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« Reply #350 on: February 21, 2017, 23:05 »
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i just got access to my january royalties and summary: its a bit hard to analyze the data, plenty of useless info in charts. So far none 0.02 sales, but many 0.05 and 0.09  >:( >:( >:(


« Reply #351 on: February 21, 2017, 23:25 »
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What is this premium access?

« Reply #352 on: February 21, 2017, 23:27 »
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I finally got access.
Not impressed.   Made a lot more with other agencies during all that time.
« Last Edit: February 21, 2017, 23:40 by Hildegarde »

« Reply #353 on: February 21, 2017, 23:32 »
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I finally got access--- is this only for Jan? 
My balance was twice this and more when access was shut off.   have not been paid either since before shut off.
Did I suddenly lose a lot of my royalties?

I was taking a wait and see approach as whether I choose to upload or not.

in the detailed text file, which i converted to excel I have an entry called "payment carried forward", it's the amount which disappeared in january in deep meta 2 and the istock site

« Reply #354 on: February 21, 2017, 23:32 »
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Looks like this are only Jan earnings. Where are December PP sales? Also, my credit earnings from this graph doesnt match those on iStock statistic page. They are a few cents short...

« Reply #355 on: February 21, 2017, 23:43 »
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By poking around I found a page with balance forwarded.   Looking at that and Jan, sales, I am not sure it is worth uploading there anymore.  Doing better at other agencies now.

Before they did all this I was actually thinking about going exclusive because my sales were SO much better there but now the opposite-- just since Nov.
« Last Edit: February 21, 2017, 23:46 by Hildegarde »

« Reply #356 on: February 22, 2017, 01:00 »
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Looks like this are only Jan earnings. Where are December PP sales? Also, my credit earnings from this graph doesnt match those on iStock statistic page. They are a few cents short...

Yeah mine dont match either and no PP sales for December or subs for last December week were added.

Also I only got 0.2 cents for several of my video sales what :(

StockPhotosArt.com

« Reply #357 on: February 22, 2017, 01:34 »
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How do you see the iStock income on ESP? Or any reference to iStock actually. Please be specific.

The problem is that I already had an account on ESP (Flickr contract) with the same email/username, but at the moment I do not see any reference to iStock, let alone payment info.

Getty has been totally unhelpful to this moment.

Thanks

« Reply #358 on: February 22, 2017, 01:47 »
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How do you see the iStock income on ESP? Or any reference to iStock actually. Please be specific.

The problem is that I already had an account on ESP (Flickr contract) with the same email/username, but at the moment I do not see any reference to iStock, let alone payment info.

Getty has been totally unhelpful to this moment.

Thanks



You should be able to see credit sales for January here http://www.istockphoto.com/user_stats.php?Offset=0&DownloadsGraphFileType They dont match with the amount reported for them in the stats you can download from ESP - Royalties - Export.

« Reply #359 on: February 22, 2017, 01:53 »
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Looks like this are only Jan earnings. Where are December PP sales? Also, my credit earnings from this graph doesnt match those on iStock statistic page. They are a few cents short...

As far as I can tell, I'm missing a few cents too and it was just enough to prevent me from getting the payout I was expecting this month. Three cents short.  >:(

Chichikov

« Reply #360 on: February 22, 2017, 02:37 »
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In the royalty statement, is there a way to simply have the total by month? December = X XXX January = X YYY  etc.?
I don't see it in the site page or un the text/pdf files to download

« Reply #361 on: February 22, 2017, 02:52 »
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i just got access to my january royalties and summary: its a bit hard to analyze the data, plenty of useless info in charts. So far none 0.02 sales, but many 0.05 and 0.09  >:( >:( >:(

Where do you see the price you got on every subscription?
I'm glad I didn't let my best sellers with them. No transparency at all. They really need to go down. I needed about 20 Dollars to meet my threshold. Now I did it!

« Reply #362 on: February 22, 2017, 02:55 »
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i just got access to my january royalties and summary: its a bit hard to analyze the data, plenty of useless info in charts. So far none 0.02 sales, but many 0.05 and 0.09  >:( >:( >:(

Where do you see the price you got on every subscription?
I'm glad I didn't let my best sellers with them. No transparency at all. They really need to go down. I needed about 20 Dollars to meet my threshold. Now I did it!
I can't find any individual data either...I'm not sure I have everything yet. We've waited all this time and we get a few basic Excel charts fit for a school project for 10 year olds...OK found it you have to download a pdf or txt file in the summary. Some pretty strange numbers in there
« Last Edit: February 22, 2017, 03:15 by Pauws99 »

StockPhotosArt.com

« Reply #363 on: February 22, 2017, 03:04 »
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How do you see the iStock income on ESP? Or any reference to iStock actually. Please be specific.

