Author Topic: December stats are up (Read 5632 times)

Jo Ann Snover · « **on:** January 17, 2025, 20:09 »

A decent month. I have to remember to keep breathing when I see a great license for one of my newer images - $122.xx and beside it 15% of that for my share!

I could double the royalty rate if I went exclusive again

Pacesetter · « **Reply #1 on:** January 17, 2025, 20:22 »

Looks like you beat me to the forum post - probably while I was fiddling with filtering my RPDs.

Anyway may as well join the conversation here...

December is the slowest month of the year for me. Still December 2024 was a bit better than December 2023 and December 2022.

A quick filter of the data shows video achieved a $3.30 RPD and photos achieved a little over $0.40 (40 cents) RPD.

ShadySue · « **Reply #2 on:** January 17, 2025, 20:33 »

Highest number of sales for many years, but lowish rpd.
Bizarrely, a swathe of GI Single Asset sales, all of the same subject, for 6c per download (each sold twice, so 12c). No idea what went on there, as GI Single Assets normally sell for much more - though I had one for 3c once.

Still, best Dec since 2019.
Also, 2024 overall up from 2023, and indeed best year since 2019, but I made more uploading effort, which has paid off, relatively for my port, for nowadays.
(stills only)

SimonSays · « **Reply #3 on:** January 18, 2025, 02:01 »

Quote from: ShadySue on January 17, 2025, 20:33

Bizarrely, a swathe of GI Single Asset sales, all of the same subject, for 6c per download (each sold twice, so 12c). No idea what went on there, as GI Single Assets normally sell for much more - though I had one for 3c once.

Were those sales by any chance coming from Japan and purchased in two days (25th and 26th of December)?

Devotio777 · « **Reply #4 on:** January 18, 2025, 04:26 »

80 dollars, which is an average month for me (around 2000 assets)

One photo sold 11 times, earning 33 dollars, the rest is not interesting.

Oh, and I always hope to sell video (even though I only have a handful of them at istock) to raise my overall RPD. In this case I have one video sale, guess for how much... 13 flippin cents

synthetick · « **Reply #5 on:** January 18, 2025, 05:50 »

I was happy with the month. It confirmed what I was predicting, that I have revitalised my port enough to take my annual revenue back to above pre-2017 levels. One thing that's a bit disappointing is that I have a vector best-seller that seems to be approaching the end of its lifespan. I got randomly lucky with the algorithm and it peaked at 80 DL's per month in April 2024, but now is down to 24 downloads per month. It's still has very high visibility though - it's still on page 1 of a search for "pattern background", so maybe the decline is due to a lot of subscribers having already licensed it, and there not being enough new subscribers?

cobalt · « **Reply #6 on:** January 18, 2025, 06:06 »

44 dollars reported revenue on stockperformer.

But I am getting a payout with 176 dollars with previous months. At the moment a payout every three months.

I am slowly uploading again, we will see if it helps.

PinHead · « **Reply #7 on:** January 18, 2025, 06:07 »

Anyone received any AI training royalties for 2024 on Istock??

ShadySue · « **Reply #8 on:** January 18, 2025, 06:11 »

Quote from: SimonSays on January 18, 2025, 02:01

Quote from: ShadySue on January 17, 2025, 20:33
Bizarrely, a swathe of GI Single Asset sales, all of the same subject, for 6c per download (each sold twice, so 12c). No idea what went on there, as GI Single Assets normally sell for much more - though I had one for 3c once.
Were those sales by any chance coming from Japan and purchased in two days (25th and 26th of December)?

First sales on 20th and 21st Dec, 2nd sales of all on 26th Dec, and all from Japan. Subject: sea mammals

ShadySue · « **Reply #9 on:** January 18, 2025, 06:15 »

Quote from: PinHead on January 18, 2025, 06:07

Anyone received any AI training royalties for 2024 on Istock??

In November, and for me it was 2 files, $3.13 total.

Most people who reported seem to be underwhelmed.
They are only going to be reported in the November month sales (reported December) every year.

In Todayis20 they show up as 'Consolidated'

adempercem · « **Reply #10 on:** January 18, 2025, 06:22 »

Hi. My average income for December is...

by the way, have the "AI Service" payments been made?
I received a message last month.

Date: 12/17/2024 3:59 PM
This month's Connect (.txt) statement includes the first annual, recurring AI Services royalties.

