 · « **Reply #11 on:** May 28, 2015, 16:30 »

Quote from: ShadySue on May 28, 2015, 15:39

Good - maybe we've got money coming to us. Let's hope so!

Let's hope so!

tickstock · « **Reply #12 on:** May 28, 2015, 16:34 »

Quote from: Digital66 on May 28, 2015, 16:29

Quote from: tickstock on May 28, 2015, 14:43
Where are you seeing downloads on the 'search results'?
On any search results page you can see your downloads total at the bottom of the image (just where they have always been).

I don't see download totals unless I change the display settings and then I only see >10 or >100.

ShadySue · « **Reply #13 on:** May 28, 2015, 16:35 »

Quote from: tickstock on May 28, 2015, 16:34

Quote from: Digital66 on May 28, 2015, 16:29
Quote from: tickstock on May 28, 2015, 14:43
Where are you seeing downloads on the 'search results'?
On any search results page you can see your downloads total at the bottom of the image (just where they have always been).
I don't see download totals unless I change the display settings and then I only see >10 or >100.

Within your own portfolio?
I see exact numbers in mine.
Maybe we're on different design iterations.

Digital66 · « **Reply #14 on:** May 28, 2015, 16:46 »

Quote from: tickstock on May 28, 2015, 16:34

Quote from: Digital66 on May 28, 2015, 16:29
Quote from: tickstock on May 28, 2015, 14:43
Where are you seeing downloads on the 'search results'?
On any search results page you can see your downloads total at the bottom of the image (just where they have always been).
I don't see download totals unless I change the display settings and then I only see >10 or >100.

Try F5. Sometimes I only see the >10 or >100 but after F5 I can see exact number.

tickstock · « **Reply #15 on:** May 28, 2015, 16:46 »

Quote from: ShadySue on May 28, 2015, 16:35

Quote from: tickstock on May 28, 2015, 16:34
Quote from: Digital66 on May 28, 2015, 16:29
Quote from: tickstock on May 28, 2015, 14:43
Where are you seeing downloads on the 'search results'?
On any search results page you can see your downloads total at the bottom of the image (just where they have always been).
I don't see download totals unless I change the display settings and then I only see >10 or >100.
Within your own portfolio?
I see exact numbers in mine.
Maybe we're on different design iterations.

It's switching back and forth, probably different iterations like you said. Maybe the numbers are different because you're seeing it cached from a different time? I haven't looked too closely but mine seem to match up.

ShadySue · « **Reply #16 on:** May 28, 2015, 17:06 »

Quote from: tickstock on May 28, 2015, 16:46

Quote from: ShadySue on May 28, 2015, 16:35
Quote from: tickstock on May 28, 2015, 16:34
Quote from: Digital66 on May 28, 2015, 16:29
Quote from: tickstock on May 28, 2015, 14:43
Where are you seeing downloads on the 'search results'?

On any search results page you can see your downloads total at the bottom of the image (just where they have always been).

I don't see download totals unless I change the display settings and then I only see >10 or >100.

Within your own portfolio?
I see exact numbers in mine.
Maybe we're on different design iterations.

It's switching back and forth, probably different iterations like you said. Maybe the numbers are different because you're seeing it cached from a different time? I haven't looked too closely but mine seem to match up.

It's acknowleged as a bug and when they get it sorted, it'll be posted on the bugs thread, according to Lobo http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=367033&messageid=7103733
On the OP on the bugs thread, it's recorded as being reported from the 6th of March, which gives an idea how important solving the discrepancy is to them.
Strangely, clicking HERE on that bug report to see the original example just takes me to the home page.

breamal73 · « **Reply #17 on:** May 28, 2015, 19:10 »

I have a small port, less than 200, so fairly easy to check most of my port.
A couple of weeks back I started comparing DL numbers under the thumbnails in my port, not the old ADP, and the numbers for the same files in the My Uploads page and so far I've found around 40 extra DLs.
Whilst it's not possible to know exactly when the discrepancies for all the files began, I have seen around 10 DL increases for thumbnail details since starting to check without any corresponding increase in royalties or changes in the My Uploads page.
You're not allowed to talk about it in the forums, unless your post claims it's a bug showing false DLs, otherwise your post gets deleted especially by Kelvinjay who has become very trigger happy with the delete button.
I suppose the only way to find out for sure if we're being conned is to get known associates with iStock accounts to download some of our files to see if we get paid accordingly.

