Author Topic: Friday's RC target announcement and iStock's strategy behind it (Read 63519 times)

Slovenian · « **Reply #150 on:** June 04, 2011, 08:47 »

Quote from: ShadySue on June 04, 2011, 06:40

Quote from: Slovenian on June 04, 2011, 06:24
Quote from: Perry on June 04, 2011, 06:17
Quote from: Slovenian on June 04, 2011, 06:14
but also all the negative publicity that would force them to oblige.

Sorry to dissappoint you, but I don't think IS cares for negative publicity.

If media reported about ALL of the major players boycotting them, buyers not being to able to find their content (I imagine many go straight to someone's port and search within it), if Yuri gave a couple of really negative interviews and ask people on youtube to boycott IS, explaining why (he's great at that, he's not only smart, but has a degree in psychology), they would oblige, because it would cause massive drops in sales as well;)
The only way Yuri could hurt iStock would be by totally withdrawing his port. If he just asked people not to buy from iStock it would be a bit silly if he were still selling files there. I guess he's 'happy enough' with 20%, since he has apparently never made moves to be exclusive (except in Vectors IIRC) ior even a non-exclusive 'exclusive' like Rubberball. Of course, like anyone else, I'm, guessing (again) he'd be happier with a fairer cut. Unless he's the one that 'money isn't what makes him happy'.

That's what I said, boycott+media pressure;)

Black Sheep · « **Reply #151 on:** June 04, 2011, 09:00 »

It's not just IS and SS forums, also Alamy promptly deletes any critical debate or anything touching the wrong buttons that means for instance why alamy sales are sluggish, why alamy is not advertising anywhere, why nobody outisde UK ever heard of alamy, etc etc they simply delete everything and leave no explanation.

That's why i said many times fuck it, just close these idiotic forums where only fanboys can post and let us have serious discussions outside the agencies here on MSG.

Typical corporate double-speak .. the only feedback allowed is good feedback, well * off there's plenty of people who has enough of their BS.

cthoman · « **Reply #152 on:** June 04, 2011, 10:31 »

I have to say I really didn't care about the announcement, although I am teetering on losing a royalty level. That said, I did take the time to read through the announcement thread. It was interesting to read. I'm really starting to seriously wonder if iStock is starting to become a house of cards. With exclusives talking about or actually jumping ship, falling sales and the summer coming up, it all looks like the perfect storm. Normally, I make fun of the doomsayers, but this just looks like it could get ugly quick. I wonder if they'll be scrambling to "fix" things again in the fall.

lisafx · « **Reply #153 on:** June 04, 2011, 12:25 »

Quote from: Slovenian on June 04, 2011, 06:30

Quote from: aeonf on June 04, 2011, 06:25
Slovenian: The problem is BD's ARE meeting the RC target. Why would they rebel ??
Yuri is also getting his 20% so he isn't hurt in any way, why would he do anything against IS ??
Are they, did they confirm it? OK, those three might have, but what about the rest. Lisafx and some others surely didn't. They have a lot of muscle even without the top 3 and if some top diamonds joined "the cause" it would surely be enough. That would mean 100k+ files, many of them selling almost hourly.

I don't think there are a lot of independent BDs, and with the higher cost of exclusive images, plus V/A and E+, I think the exclusive BDs are well able to keep diamond level royalties. For nonexclusive BDs, most seem to not be bothering all that much with istock, if their upload rates are any indication.

Slovenian · « **Reply #154 on:** June 04, 2011, 12:39 »

Quote from: lisafx on June 04, 2011, 12:25

Quote from: Slovenian on June 04, 2011, 06:30
Quote from: aeonf on June 04, 2011, 06:25
Slovenian: The problem is BD's ARE meeting the RC target. Why would they rebel ??
Yuri is also getting his 20% so he isn't hurt in any way, why would he do anything against IS ??
Are they, did they confirm it? OK, those three might have, but what about the rest. Lisafx and some others surely didn't. They have a lot of muscle even without the top 3 and if some top diamonds joined "the cause" it would surely be enough. That would mean 100k+ files, many of them selling almost hourly.

I don't think there are a lot of independent BDs, and with the higher cost of exclusive images, plus V/A and E+, I think the exclusive BDs are well able to keep diamond level royalties. For nonexclusive BDs, most seem to not be bothering all that much with istock, if their upload rates are any indication.

