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lisafx

« Reply #150 on: January 11, 2013, 13:48 »
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You beat me to it uvox4 :D

Three cheers for Sean for taking time to do this!!!


lisafx

« Reply #151 on: January 11, 2013, 13:52 »
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Oh no, 7 of mine!!!

Elena, the ones of yours that are there...are they from Getty or from your microstock portfolio? 

« Reply #152 on: January 11, 2013, 13:59 »
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You beat me to it uvox4 :D

Three cheers for Sean for taking time to do this!!!
IS could learn a lot from Sean.  They should have somebody like him running the place.

« Reply #153 on: January 11, 2013, 14:05 »
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Oh no, 7 of mine!!!

Elena, the ones of yours that are there...are they from Getty or from your microstock portfolio?

Actually, at least 8 of mine. One that I know of from Thinkstock via Ingram Publishing (so my name is not listed), and the other 7 are from Getty images, I think all of them from Tetra Images collection, exclusive to them. Lovely.

lisafx

« Reply #154 on: January 11, 2013, 14:08 »
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Oh no, 7 of mine!!!

Elena, the ones of yours that are there...are they from Getty or from your microstock portfolio?

Actually, at least 8 of mine. One that I know of from Thinkstock via Ingram Publishing (so my name is not listed), and the other 7 are from Getty images, I think all of them from Tetra Images collection, exclusive to them. Lovely.

Thanks Elena.  It's good to get an idea how indies files are ending up there. 

« Reply #155 on: January 11, 2013, 14:10 »
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Thanks a lot Sean.  That helps in finding the images.  One of mine and I'm not impressed. 

I was thinking of trying to fill up all my upload slots to iStock this year, not sure I want any more of this.

« Reply #156 on: January 11, 2013, 14:11 »
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Oh no, 7 of mine!!!

Elena, the ones of yours that are there...are they from Getty or from your microstock portfolio?

Actually, at least 8 of mine. One that I know of from Thinkstock via Ingram Publishing (so my name is not listed), and the other 7 are from Getty images, I think all of them from Tetra Images collection, exclusive to them. Lovely.

Thanks Elena.  It's good to get an idea how indies files are ending up there.

I also saw some files from Blend Images. Both Tetra and Blend are high-priced collections selling not only on Getty but on other macros, what they h*ll Getty thinks they are doing. I am emailing Tetra and Blend to let them know this is happening if they are not on it already.

« Reply #157 on: January 11, 2013, 14:15 »
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I also saw some files from Blend Images. Both Tetra and Blend are high-priced collections selling not only on Getty but on other macros, what they h*ll Getty thinks they are doing. I am emailing Tetra and Blend to let them know this is happening if they are not on it already.

I saw quite a few from John Lund (from blend).

« