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Title: Downloads for February already online, still waiting for earnings
Post by: Dumc on March 18, 2019, 22:29
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Title: Re: Downloads for February already online, still waiting for earnings
Post by: davidbautista on March 18, 2019, 22:48
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Lots of istock credits! Good. (waiting to see the pennies )

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Title: Re: Downloads for February already online, still waiting for earnings
Post by: ShadySue on March 19, 2019, 04:39
I don't see any content in the OP's post, also February's downloads aren't currently online for me, nor is my Profile page frozen while the update process takes place, nor is there any mention of them being available in their forum, nor in two independent forums I'm on.

Tomorrow is 20.
Title: Re: Downloads for February already online, still waiting for earnings
Post by: Not Today on March 19, 2019, 04:57
I don't see any content in the OP's post, also February's downloads aren't currently online for me, nor is my Profile page frozen while the update process takes place, nor is there any mention of them being available in their forum, nor in two independent forums I'm on.

Tomorrow is 20.

I can also see number of downloads for February under ESP>my performance>content statistics>downloads>feb 2019
Available on the phone app as well.

twice as many as January, but could end up with less royalties if they all sold for pennies.
Title: Re: Downloads for February already online, still waiting for earnings
Post by: Pauws99 on March 19, 2019, 05:05
Mine are there similar no to January...whether that translates into more less or the same earnings is a guess of course.
Title: Re: Downloads for February already online, still waiting for earnings
Post by: ShadySue on March 19, 2019, 06:49
I don't see any content in the OP's post, also February's downloads aren't currently online for me, nor is my Profile page frozen while the update process takes place, nor is there any mention of them being available in their forum, nor in two independent forums I'm on.

Tomorrow is 20.

I can also see number of downloads for February under ESP>my performance>content statistics>downloads>feb 2019
Available on the phone app as well.

twice as many as January, but could end up with less royalties if they all sold for pennies.

Och, that!
Well, yes but I don't see much point in knowing my dls without the royalties, so I ususally disregard that.
Also, it seems to report different sales differently, meaning some files are showing as having multiple sales, but some are shown as having one sale, but several times down the list. That's not very useful, IMO.

But now, having looked, I'm up on Jan for dls, but like you say, who knows? My $$ are shakily dependent on getting large Getty sales, which (for me) don't come every month.
Title: Re: Downloads for February already online, still waiting for earnings
Post by: Uncle Pete on March 19, 2019, 08:59
I don't see any content in the OP's post, also February's downloads aren't currently online for me, nor is my Profile page frozen while the update process takes place, nor is there any mention of them being available in their forum, nor in two independent forums I'm on.

Tomorrow is 20.

Just looked, still showing January for me, no data to download.
Title: Re: Downloads for February already online, still waiting for earnings
Post by: davidbautista on March 19, 2019, 10:11
Probably tonight in America is going to be released the actual money

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Title: Re: Downloads for February already online, still waiting for earnings
Post by: Dumc on March 19, 2019, 10:40
I don't see any content in the OP's post, also February's downloads aren't currently online for me, nor is my Profile page frozen while the update process takes place, nor is there any mention of them being available in their forum, nor in two independent forums I'm on.

Tomorrow is 20.

What are you trying to say? We've been paid numerous times before 20, and also after 20. So this date doesn't actually means anything. Basically, we get results around that date, sometimes before, sometimes after.
Title: Re: Downloads for February already online, still waiting for earnings
Post by: ShadySue on March 19, 2019, 10:51
I don't see any content in the OP's post, also February's downloads aren't currently online for me, nor is my Profile page frozen while the update process takes place, nor is there any mention of them being available in their forum, nor in two independent forums I'm on.

Tomorrow is 20.

What are you trying to say? We've been paid numerous times before 20, and also after 20. So this date doesn't actually means anything. Basically, we get results around that date, sometimes before, sometimes after.

As all you  had was a title, it looked like you were complaining because you had downloads but no earnings reported.
Indeed, we have had results before the 20th, and recently we tend to have been paid before the 26th.
Maybe (?) it depends on how the dates relate to the weekend.
Title: Re: Downloads for February already online, still waiting for earnings
Post by: davidbautista on March 19, 2019, 11:01
Most of the time is the day 20.

