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« on: October 24, 2017, 18:22 »
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Anyone else receive a contributor survey asking about stat reporting, contributor support etc???

I just let all my frustrations out, and it feels good.

Maybe they are realizing their downward spiral with contributors, maybe a change is coming?? ...probably not! 😂


fritz

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« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2017, 18:26 »
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Drop them years ago!

« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2017, 19:57 »
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Anyone else receive a contributor survey asking about stat reporting, contributor support etc???

I just let all my frustrations out, and it feels good.

Maybe they are realizing their downward spiral with contributors, maybe a change is coming?? ...probably not! 😂

I just don't understand why people want them to change.  Simply drop that agency. I don't want them to get better in anything. I just hope they lose all their customers

« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2017, 20:01 »
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That was fun.

« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2017, 02:46 »
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Very rarely do even quite good organisations take real notice of these surveys unless they confirm what they want to hear so I'm not expecting any changes on the back of this ;-). Interesting they are asking about ability to be non-exclusive.

Noedelhap

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« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2017, 03:10 »
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I'm all for staying in touch with customers and contributors and doing proper market research, BUT...
...they sent another survey in July, and I already told them what I thought should change to make it better for contributors. And now they sent us another survey, as if they're not even doing anything with the results from the first one. So this time, I'm not gonna waste my time with them.

Besides, as they're one of the worst paying agencies out there, I'm not going to hint them in the right direction anymore. Let their competitors take over the market, if they haven't already.

Chichikov

« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2017, 03:35 »
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I have had a lot of fun to say them all the bad that I think of them!!
 8)

Quasarphoto

  • there are no problems only solutions

« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2017, 09:36 »
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I still have income from them, cannot bite the hand that feeds me. They are way worse agencies out there which are producing nothing.

Chichikov

« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2017, 10:23 »
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I still have income from them, cannot bite the hand that feeds me. They are way worse agencies out there which are producing nothing.
Yes but they need help getting down their pedestal

Quasarphoto

  • there are no problems only solutions

« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2017, 10:59 »
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Because most of the forum members hide their identity and have no link to their portfolios I take everything what is said on this page with a huuuge grain of salt. There is no way to check the relations between the complainers and their actual work. People having few hundred snapshots in their portfolio are whining their heads off, nonsense.

ShadySue

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« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2017, 12:28 »
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Anyone else receive a contributor survey asking about stat reporting, contributor support etc???

I just let all my frustrations out, and it feels good.

Maybe they are realizing their downward spiral with contributors, maybe a change is coming?? ...probably not! 😂

Catharsis is always good; but they've sent out these surveys before, and it's never made any positive difference.
Downhill all the way, in every direction. The stats are almost useless, and I've heard terrible things about uploading nowadays, but with everything else which is going on, like keywords being suddenly disappeared  rendering files unsearchable on their most important keywords, and rpd going through the floor, fixing the stats would be like polishing a t***.

I wonder how long their poor customer service people manage to stick it out, on average. It must be soul-destroying, just fob off the idiot contributors and if you make them repeat their question over and over, but only give tangential (at best) 'set' answers from a list, they'll soon give up.

Clair Voyant

« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2017, 13:01 »
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If Getty even showed a smidgeon or an inkling they valued contributors this would be a great start. But they don't. The survey is pointless in my view. If they want to know the way contributors feel they can start with reading their own forums and work on down to this forum. I don't see a large fan base from the contributors point of view. The upper management is out of touch with who actually produces the product and how important we are to their survival. But none of this is a newsflash.

« Reply #12 on: October 25, 2017, 13:46 »
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No one at the coal face has any power to change anything that would actually make a difference is my guess. Management just want us squeezed and any improvements have to come out of the same or shrinking small pot the jokers tasked with keeping us happy have been given.

No way they will ever raise commissions, which it the only way they can get people back on board in the long run.

« Reply #13 on: October 25, 2017, 13:59 »
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Probably just some new 'contributor relations' guy at Getty, starting out with a survey so he has something for his next PowerPoint.   Nothing ever comes of these things.   

« Reply #14 on: October 25, 2017, 14:42 »
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Probably just some new 'contributor relations' guy at Getty, starting out with a survey so he has something for his next PowerPoint.   Nothing ever comes of these things.   

LOL. I can imagine that first day at the job and seeing the responses come in. Day 2 is probably sending out resumes.  ;D

« Reply #15 on: October 25, 2017, 17:29 »
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Probably just some new 'contributor relations' guy at Getty, starting out with a survey so he has something for his next PowerPoint.   Nothing ever comes of these things.   

LOL. I can imagine that first day at the job and seeing the responses come in. Day 2 is probably sending out resumes.  ;D

Right now he thinks he's in The Good Place.   But soon he'll figure it out.

I picture him in the first big meeting.  He puts up the numbers from his survey and tells the others that he was shocked to learn that their contributors basically hope they'll burn in hell.   And then there's that awkward silence, people trying not to smirk, finally someone says "ok, soooooo..."


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« Reply #16 on: October 26, 2017, 00:36 »
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Probably just some new 'contributor relations' guy at Getty, starting out with a survey so he has something for his next PowerPoint.   Nothing ever comes of these things.   

LOL. I can imagine that first day at the job and seeing the responses come in. Day 2 is probably sending out resumes.  ;D

Right now he thinks he's in The Good Place.   But soon he'll figure it out.

