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« on: March 02, 2010, 11:49 »
So after a several day long headache, and multiple conversations by phone and email with iStock contributor relations (who were extremely helpful), a problem with one of my release files has been resolved.  It stemmed from having prefilled the date on the signature line of the model release.  I would suggest to everyone who submits to iStock that you have the model/witness/etc hand-write the date next to their signature rather than pre-filling this information when you print the form.

Just thought this might be helpful, so I thought I would share.

« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2010, 12:11 »
I take it when you write "prefill" you mean dates were typed in? And that - all by itself - was a reason to reject?

I can't see any legal objection to a typed in date - any more than a date that is filled in by hand, but not by the model or witness themselves.

However, even if the rules are completely arbitrary and not required by any law anywhere, are they at least spelled out somewhere on iStock to make it clear we're not allowed to do this?

« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2010, 12:14 »
Nah, just a suggestion, apparently it caused some questions, and then a bunch of confusion ensued, and so things got more tangled that they should have been, so its easier just to skip the risk by filling in by hand, just saying.

I did get accused of fraud by one of the (anonymous) admins, but I'm trying to let that slide and be at peace since it has all been resolved now.

« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2010, 12:47 »
I can remember many times going into a bank or notary to sign some document for a mortgage or such thing and finding the forms with all the dates in place and just a spot to put my signature. Signing for some one else is fraud. Filling in a date for some one else is saving time. 

« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2010, 13:18 »
Well, the admin accused me of altering the dates on the release or generating a release in Photoshop, so I uploaded a new file with the release and closeups showing that the ink was soaked into the paper from the printing.  Whoever it was still wasn't convinced, which is when I had to get contributor relations more deeply involved.  By the way, I'd like to say again that the contributor relations folks were excellent in getting this all taken care of and resolved.

Maybe I should take it as a compliment that the admin thought my photoshopping skills were so bad ass that I was able to pull off faked ink soaking into the paper.

Anyways, I'm probably going to go back to my carbon copy forms that only have my info prefilled.  I've been shooting stock over six years and I've never had any troubles like this before.

« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2010, 17:48 »
so I uploaded a new file with the release and closeups showing that the ink was soaked into the paper from the printing.  Whoever it was still wasn't convinced,

Well sure, he probably noticed some fringing on the signature or perhaps noise in the ink shadows. What ever, he couldn't resist hitting the reject button.


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