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Title: Re: Downloads for February already online, still waiting for earnings
Post by: Dumc on March 19, 2019, 11:04
I didn't say anything in the post because I thought title was self-explainatory. Anyway, personally I think  that date of results more depends on the position of the moon than anything else.

But it's interesting that downloads number are online before earnings, usually it's the opposite.

P.S. Number of downloads for me is higher than January, but as you and others said, it all depends on those big sales.
Title: Re: Downloads for February already online, still waiting for earnings
Post by: davidbautista on March 19, 2019, 11:06
Have you seen if Getty (for example premium access) and credits are related to more value in comparison with "istock subs"?

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Title: Re: Downloads for February already online, still waiting for earnings
Post by: PhotoBomb on March 19, 2019, 11:08
ESP has been down for me for two days :-\
Title: Re: Downloads for February already online, still waiting for earnings
Post by: Pauws99 on March 19, 2019, 11:08
"But it's interesting that downloads number are online before earnings, usually it's the opposite."

You really need to get out more as they say ;-). and yes I appreciate the irony that I'm taking the time to comment!
Title: Re: Downloads for February already online, still waiting for earnings
Post by: ShadySue on March 19, 2019, 11:17
Have you seen if Getty (for example premium access) and credits are related to more value in comparison with "istock subs"?

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IME, premium access sales are usually, but not quite always, much lower than subs. Often these are 'premium access, time limited' where the time can be really short, I've read as low as four hours, but I can't see that anywhere other than someone saying it on here a while back. I can't find any way to check out the terms for PA other than by signing up for them.
Title: Re: Downloads for February already online, still waiting for earnings
Post by: davidbautista on March 19, 2019, 11:20
Have you seen if Getty (for example premium access) and credits are related to more value in comparison with "istock subs"?

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IME, premium access sales are usually, but not quite always, much lower than subs. Often these are 'premium access, time limited' where the time can be really short, I've read as low as four hours, but I can't see that anywhere other than someone saying it on here a while back. I can't find any way to check out the terms for PA other than by signing up for them.
Indeed. It can be or Getty connect with horrible pennies or an actual Getty big sale... Anyway, this is all speculation until the actual earning summary is available

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Title: Re: Downloads for February already online, still waiting for earnings
Post by: Dumc on March 19, 2019, 12:27
Data is loading over here...
Title: Re: Downloads for February already online, still waiting for earnings
Post by: ShadySue on March 19, 2019, 12:29
Data is loading over here...
Woo hoo!
Surprise or disappointment?  Good luck, everyone.
Title: Re: Downloads for February already online, still waiting for earnings
Post by: Dumc on March 19, 2019, 12:38
Don't know yet, I'll let you know.
Title: Re: Downloads for February already online, still waiting for earnings
Post by: davidbautista on March 19, 2019, 12:40
Loading here too.

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Title: Re: Downloads for February already online, still waiting for earnings
Post by: Pauws99 on March 19, 2019, 12:55
You'd think they'd at least do a live cam of the actual hamster on the wheel.....or is it an octopus picking random numbers?
Title: Re: Downloads for February already online, still waiting for earnings
Post by: Dumc on March 19, 2019, 13:11
This whole topic sounds like, we're waiting for lottery to begin and to watch it.
Title: Re: Downloads for February already online, still waiting for earnings
Post by: Dumc on March 19, 2019, 14:07
Disaster.
Title: Re: Downloads for February already online, still waiting for earnings
Post by: davidbautista on March 19, 2019, 14:10
BME :D
Title: Re: Downloads for February already online, still waiting for earnings
Post by: tätarätä on March 19, 2019, 14:18
very bad month  :'(
Title: Re: Downloads for February already online, still waiting for earnings
Post by: Not Today on March 19, 2019, 14:20
This whole topic sounds like, we're waiting for lottery to begin and to watch it.