It's a shame you could save all of us and become real (ms) heroes;)

Jo Ann Snover · « **Reply #155 on:** June 04, 2011, 12:41 »

I looked at my June iStock stats graph and decided it summed up pretty well how I feel about the whole thing

lisafx · « **Reply #156 on:** June 04, 2011, 12:45 »

Quote from: jsnover on June 04, 2011, 12:41

I looked at my June iStock stats graph and decided it summed up pretty well how I feel about the whole thing

LOL!

jbarber873 · « **Reply #157 on:** June 04, 2011, 12:48 »

Quote from: Slovenian on June 04, 2011, 12:39

Quote from: lisafx on June 04, 2011, 12:25
Quote from: Slovenian on June 04, 2011, 06:30
Quote from: aeonf on June 04, 2011, 06:25
Slovenian: The problem is BD's ARE meeting the RC target. Why would they rebel ??
Yuri is also getting his 20% so he isn't hurt in any way, why would he do anything against IS ??
Are they, did they confirm it? OK, those three might have, but what about the rest. Lisafx and some others surely didn't. They have a lot of muscle even without the top 3 and if some top diamonds joined "the cause" it would surely be enough. That would mean 100k+ files, many of them selling almost hourly.

I don't think there are a lot of independent BDs, and with the higher cost of exclusive images, plus V/A and E+, I think the exclusive BDs are well able to keep diamond level royalties. For nonexclusive BDs, most seem to not be bothering all that much with istock, if their upload rates are any indication.
It's a shame you could save all of us and become real (ms) heroes;)

What an insulting and idiotic post. Funny how you want Lisa to pull her portfolio just to satisfy some fantasy you have about making Istock knuckle under to your demands. If you don't like the way things are done at istock- then leave. YOU, not anyone else. YOU. The idea that would try to tell others what to do is absurd.

Slovenian · « **Reply #158 on:** June 04, 2011, 12:57 »

Quote from: jbarber873 on June 04, 2011, 12:48

Quote from: Slovenian on June 04, 2011, 12:39
Quote from: lisafx on June 04, 2011, 12:25
Quote from: Slovenian on June 04, 2011, 06:30
Quote from: aeonf on June 04, 2011, 06:25
Slovenian: The problem is BD's ARE meeting the RC target. Why would they rebel ??
Yuri is also getting his 20% so he isn't hurt in any way, why would he do anything against IS ??
Are they, did they confirm it? OK, those three might have, but what about the rest. Lisafx and some others surely didn't. They have a lot of muscle even without the top 3 and if some top diamonds joined "the cause" it would surely be enough. That would mean 100k+ files, many of them selling almost hourly.

I don't think there are a lot of independent BDs, and with the higher cost of exclusive images, plus V/A and E+, I think the exclusive BDs are well able to keep diamond level royalties. For nonexclusive BDs, most seem to not be bothering all that much with istock, if their upload rates are any indication.
It's a shame you could save all of us and become real (ms) heroes;)

What an insulting and idiotic post. Funny how you want Lisa to pull her portfolio just to satisfy some fantasy you have about making Istock knuckle under to your demands. If you don't like the way things are done at istock- then leave. YOU, not anyone else. YOU. The idea that would try to tell others what to do is absurd.

Don't get so upset, you'll just become old and bitter, you just can't see the forrest for the trees.

ShadySue · « **Reply #159 on:** June 04, 2011, 13:35 »

PLUS remember not to forget that if everyone worked hard to raise their RCs, they would just raise the targets. It's a bell graph, only a set percentage of contributors get each percentage commission. Insane and dated, and makes insane any attempt to help each other to raise our game.

Slovenian · « **Reply #160 on:** June 04, 2011, 15:37 »

Quote from: jsnover on June 04, 2011, 12:41

I looked at my June iStock stats graph and decided it summed up pretty well how I feel about the whole thing

LOL, we all seem to be getting them. Mine's a double;)

lisafx · « **Reply #161 on:** June 04, 2011, 16:55 »

Is it just me, or has the thumbs down been removed from the Istock 2012 rc targets thread? I know I saw it earlier today.

Why have the thumbs up/down functionality if you are not going to allow people to use it to express their dissatisfaction?

caspixel · « **Reply #162 on:** June 04, 2011, 16:57 »

Quote from: lisafx on June 04, 2011, 16:55

Is it just me, or has the thumbs down been removed from the Istock 2012 rc targets thread? I know I saw it earlier today.

Why have the thumbs up/down functionality if you are not going to allow people to use it to express their dissatisfaction?

I saw it earlier too. I guess only thumbs up is allowed now.

