Author Topic: Download Getty Images Moment and submit images to us from your smartphone! (Read 33450 times)

ShadySue · « **on:** February 27, 2014, 19:29 »

"
Hello!
We have some very exciting news to share with you. You have been selected by our content team to be part of the first group of contributors who are being invited to work with our Moment mobile app, a fast and easy new way to contribute more of your imagery to Getty Images using your smartphone.
Over the coming weeks and months we’ll continue to add more contributors to this process and eventually all contributors will be able to submit using Moment, but we’re kicking off with a small group (including you!) to help us get things started.

... ... ...

Moment editorial images will be placed in a new Moment RM Editorial collection on Gettyimages.com.

... "

Wowsers, I never thought I'd get the chance to submit RM Editorial on Getty.

But no, just like Alamy, I'm a second-class citizen with an Android phone (chosen because it was on the Getty approved mobile phone list!) and this new thing is for the iPhone. So I can't 'submit images to them from my smartphone'. Why didn't they just title it 'Submit images to us from your iPhone' and I could have avoided wasting time skimming the email.

Ho-hum.

landbysea · « **Reply #1 on:** February 27, 2014, 20:30 »

I thought they just somehow knew I have an iphone. Well they need some fishing photos so I will be happy to accommodate. I am down on the fishing pier three times a week anyway. I can handle "walking the dog" and "couch potato" also. "Gym bunny" not so much.

ShadySue · « **Reply #2 on:** February 27, 2014, 20:38 »

"By submitting your imagery through Moment, you agree that all of the terms of your Getty Images Contributor Agreement will apply to that imagery"
Hypothetically, is that 'my' iStock contract? (I got invited to submit to GI way back, RF of course, but didn't take it up, partly because the contract was many pages long and very complicated, I had no idea what I'd be signing, so I have no other Getty CA.)
So if you're on 30% or whatever, this content gets that rate?

wolfman · « **Reply #3 on:** February 27, 2014, 20:59 »

^ I'm pretty sure the entire Getty experience is at 20%....

Sean Locke Photography · « **Reply #4 on:** February 27, 2014, 21:06 »

Enjoy.

hatman12 · « **Reply #5 on:** February 27, 2014, 21:11 »

No, RM pays 30% as a base rate, 40% for 'home territory'. Only RF pays 20% at Getty.

polar · « **Reply #6 on:** February 28, 2014, 01:12 »

I got this email too. If they're sending it to me, they must be sending it to everyone because I'm the smallest of small players on IS.

I don't have an iPhone but I do have an iPod touch with a camera. AFAIK, you can download most iPhone apps to the iPod. Haven't had a chance to check this out yet. Anyone know offhand if it's possible to send them images from the iPod or is there some wrinkle that requires them to come from an iPhone?

Hobostocker · « **Reply #7 on:** February 28, 2014, 04:32 »

I wonder, is this mobile madness just filling up a new small niche or it's the beginning of THE END ?

What if buyers end up being too happy of all these cheap mobile snaps ? what if they see this cr-ap as "good enough" ?

bunhill · « **Reply #8 on:** February 28, 2014, 06:22 »

Quote from: ShadySue on February 27, 2014, 19:29

just like Alamy, I'm a second-class citizen with an Android phone (chosen because it was on the Getty approved mobile phone list!)

My total guess is that lack of Android support at this early stage is not so much about the actual camera since some of the Android cameras are obviously good. But the Getty app (like the Alamy app) is not a camera app. It's the upload interface.

I posted on the Stockimo thread about how developing for Android is potentially a much more squirly proposition. By being more customisable and less standards specific Android presents many more potential issues and complications for developers.

Just one example to provide some context: The developer needs to know where the pictures are. On an iPhone they are always in the same virtual place (the camera roll). On an Android phone they may be anywhere. Android complicates things by exposing a file system. Users may also potentially have added memory cards etc. That makes everything much more complicated from a developer perspective - not only additional functionality, but also validation, exception handling etc.