Didn't win the lottery, I'll get another ticket next month.
Title: Re: Downloads for February already online, still waiting for earnings
Post by: ShadySue on March 19, 2019, 14:22
One really good sale via Getty (editorial) meant it was only my fourth-worst Feb ever, and better than ten months of last year.
So, for recent years, not too bad, also that sale made my rpd ($2.31) better than for a while.
Compared to Jan: +53%
Compared to Feb 2018: +56%
Compared to my best Feb ever (2013): -61.5%
Oh well, it is what it is. Just hoping for the random lottery large Getty sales.
Without that huge sale, it would have been my new 'worst month since Sept 2007'.
Title: Re: Downloads for February already online, still waiting for earnings
Post by: jonbull on March 19, 2019, 14:33
35% more download 55% less earning thanks to a whopping 0,32 cent rpd

Title: Re: Downloads for February already online, still waiting for earnings
Post by: davidbautista on March 19, 2019, 14:41
This month RPD: 0.72. Overall RPD: 0.5

RPD per type of download:

Premium Access Time Limited --> 0.53
iStock Subscription --> 0.34
Credit Pack --> 1.32
Video --> 2.00

Conclusion: iStock has better subs value than SS (in my caste SS is 0.25) but... SS has for me a better RPD because of random big sales (EL, SOD...). Also, credit packs usually give me more than the subs or getty sales, but they happen less often.
My biggest sale in iStock has been like 3.4 for a picture... Never had any better sales. In SS I have had 20, 30... Have you ever had a big sale in iStock?? Do they exist?

Title: Re: Downloads for February already online, still waiting for earnings
Post by: jonbull on March 19, 2019, 14:49
https://contributors.gettyimages.com/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=11071#post122271

interesting to see the forum off getty exclusive mostly...rpd for medium to big producer and seller not people who have 20 30 download months,, is falling down for most contributor. the problem in my opinion is that soon most of those exclusive will quit their exclusivity and spread another millions of good images mostly in ss and fotolia. persona
Title: Re: Downloads for February already online, still waiting for earnings
Post by: jonbull on March 19, 2019, 14:57
the funny part is that stock sales red is still bad but much higher than credit sales from getty...the there is partner portal...what a crap is this....then all the connect crap....this company is a big giant crap holes...my dream is they go bankrupt soon but then all exclusive will come to ss and i don't want think the disaster of another 20 30 millions files flowing....since the closing of think stock everything has fallen down , at least 0,28 are sure...now 1 cent for view in connect...ahaha....everything getty touch is becoming a giant crap...canva is another think stock. stopping any serious upload. i don't cancel only to collect at least something every months. but they won't see another photo from e.
Title: Re: Downloads for February already online, still waiting for earnings
Post by: akaza on March 19, 2019, 15:30
similar to January earning, which means good  :)
Title: Re: Downloads for February already online, still waiting for earnings
Post by: HalfFull on March 19, 2019, 17:13
Good month, well above last January, only about $50 down from last month.
Title: Re: Downloads for February already online, still waiting for earnings
Post by: Pauws99 on March 19, 2019, 18:35
Marginally down on last year which considering last year was a good month and how slack and lazy I've become actually a decent result.
Title: Re: Downloads for February already online, still waiting for earnings
Post by: christiano on March 19, 2019, 19:40
not bad, my best month so fare, i had a big getty sales of 350$... my com : 52$. 70$ CAD! That sale save my month!
on the other hand, a dozen sales at $ 0.04
My Dow.year Rate to date shows a great increase for the month of March, which will be my best month in volume until now ...

Title: Re: Downloads for February already online, still waiting for earnings
Post by: davidbautista on March 19, 2019, 19:50
not bad, my best month so fare, i had a big getty sales of 350$... my com : 52$. 70$ CAD!
on the other hand, a dozen sales at $ 0.04
My Dow.year Rate to date shows a great increase for the month of March, which will be my best month in volume until now ...
Mega congrats!

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Title: Re: Downloads for February already online, still waiting for earnings
Post by: christiano on March 19, 2019, 20:17
not bad, my best month so fare, i had a big getty sales of 350$... my com : 52$. 70$ CAD!
on the other hand, a dozen sales at $ 0.04
My Dow.year Rate to date shows a great increase for the month of March, which will be my best month in volume until now ...
Mega congrats!