I picture him in the first big meeting.  He puts up the numbers from his survey and tells the others that he was shocked to learn that their contributors basically hope they'll burn in hell.   And then there's that awkward silence, people trying not to smirk, finally someone says "ok, soooooo..."
I used to be involved in doing staff surveys....when one delivered some particularly bad results every theory was pursued except the one that maybe the staff had a point ;-)

« Reply #17 on: October 26, 2017, 04:01 »
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The bit about exclusivity was interesting.

Wouldn't surprise me if they tried a trick like raising the base level back to 20% and doing away with 40% exclusive royalties whilst proclaiming it a win all round for artists.

They'd get renewed enthusiasm from the great mass of contributors that would drown out the complaints from the small number of 40%'ers left.

« Reply #18 on: October 26, 2017, 04:54 »
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The bit about exclusivity was interesting.

Wouldn't surprise me if they tried a trick like raising the base level back to 20% and doing away with 40% exclusive royalties whilst proclaiming it a win all round for artists.

They'd get renewed enthusiasm from the great mass of contributors that would drown out the complaints from the small number of 40%'ers left.
I can only guess but I can only think the number of exclusives is going down. I can see why those with good incomes and a "following" might stick with it but I can't imagine why anyone would go exclusive from where we sit now. Raise the rates? This is Istock :-[

« Reply #19 on: October 26, 2017, 16:39 »
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They asked us :  "How can we improve our Getty Images/iStock Contributor tools and services?"

Getty version of April Fool's Day

« Reply #20 on: October 27, 2017, 09:45 »
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Probably just some new 'contributor relations' guy at Getty, starting out with a survey so he has something for his next PowerPoint.   Nothing ever comes of these things.   

LOL. I can imagine that first day at the job and seeing the responses come in. Day 2 is probably sending out resumes.  ;D

Right now he thinks he's in The Good Place.   But soon he'll figure it out.

I picture him in the first big meeting.  He puts up the numbers from his survey and tells the others that he was shocked to learn that their contributors basically hope they'll burn in hell.   And then there's that awkward silence, people trying not to smirk, finally someone says "ok, soooooo..."
I used to be involved in doing staff surveys....when one delivered some particularly bad results every theory was pursued except the one that maybe the staff had a point ;-)

As I recall, the typical outcome was that the person who presented the survey ended up with all the action items.   :-)

« Reply #21 on: October 27, 2017, 16:42 »
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Probably just some new 'contributor relations' guy at Getty, starting out with a survey so he has something for his next PowerPoint.   Nothing ever comes of these things.   

LOL. I can imagine that first day at the job and seeing the responses come in. Day 2 is probably sending out resumes.  ;D

Right now he thinks he's in The Good Place.   But soon he'll figure it out.

I picture him in the first big meeting.  He puts up the numbers from his survey and tells the others that he was shocked to learn that their contributors basically hope they'll burn in hell.   And then there's that awkward silence, people trying not to smirk, finally someone says "ok, soooooo..."
I used to be involved in doing staff surveys....when one delivered some particularly bad results every theory was pursued except the one that maybe the staff had a point ;-)

As I recall, the typical outcome was that the person who presented the survey ended up with all the action items.   :-)
Or looking for another job ;-).

« Reply #22 on: October 27, 2017, 16:53 »
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The bit about exclusivity was interesting.

Wouldn't surprise me if they tried a trick like raising the base level back to 20% and doing away with 40% exclusive royalties whilst proclaiming it a win all round for artists.

They'd get renewed enthusiasm from the great mass of contributors that would drown out the complaints from the small number of 40%'ers left.

They could easily do personal deals with the few people that really matter and otherwise kill the exclusivity program.

I haven't heard of any interesting people going exclusive. in the forums or on facebook the people mulling exclusivity, at least those that comment publicly are true photo amateurs.

If there is nobody making an effort to develop the exclusive community, what is the point?

The old istock had over 13 000 exclusive artists from all over the world and made a big effort to train people and get them to work together.

But now all I read is people leaving and going indie.

They can always offer people with interesting content a Getty Macro house contract.


« Reply #23 on: October 28, 2017, 01:29 »
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The bit about exclusivity was interesting.

Wouldn't surprise me if they tried a trick like raising the base level back to 20% and doing away with 40% exclusive royalties whilst proclaiming it a win all round for artists.

They'd get renewed enthusiasm from the great mass of contributors that would drown out the complaints from the small number of 40%'ers left.
I really hope no one would get enthusiastic about 20%. That would still be the lowest rate of any agency. To get me back on board they would have to go to 30+ at the very least,  an achievable 38c for subs and no more giveaways for a couple of cents or fractions of a cent. All perfectly reasonable and all unthinkable for istock.

ShadySue

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« Reply #24 on: October 28, 2017, 07:45 »
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The bit about exclusivity was interesting.

Wouldn't surprise me if they tried a trick like raising the base level back to 20% and doing away with 40% exclusive royalties whilst proclaiming it a win all round for artists.

They'd get renewed enthusiasm from the great mass of contributors that would drown out the complaints from the small number of 40%'ers left.

They could easily do personal deals with the few people that really matter and otherwise kill the exclusivity program.

I haven't heard of any interesting people going exclusive. in the forums or on facebook the people mulling exclusivity, at least those that comment publicly are true photo amateurs.

If there is nobody making an effort to develop the exclusive community, what is the point?

The old istock had over 13 000 exclusive artists from all over the world and made a big effort to train people and get them to work together.

But now all I read is people leaving and going indie.

They can always offer people with interesting content a Getty Macro house contract.

The exclusive thing has changed a lot. It's not now about how many sales you've made, it's whether they think your portfolio 'fits'.
But also, the benefits of exclusivity have been severely eroded.


 

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