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« Reply #25 on: April 21, 2021, 17:43 »
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I just got the separate remittance but no per image info available yet. About the same as last month...just a few $ more.

Same - except a few pennies less.


« Reply #26 on: April 21, 2021, 17:49 »
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Hard to believe all other agencies can tell me instantly what I have sold but iStock/Getty - with decades of experience - is not able to issue a monthly statement.

iStock used to report in real time. And with lots more sales in those days, it was really fun!

I once tried to explain this to a friend: so the agency is called iStock but it's actually owned by Getty, but you have to use Deepmeta to upload, but your keywords ain't valid unless you choose what you meant, your images are sold on iStock but also on Getty, but actually not, but actually yes and you use completely other site called ESP to check your earnings and upload status but you can't check your earning because they are published only once a month every 20th but are actually almost never out straight on 20th...

ShadySue

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« Reply #27 on: April 21, 2021, 18:51 »
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I just got the separate remittance but no per image info available yet. About the same as last month...just a few $ more.

I'm well up on last month, and above the last two Marches (I must have got a 'jackpot' sale) but of course the month's earning is well below my previous weekly average from the GoDs. "It is what it is".  ::)

To be fair, the money hit Paypal yesterday (BST) the 21st, and their target date is 24th.
« Last Edit: April 21, 2021, 19:38 by ShadySue »

« Reply #28 on: April 22, 2021, 00:28 »
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So much excitement over receiving pennies  ;D

I care little for pennies, but I am rather excited about the few hundred bucks I usually make on Istock.  ::)


This constant looking down on contributors who decide to submit to an agency where they make decent money, but you aren't is getting a bit tiresome. iStock isn't working out for you? Well, sucks. But to some people it's one of their top earners and to some, like myself, it is actually not just pocket change, but money that makes a big contribution to, for example, paying their rent.
I am not going around making fun of contributors for submitting to Pond5 or Alamy or being excited about their earnings there, just because these agencies aren't eaning me any noteworthy amount of money. I understand that, what works for them, might not work for me and the other way around.
If you make fun of people for being excited about "earning pennies" just because that's all you earn  there and automatically assume it must be the same for everyone else, the joke is really on you.


I don't earn pennies on isuck because I ditched them years ago when they introduced their exciting news in 2017  ;D

Then why the spiteful remark about people who are excited about their earnings? Makes you sound like you see that others still make good money with an agency you ditched and now are bitter about losing out on money.





I got my iStock payment this morning by the way, even though the sales report still isn't there for me.  :o

« Reply #29 on: April 22, 2021, 01:19 »
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20% up from last year and about the same as two years ago. I'll take it, hopefully we've rebounded.

SpaceStockFootage

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« Reply #30 on: April 22, 2021, 03:15 »
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BME... which is not a term I've had the pleasure of using for a while! Have been uploading more than usual in the last 6 months or so, but still... 30% up on my last BME. Won't be surprised if next worth is my WME though... I get quite a few ups and downs there. 

« Reply #31 on: April 22, 2021, 03:28 »
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Earnings data is back. But I earned $55 for February, not sure if I will be happy or is this a bug. The last time I earned over 50$ in one month was probably 10 years ago.

« Reply #32 on: April 22, 2021, 03:46 »
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Am I remembering correctly that March is the month where they do a huge Connect report, where more or less every one of our images has sold for a fraction of a cent - even though there are also some Connect reports monthly.
It's all smoke and mirrors.  ::)

Not if my download numbers are anything to go by.

You were right - I had 16000 Connect sales reported.

« Reply #33 on: April 22, 2021, 04:39 »
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So much excitement over receiving pennies  ;D

I care little for pennies, but I am rather excited about the few hundred bucks I usually make on Istock.  ::)


This constant looking down on contributors who decide to submit to an agency where they make decent money, but you aren't is getting a bit tiresome. iStock isn't working out for you? Well, sucks. But to some people it's one of their top earners and to some, like myself, it is actually not just pocket change, but money that makes a big contribution to, for example, paying their rent.
I am not going around making fun of contributors for submitting to Pond5 or Alamy or being excited about their earnings there, just because these agencies aren't eaning me any noteworthy amount of money. I understand that, what works for them, might not work for me and the other way around.
If you make fun of people for being excited about "earning pennies" just because that's all you earn  there and automatically assume it must be the same for everyone else, the joke is really on you.