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Thanks!
Title: Re: Downloads for February already online, still waiting for earnings
Post by: Artist on March 19, 2019, 21:59
Not a good month here..
Title: Re: Downloads for February already online, still waiting for earnings
Post by: Fairplay on March 20, 2019, 03:22
Very disappointing month, much more sales (+70) but almost the same earnings (+$6) compared to January 2019.
My RPD on Getty ($0.55) is much lower than on SS ($0.69).
Many $0.15 Canva sales.
Title: Re: Downloads for February already online, still waiting for earnings
Post by: PrincessFerf on March 20, 2019, 10:56
Considering I'm still in my first year and my portfolio is still quite small, I was excited to see numerous actual sales. 

I was disappointed to see the actual amount per sale.  $.19, $.18 and even one for $.03.  Sheesh, it costs me more than $.03 to fart. 

TBH, I'm making more money on Dreamstime than on iStock. 
Title: Re: Downloads for February already online, still waiting for earnings
Post by: Dumc on March 20, 2019, 13:07
I had 25 sales more, than in January, but earned 13$ less.
Title: Re: Downloads for February already online, still waiting for earnings
Post by: voidframes on March 20, 2019, 13:42
Had 40% more sales than previous month but earned $5 less.
RPD down to 0.45

A video for $0.63 while I sold the same in SS for $23.

Should I laugh or cry ?
Title: Re: Downloads for February already online, still waiting for earnings
Post by: Video1977 on March 20, 2019, 13:59
Had 40% more sales than previous month but earned $5 less.
RPD down to 0.45

A video for $0.63 while I sold the same in SS for $23.

Should I laugh or cry ?

It is also my case and I do not understand it. Why there are video sales for 20 dollars and also for 0.6 cents? What is the difference? The size of the video? The market from where they buy it? I do not get it. Could someone explain this?
Title: Re: Downloads for February already online, still waiting for earnings
Post by: voidframes on March 20, 2019, 14:31
Had 40% more sales than previous month but earned $5 less.
RPD down to 0.45

A video for $0.63 while I sold the same in SS for $23.

Should I laugh or cry ?

It is also my case and I do not understand it. Why there are video sales for 20 dollars and also for 0.6 cents? What is the difference? The size of the clip? The market from where they buy it? I do not get it. Could someone explain this?




Exactly, same question here.
In IS our cut is 20% that is $0.63 so the 100% will be $3.15.
In SS our cut is 30% but they sell it at minimum $65. If both sites selling same size clip at this price, why would a client even buy it in SS while he can save 95% in IS.
If not, what is the size of the video ?

P.S - I sell a few for $1.50 in SS yet it's better than $0.63 ;)
Title: Re: Downloads for February already online, still waiting for earnings
Post by: jonbull on March 21, 2019, 11:24
lot of partner portal sale for 0,18...i imagine those are sells from the canvas deal? so now we have zero sale in canvas for 0,35 and a lot for 0,18!! that's great!!

everything getty touch become crap...they are a modern reverse re mida
Title: Re: Downloads for February already online, still waiting for earnings
Post by: YadaYadaYada on March 25, 2019, 07:39
Not a good month here..

Not here either. I see the poll here SS has been dropping but is higher then IS exclusive now. Are more leaving or did the Exclusive income drop?
Title: Re: Downloads for February already online, still waiting for earnings
Post by: ShadySue on March 25, 2019, 09:46
Not a good month here..

Not here either. I see the poll here SS has been dropping but is higher then IS exclusive now. Are more leaving or did the Exclusive income drop?

I suspect very few exclusives (probably fewer than 5) report now, and I'm pretty much a bottom feeder these days (since subs, PA etc.)
Title: Re: Downloads for February already online, still waiting for earnings
Post by: ThinkingLouder on March 25, 2019, 10:45
Considering I'm still in my first year and my portfolio is still quite small, I was excited to see numerous actual sales. 

I was disappointed to see the actual amount per sale.  $.19, $.18 and even one for $.03.  Sheesh, it costs me more than $.03 to fart. 

TBH, I'm making more money on Dreamstime than on iStock.

Looks that they cook the contributor earnings with the so called "we can not display real time sells, we need to calculate it (cook) till the next month"
Title: Re: Downloads for February already online, still waiting for earnings
Post by: YadaYadaYada on March 25, 2019, 22:41
Not a good month here..

Not here either. I see the poll here SS has been dropping but is higher then IS exclusive now. Are more leaving or did the Exclusive income drop?