Digital66 · « **Reply #18 on:** May 28, 2015, 19:28 »

Quote from: crispy on May 28, 2015, 19:10

I have a small port, less than 200, so fairly easy to check most of my port.
A couple of weeks back I started comparing DL numbers under the thumbnails in my port, not the old ADP, and the numbers for the same files in the My Uploads page and so far I've found around 40 extra DLs.
Whilst it's not possible to know exactly when the discrepancies for all the files began, I have seen around 10 DL increases for thumbnail details since starting to check without any corresponding increase in royalties or changes in the My Uploads page.
You're not allowed to talk about it in the forums, unless your post claims it's a bug showing false DLs, otherwise your post gets deleted especially by Kelvinjay who has become very trigger happy with the delete button.

Yep, that's the situation over there.

kelby · « **Reply #19 on:** May 28, 2015, 20:03 »

Mind you 2 things :

1) only the views done with the old ADP are recorded
2) ghost sales are all subscription downloads

Take care

Digital66 · « **Reply #20 on:** May 28, 2015, 21:29 »

Quote from: kelby on May 28, 2015, 20:03

ghost sales are all subscription downloads

No, no, no. You're wrong.

B8 · « **Reply #21 on:** May 29, 2015, 03:22 »

I expect Monday views and sales will start ratcheting down even lower with the start of the June summer months. I am expecting to see an even newer new.

ShadySue · « **Reply #22 on:** May 29, 2015, 04:00 »

Quote from: Digital66 on May 28, 2015, 21:29

Quote from: kelby on May 28, 2015, 20:03
ghost sales are all subscription downloads
No, no, no. You're wrong.

Maybe, maybe not. I've just realised that where my ghost sales don't map to subs, they could be May sub sales. A curse on subs (it can't be said too often).
Whatever, they'll give an explanation and we'll have to accept it unless we have proof to the contrary. And if we do, heaven help us.

kelby · « **Reply #23 on:** May 29, 2015, 05:19 »

Quote from: Digital66 on May 28, 2015, 21:29

Quote from: kelby on May 28, 2015, 20:03
ghost sales are all subscription downloads
No, no, no. You're wrong.

look at your sub sales of april to have the confirmation

trust me ..are all sub sales that will be payed the next month

Digital66 · « **Reply #24 on:** May 29, 2015, 08:13 »

Quote from: kelby on May 29, 2015, 05:19

Quote from: Digital66 on May 28, 2015, 21:29
Quote from: kelby on May 28, 2015, 20:03
ghost sales are all subscription downloads
No, no, no. You're wrong.
look at your sub sales of april to have the confirmation
trust me ..are all sub sales that will be payed the next month

Nope

tickstock · « **Reply #25 on:** May 29, 2015, 11:00 »

From the forum:
"We've identified the issue causing the phantom download issue. It's a display issue that isn't impacting royalties in any way. We have a fix that we are hoping to push live as early as EOD (Friday May 29) but more likely early next week. Again, I will repeat; There aren't any royalty related issues attached to this bug. It's 100% a display issue which we will be resolving shortly."

ShadySue · « **Reply #26 on:** May 29, 2015, 13:22 »

Wow! The power of msg!

Digital66 · « **Reply #27 on:** May 30, 2015, 21:38 »

Quote

From the forum:
"We've identified the issue causing the phantom download issue. It's a display issue that isn't impacting royalties in any way. We have a fix that we are hoping to push live as early as EOD (Friday May 29) but more likely early next week. Again, I will repeat; There aren't any royalty related issues attached to this bug. It's 100% a display issue which we will be resolving shortly."

Oh sure... a "display issue"

KB · « **Reply #28 on:** May 31, 2015, 11:38 »

Quote from: Digital66 on May 30, 2015, 21:38

Quote
From the forum:
"We've identified the issue causing the phantom download issue. It's a display issue that isn't impacting royalties in any way. We have a fix that we are hoping to push live as early as EOD (Friday May 29) but more likely early next week. Again, I will repeat; There aren't any royalty related issues attached to this bug. It's 100% a display issue which we will be resolving shortly."
Oh sure... a "display issue"

I am shocked and dismayed by the implication that you don't believe what they say. I mean what has Getty ever done to warrant that mistrust?