I don't earn pennies on isuck because I ditched them years ago when they introduced their exciting news in 2017  ;D

Then why the spiteful remark about people who are excited about their earnings? Makes you sound like you see that others still make good money with an agency you ditched and now are bitter about losing out on money.


 ;D  Bitter? Why no. Because some people made a stand against this agency crap of pennies and sub pennies unlike some others who help support the abuse, reduction in earnings and then have the temerity to crow about how great it is ::)




« Reply #34 on: April 22, 2021, 04:49 »
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I earned $44 in March which was down from $65 in February.

RPD between $0.48 and $0.66 so far this year.

ShadySue

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« Reply #35 on: April 22, 2021, 04:59 »
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;D  Bitter? Why no. Because some people made a stand against this agency crap of pennies and sub pennies unlike some others who help support the abuse, reduction in earnings and then have the temerity to crow about how great it is ::)
Where are you submitting now?

« Reply #36 on: April 22, 2021, 05:20 »
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;D  Bitter? Why no. Because some people made a stand against this agency crap of pennies and sub pennies unlike some others who help support the abuse, reduction in earnings and then have the temerity to crow about how great it is ::)
Where are you submitting now?

Not istock, not shitterstock, not 123rf, not Envato, not Bigstock, and not Deposit photos

Compared to 12 years ago when I submitted to 16 agencies I only submit to four now. 

Some like Veer and GL died an un-natural death of their own accord  ;D



« Reply #37 on: April 22, 2021, 05:28 »
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;D  Bitter? Why no. Because some people made a stand against this agency crap of pennies and sub pennies unlike some others who help support the abuse, reduction in earnings and then have the temerity to crow about how great it is ::)
Where are you submitting now?

Not istock, not shitterstock, not 123rf, not Envato, not Bigstock, and not Deposit photos

Compared to 12 years ago when I submitted to 16 agencies I only submit to four now. 

Some like Veer and GL died an un-natural death of their own accord  ;D

with this track, you will soon quit the remaining 4.

« Reply #38 on: April 22, 2021, 07:01 »
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So much excitement over receiving pennies  ;D

I care little for pennies, but I am rather excited about the few hundred bucks I usually make on Istock.  ::)


This constant looking down on contributors who decide to submit to an agency where they make decent money, but you aren't is getting a bit tiresome. iStock isn't working out for you? Well, sucks. But to some people it's one of their top earners and to some, like myself, it is actually not just pocket change, but money that makes a big contribution to, for example, paying their rent.
I am not going around making fun of contributors for submitting to Pond5 or Alamy or being excited about their earnings there, just because these agencies aren't eaning me any noteworthy amount of money. I understand that, what works for them, might not work for me and the other way around.
If you make fun of people for being excited about "earning pennies" just because that's all you earn  there and automatically assume it must be the same for everyone else, the joke is really on you.


I don't earn pennies on isuck because I ditched them years ago when they introduced their exciting news in 2017  ;D

Then why the spiteful remark about people who are excited about their earnings? Makes you sound like you see that others still make good money with an agency you ditched and now are bitter about losing out on money.


 ;D  Bitter? Why no. Because some people made a stand against this agency crap of pennies and sub pennies unlike some others who help support the abuse, reduction in earnings and then have the temerity to crow about how great it is ::)

It's great that you were in a position to make a stand against agencies whos policies you don't agree with. But please don't look down on others who aren't in such a  position and don't expect of them to fight your fight.
 As I said above, for me iStock is helping me paying my rent. I am not in a position where I can just say "oh, I will ditch iStock or Shutterstock because they are hurting my pride", because then I am losing a great part of my income and actually won't be able to pay my rent.
So, to those people who just do this for fun or make such great amounts of money from Microstock that ditching 12 agencies doesn't hurt their livelihood, that's great! But many people are not in such a position. I am certainly not.