Getty Images believes generative artificial Intelligence (AI) can enhance the creative pursuits of our customers in tandem with the creativity, authenticity, and expertise embedded in our pre-shot creative offerings where your contributions are key. Getty Images also believes generative AI models need to respect and reward long-standing intellectual property rights to protect creators and sustain future creation.
................
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.....

ShadySue · « **Reply #11 on:** January 18, 2025, 06:31 »

Quote from: Jo Ann Snover on January 17, 2025, 20:09

A decent month. I have to remember to keep breathing when I see a great license for one of my newer images - $122.xx and beside it 15% of that for my share!

I could double the royalty rate if I went exclusive again

Congrats, Jo Ann, and I feel your pain.
However - most (maybe [?] not quite all) of these high value sales are via Getty, so only get us 20%, no matter which level we're on. Remember, it's all smoke and mirrors (i.e. hidden in the Small Print) with Getty!

ShadySue · « **Reply #12 on:** January 18, 2025, 07:13 »

Quote from: adempercem on January 18, 2025, 06:22

Hi. My average income for December is...

by the way, have the "AI Service" payments been made?

See reply #9. You were probably typing while I posted. Although it's listed as "Consolidated" in TodayIs20, it's "AI Services" elsewhere.

Jo Ann Snover · « **Reply #13 on:** January 18, 2025, 08:00 »

Quote from: ShadySue on January 18, 2025, 06:31

Quote from: Jo Ann Snover on January 17, 2025, 20:09
A decent month. I have to remember to keep breathing when I see a great license for one of my newer images - $122.xx and beside it 15% of that for my share!

I could double the royalty rate if I went exclusive again
.... most (maybe [?] not quite all) of these high value sales are via Getty, so only get us 20%, no matter which level we're on. Remember, it's all smoke and mirrors (i.e. hidden in the Small Print) with Getty!

Good reminder!

I did go back to look, and that - as well as some other higher value licenses - were from iStock, not Getty. I take it that your Getty sales section shows 20% in the PDF statement versus your earned royalty rate for the other (non Connect) sections?

The month's RPD was better than many this year, but $0.68 is still pretty low.

Having been exclusive for a few years once before, I have no illusions. When all the agencies are behaving badly, the appeal of dealing with only one miscreant goes up

ShadySue · « **Reply #14 on:** January 18, 2025, 09:15 »

Quote from: Jo Ann Snover on January 18, 2025, 08:00

<snip>
Good reminder!

I did go back to look, and that - as well as some other higher value licenses - were from iStock, not Getty. I take it that your Getty sales section shows 20% in the PDF statement versus your earned royalty rate for the other (non Connect) sections?

The month's RPD was better than many this year, but $0.68 is still pretty low.

Having been exclusive for a few years once before, I have no illusions. When all the agencies are behaving badly, the appeal of dealing with only one miscreant goes up

I don't know about the pdf, but in DeepMeta is shows as Rate, e.g.

SimonSays · « **Reply #15 on:** January 18, 2025, 10:52 »

Quote from: ShadySue on January 18, 2025, 06:11

Quote from: SimonSays on January 18, 2025, 02:01
Quote from: ShadySue on January 17, 2025, 20:33
Bizarrely, a swathe of GI Single Asset sales, all of the same subject, for 6c per download (each sold twice, so 12c). No idea what went on there, as GI Single Assets normally sell for much more - though I had one for 3c once.
Were those sales by any chance coming from Japan and purchased in two days (25th and 26th of December)?

First sales on 20th and 21st Dec, 2nd sales of all on 26th Dec, and all from Japan. Subject: sea mammals

Same here. 7 photos of seals bought twice for $0.045 commission a piece. All GI Single Asset (RF Image). It was through partner portal, COO Agent, it says.

yuriy · « **Reply #16 on:** January 18, 2025, 11:44 »

not a bad month per se but first month in my istock career that i earned less than the year before.

Jo Ann Snover · « **Reply #17 on:** January 18, 2025, 16:33 »

Quote from: ShadySue on January 18, 2025, 06:31

...most (maybe [?] not quite all) of these high value sales are via Getty, so only get us 20%, no matter which level we're on. Remember, it's all smoke and mirrors (i.e. hidden in the Small Print) with Getty!

In case this is useful to anyone else mad enough to be considering iStock exclusivity(!) I thought I'd share my calculations.

I spent a little time today with Google sheets to look at my 2024 downloads and royalties to see what they would have been for an exclusive contributor at the 30% royalty level. I use DeepMeta's online stats but I couldn't see any way to get the information I needed from that.