Don't bother answering. No one has time to read a list that long.

Phadrea · « **Reply #29 on:** June 01, 2015, 04:27 »

My image sales were surprisingly good this May after being dead for some time. The audio side suffered though. sales slumped.

dpimborough · « **Reply #30 on:** June 01, 2015, 04:40 »

Quote from: ShadySue on May 29, 2015, 13:22

Wow! The power of msg!

I thought monosodium glutamate was banned?

Sebastian Radu · « **Reply #31 on:** June 01, 2015, 23:26 »

Hello,

If I have over 100$ in my account, so when this number will be reset ?

Thx !

Sulio · « **Reply #32 on:** June 01, 2015, 23:59 »

Quote from: tickstock on May 29, 2015, 11:00

From the forum:
"We've identified the issue causing the phantom download issue. It's a display issue that isn't impacting royalties in any way. We have a fix that we are hoping to push live as early as EOD (Friday May 29) but more likely early next week. Again, I will repeat; There aren't any royalty related issues attached to this bug. It's 100% a display issue which we will be resolving shortly."

HaHaHa HoHoHoo Argrgrrr HaHoHaHa OinkOink WoYay

ShadySue · « **Reply #33 on:** June 02, 2015, 03:30 »

Quote from: Sebalos on June 01, 2015, 23:26

Hello,

If I have over 100$ in my account, so when this number will be reset ?

Thx !

Should be the 5th, as per the schedule http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=364057&messageid=7061349

Sebastian Radu · « **Reply #34 on:** June 02, 2015, 03:32 »

Quote from: ShadySue on June 02, 2015, 03:30

Quote from: Sebalos on June 01, 2015, 23:26
Hello,

If I have over 100$ in my account, so when this number will be reset ?

Thx !

Should be the 5th, as per the schedule http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=364057&messageid=7061349

Thank you!
But I don't receive any "note" on "the last day"

ShadySue · « **Reply #35 on:** June 02, 2015, 03:48 »

Quote from: Sebalos on June 02, 2015, 03:32

Quote from: ShadySue on June 02, 2015, 03:30
Quote from: Sebalos on June 01, 2015, 23:26
Hello,

If I have over 100$ in my account, so when this number will be reset ?

Thx !

Should be the 5th, as per the schedule http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=364057&messageid=7061349

Thank you!
But I don't receive any "note" on "the last day"

It doesn't say you'll receive a note.
It says 'a note will be make of your balance'.
Meaning they take note of it, because that's what you'll get paid.

JPSDK · « **Reply #36 on:** June 03, 2015, 11:26 »

I dont understand this thread, and I dont have to.

I am in a position where I dont have to find out which scam istock has now imposed.
Im free of istock.
That feels good. I dont have to read and think and think again about how Im abused.

I quit istock 2 years ago, and I have never regretted.
And do I miss my 5000 dollars per year sales? No I dont, because I know I took 70.000 dollars out of their mouth.

PixelBytes · « **Reply #37 on:** June 03, 2015, 13:12 »

Quote from: JPSDK on June 03, 2015, 11:26

I dont understand this thread, and I dont have to.

I am in a position where I dont have to find out which scam istock has now imposed.
Im free of istock.
That feels good. I dont have to read and think and think again about how Im abused.

I quit istock 2 years ago, and I have never regretted.
And do I miss my 5000 dollars per year sales? No I dont, because I know I took 70.000 dollars out of their mouth.

That 5k per month would be 500/month now anyway if my experience is anything to go by.

Eyedesign · « **Reply #38 on:** June 03, 2015, 13:57 »

Quote from: PixelBytes on June 03, 2015, 13:12

Quote from: JPSDK on June 03, 2015, 11:26
I dont understand this thread, and I dont have to.

I am in a position where I dont have to find out which scam istock has now imposed.
Im free of istock.
That feels good. I dont have to read and think and think again about how Im abused.