I suspect very few exclusives (probably fewer than 5) report now, and I'm pretty much a bottom feeder these days (since subs, PA etc.)

Good thought maybe Leaf can tell us.
Title: Re: Downloads for February already online, still waiting for earnings
Post by: tickstock on March 25, 2019, 22:56
Not a good month here..

Not here either. I see the poll here SS has been dropping but is higher then IS exclusive now. Are more leaving or did the Exclusive income drop?

I suspect very few exclusives (probably fewer than 5) report now, and I'm pretty much a bottom feeder these days (since subs, PA etc.)

Good thought maybe Leaf can tell us.
I think exclusive numbers only count if that's the only entry.  If you have RM at Alamy or video anywhere else your earnings get reported as nonexclusive.
Title: Re: Downloads for February already online, still waiting for earnings
Post by: ShadySue on March 26, 2019, 04:35
I think exclusive numbers only count if that's the only entry.  If you have RM at Alamy or video anywhere else your earnings get reported as nonexclusive.
That's true, I don't report Alamy for that reason, but I believe others do.
Which make the iS indie score all the more shocking, as that presumably includes some exclusive reports.
Title: Re: Downloads for February already online, still waiting for earnings
Post by: Uncle Pete on March 26, 2019, 07:46
Data is loading over here...
Woo hoo!
Surprise or disappointment?  Good luck, everyone.

Worst Ever. RPD has been dropping and now at .41, time for me to collect and request close in October, so downloads will have time to clear accounting. Why does this remind me of last year? Why didn't I do that?  :-[  Oh yeah, free money.

Not going to hurt me like it might others, but for what I get, the whole let it ride, take the money, is getting to be a pathetic scheme to observe from month to month.

Reminder, best plan is leave images up and ignore, take the money for doing nothing. Except I flip flop when I see the amounts and the RPD.  ::)

Expect that next month I'll get a couple good licenses and decide to stay and do nothing. I think it's down to, do I want the piddling income and torture or just say farewell?

I will say, no .04 downloads this month. One for 12¢ and one for 10¢ whoopee! Worst of anywhere.
Title: Re: Downloads for February already online, still waiting for earnings
Post by: leaf on March 26, 2019, 09:22
Not a good month here..

Not here either. I see the poll here SS has been dropping but is higher then IS exclusive now. Are more leaving or did the Exclusive income drop?

I suspect very few exclusives (probably fewer than 5) report now, and I'm pretty much a bottom feeder these days (since subs, PA etc.)

Good thought maybe Leaf can tell us.
I think exclusive numbers only count if that's the only entry.  If you have RM at Alamy or video anywhere else your earnings get reported as nonexclusive.

That's right.  It is only exclusive for people who only vote for iStock.  it's not a perfect system, I know... and yes - there are probably very very few people who vote as an exclusive.
Title: Re: Downloads for February already online, still waiting for earnings
Post by: StanRohrer on March 26, 2019, 10:51
I am RF Exclusive at iS but also report Alamy RM. So my numbers may not be helping the iS Exclusive counts over to the right.

On another note, I didn't reach iS payout for January. (There were months back about 2010 where I was getting between $1500 and $2000 some months). February just came roaring back (ha!) to be about triple my ugly January (met payout with Jan included in the account - but still not great for today). So my very aged portfolio (since 2003) is struggling but still buying a few Cokes and hamburgers for this month.
ETA: fix monthly $ - too many zeros.
Title: Re: Downloads for February already online, still waiting for earnings
Post by: YadaYadaYada on March 27, 2019, 10:08
Not a good month here..

Not here either. I see the poll here SS has been dropping but is higher then IS exclusive now. Are more leaving or did the Exclusive income drop?

I suspect very few exclusives (probably fewer than 5) report now, and I'm pretty much a bottom feeder these days (since subs, PA etc.)

Good thought maybe Leaf can tell us.
I think exclusive numbers only count if that's the only entry.  If you have RM at Alamy or video anywhere else your earnings get reported as nonexclusive.

That's right.  It is only exclusive for people who only vote for iStock.  it's not a perfect system, I know... and yes - there are probably very very few people who vote as an exclusive.

Could you add iStock exclusive as one agency and make better results? Or would that drop down to the low earners because not enough votes.