The problem is that I already had an account on ESP (Flickr contract) with the same email/username, but at the moment I do not see any reference to iStock, let alone payment info.

Getty has been totally unhelpful to this moment.

Thanks



You should be able to see credit sales for January here http://www.istockphoto.com/user_stats.php?Offset=0&DownloadsGraphFileType They dont match with the amount reported for them in the stats you can download from ESP - Royalties - Export.


I have that iStock page bookmarked so I know what credit sales I have.

The problem is that on the ESP site I do not see anywhere any reference to the iStock contract or any info related to iStock.

The only income report I can see and download refers to the Flickr contract, of which I can already see the statement. But nothing connects to iStock.

Where exactly do you see references to iStock on the ESP site?
« Last Edit: February 22, 2017, 04:48 by StockPhotosArt »

« Reply #364 on: February 22, 2017, 03:06 »
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Finally...I have acces to the royalties... Graphs everywhere. Who wants that?

I downloaded the PDF file, hoping to get some details of the files sold. It shows 20 pages of data, also a lot of sales that were made in 2016.
When checking them I noticed the Thinkstock partner sales.

For those of you worried about the .02 sales, it can be worse: there's some Thinkstock subscription plan that shows .00 sales....

All I want is a simple list with sales: which file for what amount and when it was sold. I don't care where it was sold, as long that it was sold and for how much.

If they can't even manage to make a simple report to their contributors I wonder how their IRS files look!

« Reply #365 on: February 22, 2017, 03:46 »
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I have succeed to open the pdf with my earnings. Indeed, there are a lot of files given up for free (I do not recall to give them my permission for this) and I also have 2-3 files marked with red. Should I sign a check to send them money for covering the expenses? Because it sounds I owe them some money.

Now, seriously, if we don't help them to go down, they will destroy the Microstock. Nobody will pay 0.25, 0.33. 0.38 on a subscription on Shutterstock if it is possible to be acquired for less money. Shutterstock will be forced to give our images for less money to survive.

« Reply #366 on: February 22, 2017, 04:06 »
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I have succeed to open the pdf with my earnings. Indeed, there are a lot of files given up for free (I do not recall to give them my permission for this) and I also have 2-3 files marked with red. Should I sign a check to send them money for covering the expenses? Because it sounds I owe them some money.

Now, seriously, if we don't help them to go down, they will destroy the Microstock. Nobody will pay 0.25, 0.33. 0.38 on a subscription on Shutterstock if it is possible to be acquired for less money. Shutterstock will be forced to give our images for less money to survive.
Although for buyers I'm not sure they ARE cheaper I-stock just take twice as much from us. Independents are subsidizing exclusives...for the first time I'm seriously thinking about pulling the plug on them.

« Reply #367 on: February 22, 2017, 04:11 »
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I have succeed to open the pdf with my earnings. Indeed, there are a lot of files given up for free (I do not recall to give them my permission for this) and I also have 2-3 files marked with red. Should I sign a check to send them money for covering the expenses? Because it sounds I owe them some money.

In my case most of the .0 sales are always accompanied by the same title/agency sale with positive royalty, so it must be some sort of accounting element that they needed to include. Same goes to negative figures marked in red; they are also most of the time go with the same figure but with "+", at least in my case. Now, I still counted 13 sales with "0" gross royalty and absent figure in Licence Fee (as if nobody did buy anything, or was given for free) and one case where Licence Fee was $1.29 but I received .0 royalty. Finally, from a very quick look I noticed that PDF statement may differ in some figures with the txt statement (which you can import to Excel, comma separated). So if you want to have a more detailed and controlled analysis of your royalties, I recommend the latter format.

Finally, I must also add that I had quite a lot of sales grossing 0.04 - 0.09 (since 0.10 sales should be considered already as significant ones, lol). If not for a couple large sales and total overall quantity of sales (grossing more than 50% of all other agencies' revenue), I would quit the next day. For the moment I'm still observing, whether this ship is sinking or merely stagnating.