Ron · « **Reply #9 on:** February 28, 2014, 06:30 »

All the developer needs to do is to let the app ask the user to indicate where the photo is located. How hard can that be.

bunhill · « **Reply #10 on:** February 28, 2014, 06:32 »

Quote from: Hobostocker on February 28, 2014, 04:32

What if buyers end up being too happy of all these cheap mobile snaps ? what if they see this cr-ap as "good enough" ?

Have a look at the wonderful contemporary work on VSCO Grid. The vast majority is iPhone.

bunhill · « **Reply #11 on:** February 28, 2014, 06:44 »

Quote from: Ron on February 28, 2014, 06:30

All the developer needs to do is to let the app ask the user to indicate where the photo is located. How hard can that be.

Building for a device which exposes a file system effectively means building a completely different app IMO. It's not just about having to find a way to somehow squeeze that additional functionality onto your existing interface - it also introduces additional error checking, exception handling etc. It's not a small thing.

Then you have to go back and test that additional functionality. On every device which is potentially running Android. No doubt they will likely bring it to Android in time - all I am saying is that I can completely see why that is a much slower process.

hjalmeida · « **Reply #12 on:** February 28, 2014, 07:05 »

The app is only available to IOS but you can send photos from any camera.

ShadySue · « **Reply #13 on:** February 28, 2014, 07:13 »

Quote from: hjalmeida on February 28, 2014, 07:05

The app is only available to IOS but you can send photos from any camera.

How does that work?
I know I'm perfectly capable of getting my photos off my phone and upload to a website, but that's not what they're offering.

@Polar: I've just heard of an iS colleague with a reasonable sized port and has 'gold' sales who didn't get the invite, surprisingly. I have a high proportion of my iS port as editorial, don't know if that's the reason? Or maybe because I have two files marked 'mobilestock' (from the Samsung) on iS.

rckirk · « **Reply #14 on:** February 28, 2014, 07:32 »

Download photos to the iPhone's camera roll and then use the APP to upload. I originally thought they were only taking photos shot on the iPhone. After reviewing some accepted photos it became obvious to me they weren't shot with a telephone. I have since had images accepted that were shot with a DSLR.

ShadySue · « **Reply #15 on:** February 28, 2014, 07:57 »

Quote from: rckirk on February 28, 2014, 07:32

Download photos to the iPhone's camera roll and then use the APP to upload. I originally thought they were only taking photos shot on the iPhone. After reviewing some accepted photos it became obvious to me they weren't shot with a telephone. I have since had images accepted that were shot with a DSLR.

But presumably from what you've said, you'd still need an iPhone.
I have no intention to go out and buy an iPhone when I haven't even finished paying for my Samsung yet and am in a contract until November!

bunhill · « **Reply #16 on:** February 28, 2014, 08:02 »

The small collection so far is here.

Seems to me mostly iPhone sized pictures. Maybe DSLR pictures slipped through - or perhaps they are flexible sometimes given that it is about submitting to specific briefs.

It's a good idea IMO making it about specific briefs.

rckirk · « **Reply #17 on:** February 28, 2014, 08:25 »

Quote from: ShadySue on February 28, 2014, 07:57

Quote from: rckirk on February 28, 2014, 07:32
Download photos to the iPhone's camera roll and then use the APP to upload. I originally thought they were only taking photos shot on the iPhone. After reviewing some accepted photos it became obvious to me they weren't shot with a telephone. I have since had images accepted that were shot with a DSLR.

But presumably from what you've said, you'd still need an iPhone.
I have no intention to go out and buy an iPhone when I haven't even finished paying for my Samsung yet and am in a contract until November!

I have uploaded using both an iPhone and an iPad

ShadySue · « **Reply #18 on:** February 28, 2014, 08:42 »

Quote from: rckirk on February 28, 2014, 08:25

Quote from: ShadySue on February 28, 2014, 07:57
Quote from: rckirk on February 28, 2014, 07:32
Download photos to the iPhone's camera roll and then use the APP to upload. I originally thought they were only taking photos shot on the iPhone. After reviewing some accepted photos it became obvious to me they weren't shot with a telephone. I have since had images accepted that were shot with a DSLR.