I quit istock 2 years ago, and I have never regretted.
And do I miss my 5000 dollars per year sales? No I dont, because I know I took 70.000 dollars out of their mouth.

That 5k per month would be 500/month now anyway if my experience is anything to go by.

He didn't say anything about 5K per month. More like 400 + per month, for 5000K per year.

ShadySue · « **Reply #39 on:** June 03, 2015, 14:00 »

Quote from: Eyedesign on June 03, 2015, 13:57

Quote from: PixelBytes on June 03, 2015, 13:12
Quote from: JPSDK on June 03, 2015, 11:26
I dont understand this thread, and I dont have to.

I am in a position where I dont have to find out which scam istock has now imposed.
Im free of istock.
That feels good. I dont have to read and think and think again about how Im abused.

I quit istock 2 years ago, and I have never regretted.
And do I miss my 5000 dollars per year sales? No I dont, because I know I took 70.000 dollars out of their mouth.

That 5k per month would be 500/month now anyway if my experience is anything to go by.

He didn't say anything about 5K per month. More like 400 + per month, for 5000K per year.

Whatever, it still would almsot certainly be down by a long way nowadays.

PixelBytes · « **Reply #40 on:** June 03, 2015, 23:38 »

Quote from: Eyedesign on June 03, 2015, 13:57

Quote from: PixelBytes on June 03, 2015, 13:12
Quote from: JPSDK on June 03, 2015, 11:26
I dont understand this thread, and I dont have to.

I am in a position where I dont have to find out which scam istock has now imposed.
Im free of istock.
That feels good. I dont have to read and think and think again about how Im abused.

I quit istock 2 years ago, and I have never regretted.
And do I miss my 5000 dollars per year sales? No I dont, because I know I took 70.000 dollars out of their mouth.

That 5k per month would be 500/month now anyway if my experience is anything to go by.

He didn't say anything about 5K per month. More like 400 + per month, for 5000K per year.

Your right, I misread. Still it is safe to say many of us who are still with Istock are dropped to nearly 1/10 of what we used to get there.

Sebastian Radu · « **Reply #41 on:** June 05, 2015, 01:29 »

Quote from: ShadySue on June 02, 2015, 03:48

Quote from: Sebalos on June 02, 2015, 03:32
Quote from: ShadySue on June 02, 2015, 03:30
Quote from: Sebalos on June 01, 2015, 23:26
Hello,

If I have over 100$ in my account, so when this number will be reset ?

Thx !

Should be the 5th, as per the schedule http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=364057&messageid=7061349

Thank you!
But I don't receive any "note" on "the last day"

It doesn't say you'll receive a note.
It says 'a note will be make of your balance'.
Meaning they take note of it, because that's what you'll get paid.

So, according to: "Step 2 - On the 5th day of the following month, the amount noted in Step 1 is removed from your balance", today my numbers should be 0, but, I still have over 100 $ in my account $:-\$

Dumc · « **Reply #42 on:** June 05, 2015, 01:48 »

Patience is a virtue.

ShadySue · « **Reply #43 on:** June 05, 2015, 03:05 »

Quote from: Dumc on June 05, 2015, 01:48

Patience is a virtue.

Absolutely. We are only 1 hour into the Getty day (01:04) if I have my time zones correct.

ShadySue · « **Reply #44 on:** June 05, 2015, 04:16 »

[double post, sorry]

Sebastian Radu · « **Reply #45 on:** June 06, 2015, 04:05 »

I still have all my money in account $:-\$
PP has started...

Dumc · « **Reply #46 on:** June 06, 2015, 05:39 »

It's weekend dear god. Just relax and wait and stop posting every day! You will get your money.

ShadySue · « **Reply #47 on:** June 06, 2015, 07:25 »

Quote from: Sebalos on June 06, 2015, 04:05

I still have all my money in account $:-\$
PP has started...

You need to get used to iS not doing things when they say they will.
You must be pretty new to iS not to know this, so congrats for reaching $100. I hate to think how far I'd need to go back in my 'recent uploads' until I got to $100 counting backwards only.

They say they will post a notice when this happens, but sometimes they don't, and when they do it's often late.

If you need the money for bills or food, you'd be better to apply to McDonalds/whatever.

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