The hypothetical exclusive royalties, just based on raising my current 15% across the board to 20% for Getty and partner licenses and 30% for iStock licenses would increase by 74%. IOW quite a bit less than double as I had naively been thinking.

Each month the number and $$ value of Getty vs iStock sales varies - a low of 31% Getty sales in October to a high of 51% in November. The Getty RPD was higher every month, but the higher volume of iStock sales more than made up.

With the different increases for the two sections if I apply exclusive rates, iStock goes from 61% in 2024 to 70% in the hypothetical total; Getty's portion drops from 38% to 29%

It's just about impossible to predict what the split would be for another contributor or me in another year, but clearly where the additional sales are made matters - I'd do much better with my December $122 license being sold from iStock (going from 15% to 30%) versus from Getty (going from 15% to 20%)

YMMV

mindoozas · « **Reply #18 on:** January 18, 2025, 17:30 »

ShadySue · « **Reply #19 on:** January 18, 2025, 19:31 »

Quote from: Jo Ann Snover on January 18, 2025, 16:33

It's just about impossible to predict what the split would be for another contributor or me in another year, but clearly where the additional sales are made matters - I'd do much better with my December $122 license being sold from iStock (going from 15% to 30%) versus from Getty (going from 15% to 20%)

It wouldn't surprise me if the sales agents aren't incentivised to encourage buyers to commit to the system which allows Getty to take 80% of the royalties, rather than 70% or less. I don't know that's happening, I just wouldn't be surprised.

As well as the "RF sales" (highest value down to very low value) being @ 20%, so are all (AFAICS) the 'Premium Access Time Limited' sales.

As the "royalty distribution by transaction type" chart shows, like dls and $$, the different types of sale vary a lot from month to month, like you said, and presumably from person to person.

It's really impossible to predict what's going to happen. Will Getty do away with exclusivity altogether? Will any number of possible scenarios happen after the merger?

Exciting times!

cobalt · « **Reply #20 on:** January 19, 2025, 08:01 »

I think if there is a strong influx of new fully exclusive istock producers, there is a real risk, that getty might reduce toyalty payouts on istock. There would still be the advantage of higher prices, plus having files moved into even higher priced exclusive getty collections.

But I don't think any changes like these would happen quickly.

They first have to digest the merger, which might take 3 years to complete.

Also they really need to work an a midjourney killer app. Adobe has the advantage it can offer photoshop tools combined with ai, but Getty does not have that.

So if clients start doing more content with midjourney and then amend that to their needs with adobe photoshop ai, they lose these clients.

They also need to have their own beautiful and very high quality ready ai collection for customers to buy.

And since they will want a closed loop system of only accepting content from properly licensed ai, it will probably require producers using their own ai app only.

They will then also make a lot of money from hopeful ai producers who will have to pay getty for this new app every month.

But if the quality is better than midjourney, they will be able to attract a lot of people.

For the general public it will also require building a community to making the app more addictive and gamefying it.

They might also try to buy some ai apps and communities.

tätarätä · « **Reply #21 on:** January 19, 2025, 09:30 »

Getty Images is not a very large company. They also have some dept. I don't think that Getty Images will be able to develop, or buy any important AI Companies.
Not very large means, i am working for a company with about 3 billion cash just for Europe to buy some Companies.
We could buy Getty Images just with cash if we wanted.
Its not only about the software engineers, there would be also tens of billions needed to built data centers running ai software at a professional level.
Getty Images is just to small to be a big player at ai.
I think Getty Images won't change much at istock / GI. They ar driven by authentically images. Maybe Shutterstock will open ports to ai images. So if costumers want ai images they can buy from Shutterstock.

cobalt · « **Reply #22 on:** January 19, 2025, 13:14 »

What about Nvidia?

You think they are big enough to build a midjourney killer app? Or buy a company?

And then release it together with getty, or getty does the market for designers?

Stockhome Syndrome · « **Reply #23 on:** January 19, 2025, 14:32 »

I'm new to using DeepMeta for iStock/Getty. What are "connect" downloads, and why does iStock seperate them in the TXT reports?

Jo Ann Snover · « **Reply #24 on:** January 19, 2025, 16:38 »

Quote from: Stockhome Syndrome on January 19, 2025, 14:32

I'm new to using DeepMeta for iStock/Getty. What are "connect" downloads, and why does iStock seperate them in the TXT reports?

https://www.fastcompany.com/1817835/connect-getty-images-leaps-21st-century

If you load these into DeepMeta 4 (online) you'll see that the amounts are very, very small for Connect royalties.

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Author Topic: December stats are up (Read 5632 times)

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