But presumably from what you've said, you'd still need an iPhone.
I have no intention to go out and buy an iPhone when I haven't even finished paying for my Samsung yet and am in a contract until November!
I have uploaded using both an iPhone and an iPad

Well, yes, but I don't have i-anything.
It's moot anyway, I just wondered why I'd got the email (when at least one 'other' hasn't) and it was headed Smartphone when they only meant iPhone (or other i-devices).
I wonder why they don't just let you upload like you would a normal file?

Sean Locke Photography · « **Reply #19 on:** February 28, 2014, 09:49 »

Quote from: bunhill on February 28, 2014, 08:02

The small collection so far is here.

Seems to me mostly iPhone sized pictures. Maybe DSLR pictures slipped through - or perhaps they are flexible sometimes given that it is about submitting to specific briefs.

It's a good idea IMO making it about specific briefs.

Looks like it's all editorial walk around snapshots. About what I'd expect from a "phone collection".

Rage · « **Reply #20 on:** February 28, 2014, 12:13 »

Guess this is another i phone exclusive club for the moment. But it'll be fun to do once it comes for android

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Tiosabas · « **Reply #21 on:** March 02, 2014, 05:50 »

I see alot of images in the collection that were clearly shot with dslr+telephotos or wide aperture lenses. What is the point of it you can just upload anything you want as long as it is via the app? Surely it should be a condition that the images were shot with a mobile device?

Ron · « **Reply #22 on:** March 02, 2014, 06:25 »

Quote from: Tiosabas on March 02, 2014, 05:50

I see alot of images in the collection that were clearly shot with dslr+telephotos or wide aperture lenses. What is the point of it you can just upload anything you want as long as it is via the app? Surely it should be a condition that the images were shot with a mobile device?

Same thing happening in the Alamy mobile collection. Alamy dont care either. They refused to answer questions and then locked the thread.

Also the QC seems to be a lot more lenient towards mobile shots, which are sitting besides the normal images that go through QC and are submitted under strict conditions.

A lot of people feel disadvantaged, having to shoot with 5000 dollar equipment and images being scrutinised, whilst others can basically get all their crap images approved only because it came off a phone.

http://discussion.alamy.com/index.php?/topic/1991-stockimo-now-you-can-upload-photos-from-your-iphone-to-sell-on-here

rckirk · « **Reply #23 on:** March 02, 2014, 06:32 »

Submissions are made to very specific topics to fill editorial and creative needs in those areas so it really doesn't matter what kind of device is used. That's only my guess as to the thinking behind "Moment" (I may be wrong.) In other words, the emphasis is on filling current needs and not on the equipment used. I think this may be a significant part of the future of stock and editorial photography. For example, if there's a significant storm somewhere send out a request for photos to the large number of photographers you have enrolled in Moment and you are bound to get some excellent photos. In fact, that's what happened with the last large snow storm in the Northeast U.S.

Ron · « **Reply #24 on:** March 02, 2014, 07:00 »

It doesnt matter what device is used, what does matter is that different quality standards are applied.

rckirk · « **Reply #25 on:** March 02, 2014, 07:54 »

I don't know that Getty is requiring a higher level of quality for images submitted to Moment that are produced on a DSLR than those produced with an iPhone.

Ron · « **Reply #26 on:** March 02, 2014, 07:58 »

I was more talking about Stockimo from Alamy. Apologies for taking a side step.

ShadySue · « **Reply #27 on:** March 02, 2014, 08:14 »

Quote from: rckirk on March 02, 2014, 06:32

Submissions are made to very specific topics to fill editorial and creative needs in those areas so it really doesn't matter what kind of device is used. That's only my guess as to the thinking behind "Moment" (I may be wrong.) In other words, the emphasis is on filling current needs and not on the equipment used. I think this may be a significant part of the future of stock and editorial photography. For example, if there's a significant storm somewhere send out a request for photos to the large number of photographers you have enrolled in Moment and you are bound to get some excellent photos. In fact, that's what happened with the last large snow storm in the Northeast U.S.