Slovenian · « **Reply #163 on:** June 04, 2011, 17:08 »

And I got no sales today, I should have known better than to thumb it down

Artemis · « **Reply #164 on:** June 04, 2011, 17:14 »

Quote from: lisafx on June 04, 2011, 16:55

Is it just me, or has the thumbs down been removed from the Istock 2012 rc targets thread? I know I saw it earlier today.

Why have the thumbs up/down functionality if you are not going to allow people to use it to express their dissatisfaction?

It's probably because some peeps have given it thumbs up; ive noticed before it sort of balances it out, thumbs down can be neutralized by enough thumbs up, and gets top thumbs up by even more thumb's up; if that makes sense

... if we kept clicking thumbs down on posts the thread most likely would show a thumbs down again; IF it isnt rigged.

gostwyck · « **Reply #165 on:** June 04, 2011, 17:22 »

Quote from: lisafx on June 04, 2011, 16:55

Is it just me, or has the thumbs down been removed from the Istock 2012 rc targets thread? I know I saw it earlier today.

Why have the thumbs up/down functionality if you are not going to allow people to use it to express their dissatisfaction?

It's back now __ thumbs down. Maybe Admins or inspectors keep giving it the thumbs up? They always appear out of the blue to woo-yay announcements.

ShadySue · « **Reply #166 on:** June 04, 2011, 17:29 »

I'm almost too embarrased to admit this

, but I have no idea how to thumbs up/down threads there.

Phil · « **Reply #167 on:** June 04, 2011, 17:36 »

Quote from: ShadySue on June 04, 2011, 17:29

I'm almost too embarrased to admit this , but I have no idea how to thumbs up/down threads there.

umm, I'll go one step further I didnt know you could

I still really cant get over their annoucements on friday afternoons (and just quietly in the forum), pretty spineless for people running a multimillion dollar company.

Artemis · « **Reply #168 on:** June 04, 2011, 17:57 »

Quote from: ShadySue on June 04, 2011, 17:29

I'm almost too embarrased to admit this , but I have no idea how to thumbs up/down threads there.

Dont be embarrased, its useless knowledge anyways

On the right hand side of each post next to 'permalink' there's a thumbs up and down symbol you can click.

ShadySue · « **Reply #169 on:** June 04, 2011, 18:01 »

Quote from: Artemis on June 04, 2011, 17:57

Quote from: ShadySue on June 04, 2011, 17:29
I'm almost too embarrased to admit this , but I have no idea how to thumbs up/down threads there.
Dont be embarrased, its useless knowledge anyways
On the right hand side of each post next to 'permalink' there's a thumbs up and down symbol you can click.

Oh, I remember seeing permalink before. It must be removed, with the thumbs, if you're Lobotomised: I did a 'Find:permalink' to be sure.

caspixel · « **Reply #170 on:** June 04, 2011, 18:12 »

Quote from: ShadySue on June 04, 2011, 18:01

Quote from: Artemis on June 04, 2011, 17:57
Quote from: ShadySue on June 04, 2011, 17:29
I'm almost too embarrased to admit this , but I have no idea how to thumbs up/down threads there.
Dont be embarrased, its useless knowledge anyways
On the right hand side of each post next to 'permalink' there's a thumbs up and down symbol you can click.
Oh, I remember seeing permalink before. It must be removed, with the thumbs, if you're Lobotomised: I did a 'Find:permalink' to be sure.

Yup, it's removed when your posting privileges are removed.

Beach Bum · « **Reply #171 on:** June 04, 2011, 18:45 »

I checked the first 10 pages of the discussion forum and saw no "thumbs down" threads, only "thumbs up." I guess everything's rosy at IS. Who knew?

klsbear · « **Reply #172 on:** June 04, 2011, 19:18 »

Quote from: lisafx on June 04, 2011, 12:45

Quote from: jsnover on June 04, 2011, 12:41
I looked at my June iStock stats graph and decided it summed up pretty well how I feel about the whole thing

LOL!

+1

ShadySue · « **Reply #173 on:** June 04, 2011, 19:20 »

Quote from: dehooks on June 04, 2011, 18:45

I checked the first 10 pages of the discussion forum and saw no "thumbs down" threads, only "thumbs up." I guess everything's rosy at IS. Who knew?

Yup, even that targets post has been neutralised again.

klsbear · « **Reply #174 on:** June 04, 2011, 19:21 »

Quote from: lisafx on June 04, 2011, 16:55

Is it just me, or has the thumbs down been removed from the Istock 2012 rc targets thread? I know I saw it earlier today.

Why have the thumbs up/down functionality if you are not going to allow people to use it to express their dissatisfaction?

Definately gone - I saw it earlier today too and got a chuckle from the fact that it was getting the thumbs down.

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