« Reply #39 on: April 22, 2021, 10:11 »
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So much excitement over receiving pennies  ;D

I care little for pennies, but I am rather excited about the few hundred bucks I usually make on Istock.  ::)


This constant looking down on contributors who decide to submit to an agency where they make decent money, but you aren't is getting a bit tiresome. iStock isn't working out for you? Well, sucks. But to some people it's one of their top earners and to some, like myself, it is actually not just pocket change, but money that makes a big contribution to, for example, paying their rent.
I am not going around making fun of contributors for submitting to Pond5 or Alamy or being excited about their earnings there, just because these agencies aren't eaning me any noteworthy amount of money. I understand that, what works for them, might not work for me and the other way around.
If you make fun of people for being excited about "earning pennies" just because that's all you earn  there and automatically assume it must be the same for everyone else, the joke is really on you.


I don't earn pennies on isuck because I ditched them years ago when they introduced their exciting news in 2017  ;D

Then why the spiteful remark about people who are excited about their earnings? Makes you sound like you see that others still make good money with an agency you ditched and now are bitter about losing out on money.


 ;D  Bitter? Why no. Because some people made a stand against this agency crap of pennies and sub pennies unlike some others who help support the abuse, reduction in earnings and then have the temerity to crow about how great it is ::)

It's great that you were in a position to make a stand against agencies whos policies you don't agree with. But please don't look down on others who aren't in such a  position and don't expect of them to fight your fight.
 As I said above, for me iStock is helping me paying my rent. I am not in a position where I can just say "oh, I will ditch iStock or Shutterstock because they are hurting my pride", because then I am losing a great part of my income and actually won't be able to pay my rent.
So, to those people who just do this for fun or make such great amounts of money from Microstock that ditching 12 agencies doesn't hurt their livelihood, that's great! But many people are not in such a position. I am certainly not.

Yeah I use my stock earning to pay the rent and buy food to so don't assume I'm some dilletant using the cash to buy geegaws.

I used the money caring for my house bound dying mother for two years until she died in 2020.

Ditching those scumbag agencies only resulted in a drop of $1000 per year and earnings are stable to this day as I invested more time in Rights Managed and uploading to better agencies.

"don't expect of them to fight your fight." I don't expect anyone to fight my fights but I would have thought it was in everyones interest for everyone to fight the good fight"

I dropped those agencies in support of everyone just like we did with Dollar Photo Club.

But hey ho here we are with all the big agencies dicking contributors and it will carry on until there is no rent money

« Last Edit: April 22, 2021, 10:13 by Bad Robot »

« Reply #40 on: April 22, 2021, 10:31 »
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;D  Bitter? Why no. Because some people made a stand against this agency crap of pennies and sub pennies unlike some others who help support the abuse, reduction in earnings and then have the temerity to crow about how great it is ::)
Where are you submitting now?

Not istock, not shitterstock, not 123rf, not Envato, not Bigstock, and not Deposit photos

Compared to 12 years ago when I submitted to 16 agencies I only submit to four now. 

Some like Veer and GL died an un-natural death of their own accord  ;D

with this track, you will soon quit the remaining 4.

You are probably right :(

« Reply #41 on: April 22, 2021, 10:41 »
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Strong month, about four times more than SS (with a bit bigger portfolio).
I see a rising trend constantly, probably thanks to new uploads. Most importantly it drives my will to upload.

Uncle Pete

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« Reply #42 on: April 22, 2021, 12:14 »
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Hard to believe all other agencies can tell me instantly what I have sold but iStock/Getty - with decades of experience - is not able to issue a monthly statement.

iStock used to report in real time. And with lots more sales in those days, it was really fun!

I once tried to explain this to a friend: so the agency is called iStock but it's actually owned by Getty, but you have to use Deepmeta to upload, but your keywords ain't valid unless you choose what you meant, your images are sold on iStock but also on Getty, but actually not, but actually yes and you use completely other site called ESP to check your earnings and upload status but you can't check your earning because they are published only once a month every 20th but are actually almost never out straight on 20th...

Very nice, I'll add a little?

For fairness you can also upload using another outside developed software, that also does stats. qhero.com
ESP says Getty | ESP but I still like your explanation.

I think part of the delay in reporting is the shared revenue from a subscription purchase. Which can't be calculated until the month is up. Example (If I'm remembering right? Anyone feel free to correct or adjust.) Example: Someone pays iStock $10 for 10 downloads a month. If they take all ten, each person (non-exclusive) gets their 15 cents from each dollar. Someone else  pays $10 for 10 downloads and only takes 5 images, we would get 30c for each of those downloads. So there's no way for iStock to know how much to pay us, until after the contract limits for that month are known.