As I don't have the App, I don't have access to the requests list.
Are the editorial requests for 'hot news' or secondary editorial which don't need to be uploaded instantaneously? If the former, fair enough, an app to get images up quickly is needed. If the latter, why not make the request more open, utilising normal upload channels?
BTW, I replied to the invitation email asking when this would be available to android users; but I should have asked the 'why not normal channels for secondary editorial?' question too.

rckirk · « **Reply #28 on:** March 02, 2014, 08:28 »

The editorial requests have been for both hot news and more general topics. For example, there was a request for photos of flooding in the U.K. during recent storms. A more general "unhot" editorial example is the request for unreleased photos of U.S. suburban homes. They are being classified as editorial.

ShadySue · « **Reply #29 on:** March 02, 2014, 08:36 »

Quote from: rckirk on March 02, 2014, 08:28

The editorial requests have been for both hot news and more general topics. For example, there was a request for photos of flooding in the U.K. during recent storms. A more general "unhot" editorial example is the request for unreleased photos of U.S. suburban homes. They are being classified as editorial.

Thanks, that is secondary editorial, but why can't they be taken with any device and uploaded via the usual channels? (I'm not expecting 'you' to answer, btw!)
Wonder what's wrong with these results?:
http://www.istockphoto.com/search/text/USA%20%22residential%20area%22/filetypes/photos,illustrations,video/source/basic#101c38da

rckirk · « **Reply #30 on:** March 02, 2014, 09:01 »

They could and still do use regular channels but I think they must view this another use of current technology. It sure grabs my attention when I get a push notification on my phone that Getty is looking for a certain type of image. I just don't go to their normal "needs lists" very often. Also, a lot of their requests are time limited, e.g. Mardi Gras or Carnival images.

Sean Locke Photography · « **Reply #31 on:** March 02, 2014, 10:30 »

From the Alamy follow up blog:
"Customers have been asking for images shot on mobiles, as a provider of imagery we are reacting to that need."

Really? Customers have specifically just said "We need images shot on a mobile phone"? Just that? Why would they say just that?

Uncle Pete · « **Reply #32 on:** March 02, 2014, 11:17 »

Good way to get designated images. Hey isn't that what Scoopshot was doing? They would say what's needed and people would go out and shoot it, or send up what they had?

Quote from: rckirk on March 02, 2014, 09:01

They could and still do use regular channels but I think they must view this another use of current technology. It sure grabs my attention when I get a push notification on my phone that Getty is looking for a certain type of image. I just don't go to their normal "needs lists" very often. Also, a lot of their requests are time limited, e.g. Mardi Gras or Carnival images.

Alamy is jumping in and it's the wave for this year. Clashot, FOAP. Everyone wants to have phone photos. "this too shall pass"

Getty wants a piece of that pie.

Just to make this clear, and not misrepresented (which someone claims) as Alamy Locked The Thread asking about cameras and devices: Here's what they actually said...

Quote

Off topic paranoia = we're closing this one down folks, sorry.

Regarding the original question, you technically can upload from an iPad as the app is compatible with it.

Cheers

Alamy

Because the discussion had gone into red flags and accusing Alamy of the one marking messages down. Not because of questions about cameras and devices.

Blog answer: "iPhone photos only please

We’ve seen some images coming through via Stockimo that aren’t shot on phones. We set up Stockimo to source and collect iPhone photos so we’ll be rejecting pictures that aren’t shot on a phone. Sorry, but if we are to package and promote the collection as shot on phones we need to be confident about the product."

And: "Creative or Editorial?

Stockimo is for users to ‘Cash in on their creativity’ we want cool, creative photos, shot with the more conceptual requirements of design and advertising in mind. However we will also shortly be adding a feature where users can submit News pictures via the app. So if your images are more Editorial in nature you may want to hold off for that feature."

I will admit that Alamy has not given clear standards or indications of much of this, and mixed messages. People are getting things accepted from iPads, 3Gs, 4, 4s and 5.

But they locked the thread because it had gone off track into arguing about Red Flags. Not cameras or devices.

ps No Android App. just like Getty. Only the chosen ones can upload at this point.

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