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Agency Based Discussion => iStockPhoto.com => Topic started by: Read_My_Rights on October 04, 2007, 14:44

Title: Getting similars (clearly alternate versions) accepted
Post by: Read_My_Rights on October 04, 2007, 14:44
First: I am a proponent of giving photo buyers choices. Portrait vs. landscape orientation, close up, detail vs. the whole thing ....
Second: I do not know what the buyer wants or needs ...

Question: How do you get alternative version of the same scene accepted at IS?
Frequently a whole batch of pictures are beeing rejected because their appear to be duplicates of previously submitted pictures to the reviewer, which of course they are not.

How can I specialize in something if often times when I submit creative variations I get rejected..

Sharply: How do you get all these airline shots accepted if they are variations on "airplane in front of sky" theme. Not trying to knock anybody, just curious.


On an unrelated note:
Anybody having a slow start for the month too?

Thanks
Title: Re: Getting similars (clearly alternate versions) accepted
Post by: sharply_done on October 04, 2007, 15:40
I've had problems at only two agencies with my stuff: IS and DT. I've found that only a few reviewers reject images for being too similar, and if I feel strongly enough about an image I'll wait a few weeks and then resubmit it. I don't need to do this very often, though, because I make 4 versions of each shot (horizontal, vertical, square, panoramic - two with copyspace, two without) so that if one is rejected I have three to take its place.

For reasons that I will not get into, I no longer specialize in aircraft shots at DT. But that's okay - my aircraft shots dramatically underperform there anyway (56% of my DT portfolio is aircraft, but only 26% of my sales come from it). C'est la vie.

As far as a slow month goes, the problems at IS and increased competition are having an impact - sales have been below $100 for the past week.
Title: Re: Getting similars (clearly alternate versions) accepted
Post by: madelaide on October 04, 2007, 16:18
Question: How do you get alternative version of the same scene accepted at IS?


Yes.

Sometimes it needs a further explanation, like in this case:
(http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/3590669) (http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/3579238)

Which is clearly the same image with a different crop, and even the buyer could easily do what I did with the white background. They rejected one for being similar, and I had it reversed by showing that a buyer using the landscape/portrait format filter might not find a perfectly suitable image.

Also similar ones pass their control.  The latter is an isolated version of the first:
(http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/1786081/1/istockphoto_1786081_bowl_of_granola.jpg) (http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/1805328/1/istockphoto_1805328_bowl_of_granola.jpg) (http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/1805402/1/istockphoto_1805402_bowl_of_granola.jpg) (http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/1805408/1/istockphoto_1805408_bowl_of_granola.jpg)

I don't upload all images in a series together because quite often they reject one for some technical problem, and if I upload all I may have all rejected.

Like Sharply_done, lately I've been trying to produce at least one vertical and one horizontal of each set up, like here:
(http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/2806049/1/istockphoto_2806049_pink_rose_and_pearls.jpg) (http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/2806093/1/istockphoto_2806093_pink_rose_and_pearls.jpg)

Regards,
Adelaide
Title: Re: Getting similars (clearly alternate versions) accepted
Post by: Whiz on October 04, 2007, 16:20
I was having a slow month. But yesterday things picked up a bit, and it seems more like a normal month now.