Now why they take so long to calculate, after that, is some kind of computer math and accounting problem?  ;D

March Mine: 1.84 USD, 8 photos sold, 0.23 average Pay rent, surely you jest. I can buy a bottle of soda pop with that.

Please, it's a personal problem?  ;)

Connect = 976 for $4.22823 and average .0043322 per sale. It takes 1,000 downloads to make a little over $4. If that's an annual, Whoo Hoo! Exciting news just under half a cent for each use.

For comparison, Adobe:
 Congratulations, Pete!
Yesterday you made: $26.40

Even at Alamy: $ 19.99 which is $9.99 for one sale.

So I'd guess the how exciting part varies from person to person? Especially when I make more in a day on Adobe that I have this year on IS?

Connect? Maybe there's something different for Exclusives? I see mine on DeepMeta, for example the $4.22 this month. Unless I don't read that right and it's for the year. I can't imagine getting nearly 1,000 of the .00422 cent downloads in one month. I never understand Connect anyway.

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #43 on: April 22, 2021, 16:12 »
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...I once tried to explain this to a friend: so the agency is called iStock but it's actually owned by Getty, but you have to use Deepmeta to upload, ...

Very nice, I'll add a little?
For fairness you can also upload using another outside developed software, that also does stats. qhero.com
For extreme fairness, you can also upload directly within ESP, which is what I do.

Uncle Pete

  • Great Place by a Great Lake - My Home Port
« Reply #44 on: April 25, 2021, 06:10 »
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...I once tried to explain this to a friend: so the agency is called iStock but it's actually owned by Getty, but you have to use Deepmeta to upload, ...

Very nice, I'll add a little?
For fairness you can also upload using another outside developed software, that also does stats. qhero.com
For extreme fairness, you can also upload directly within ESP, which is what I do.

Maybe I'll try that for a single some day and see how it works. Been so long I forgot. DM works very well and I like the data reporting, releases, all that, which makes everything easier in one place, but good point. I need to go there and take a look.

« Reply #45 on: April 25, 2021, 11:53 »
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Well for extreme fairness, I can't upload with Xpiks and that breaks my workflow.  :D Clicking the keywords is the worst procrastination inducing part.

Definitely varies from person to person. I have less than 10% of the connect sales, maybe even less that 5%, and I simply pretend they are not sales at all, it works for me. Adobe was always unpredictable for me, good RPD, but sales are all over the place, from extremely hot days to complete silence for days or a whole week. SS was very good, above IS until they made a cut to 10c and even before that new uploads were a complete waste of time for me since none of it got traction.

« Reply #46 on: April 26, 2021, 19:01 »
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They sold all my portfolio of 2440 vectors for 10.8336$ !!!!!!!! 0.0044 RPD  >:( >:(

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #47 on: April 27, 2021, 03:40 »
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They sold all my portfolio of 2440 vectors for 10.8336$ !!!!!!!! 0.0044 RPD  >:( >:(
Yes, same with us all. Most of these images weren't used.
It's explained in the sticky at the top of the March Sales thread on their forum.

Uncle Pete

  • Great Place by a Great Lake - My Home Port
« Reply #48 on: April 27, 2021, 10:40 »
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Not a secret, here's what they said.

"Connect statement

This month, contributors may see a higher than usual number of Connect transactions under 'Fixed Usage Fee', which typically relates to licenses to search-engines and similar businesses. For example, we may license large portions of our content library to a search engine with the potential for the search engine to use the content as part of its business. In such cases, we pay a royalty on all of the files, regardless of whether the search engine actually uses them under the license."

They sold all my portfolio of 2440 vectors for 10.8336$ !!!!!!!! 0.0044 RPD  >:( >:(

Well Well, I feel much better now about those fractional sales from Connect.  ;)


« Reply #49 on: April 29, 2021, 09:12 »
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Has someone already paid Istock?  :-[ And another question also have delays in accepting images?  :-\ I have like 100 photos awaiting acceptance more than 1 month ago!


 

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