« Reply #368 on: February 22, 2017, 04:23 »
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I have succeed to open the pdf with my earnings. Indeed, there are a lot of files given up for free (I do not recall to give them my permission for this) and I also have 2-3 files marked with red. Should I sign a check to send them money for covering the expenses? Because it sounds I owe them some money.

Now, seriously, if we don't help them to go down, they will destroy the Microstock. Nobody will pay 0.25, 0.33. 0.38 on a subscription on Shutterstock if it is possible to be acquired for less money. Shutterstock will be forced to give our images for less money to survive.
Although for buyers I'm not sure they ARE cheaper I-stock just take twice as much from us. Independents are subsidizing exclusives...for the first time I'm seriously thinking about pulling the plug on them.

I hope they die. If they wanted to attract more exclusives, they should have paid more money (not by raising the prices, just giving up a bit from their share) and people would have stuck with them. Last summer I have had some thoughts to go exclusive with them, so I would not be working so much with uploading on so many sites. I would have help me to create more than spending time with keywording. Too bad they are so greedy.
I hope they die.I hope they die.I hope they die.I hope they die.I hope they die.I hope they die. :)

Justanotherphotographer

« Reply #369 on: February 22, 2017, 04:28 »
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What a mess. Don't have a clue what any of it means. My exported spreadsheet is an absolute mess, all I can see is that most payments are a couple of cents or less, this cant be right surely?

« Reply #370 on: February 22, 2017, 04:29 »
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I have succeed to open the pdf with my earnings. Indeed, there are a lot of files given up for free (I do not recall to give them my permission for this) and I also have 2-3 files marked with red. Should I sign a check to send them money for covering the expenses? Because it sounds I owe them some money.

In my case most of the .0 sales are always accompanied by the same title/agency sale with positive royalty, so it must be some sort of accounting element that they needed to include. Same goes to negative figures marked in red; they are also most of the time go with the same figure but with "+", at least in my case. Now, I still counted 13 sales with "0" gross royalty and absent figure in Licence Fee (as if nobody did buy anything, or was given for free) and one case where Licence Fee was $1.29 but I received .0 royalty. Finally, from a very quick look I noticed that PDF statement may differ in some figures with the txt statement (which you can import to Excel, comma separated). So if you want to have a more detailed and controlled analysis of your royalties, I recommend the latter format.

Finally, I must also add that I had quite a lot of sales grossing 0.04 - 0.09 (since 0.10 sales should be considered already as significant ones, lol). If not for a couple large sales and total overall quantity of sales (grossing more than 50% of all other agencies' revenue), I would quit the next day. For the moment I'm still observing, whether this ship is sinking or merely stagnating.

Thank you but I think I have had enough with them. I will not accept to sell my work on 0.02, 0.09 cents. I will keep the few files I have, but not uploading anymore

« Reply #371 on: February 22, 2017, 04:30 »
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Clearly, the 0.00 sales in the PDF are not given away for free, that'd be ridiculous. If you look closely, they're always paired with an actual sale of the same image.

Don't like this way of reporting, though. Stupid graphs with useless info, separate file download for my sales and worst of all, terrible sales. I saw some 0.07 and 0.08 sales in there as well.

It's hard to fathom how iStock has gone from promising market leader to an average-performing agency.


« Reply #372 on: February 22, 2017, 04:37 »
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Clearly, the 0.00 sales in the PDF are not given away for free, that'd be ridiculous. If you look closely, they're always paired with an actual sale of the same image.

Don't like this way of reporting, though. Stupid graphs with useless info, separate file download for my sales and worst of all, terrible sales. I saw some 0.07 and 0.08 sales in there as well.

It's hard to fathom how iStock has gone from promising market leader to an average-performing agency.

I've seen now. You are right. They are not given for free. Still I can't accept to give my work with 0.02 Cents.  It's not big difference between 0 and 0.02, is it?

« Reply #373 on: February 22, 2017, 04:51 »
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Although for buyers I'm not sure they ARE cheaper I-stock just take twice as much from us.

It's even worse then. They encourage other microstock businesses to be greedy. If it works with them now, then will follow this sort of treatment from other companies. And we all will have to work more for less money.

« Reply #374 on: February 22, 2017, 04:55 »
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What's the "microsoft COO portal" that pays Getty 6.67 per sale and provides me with 0% commission?


 

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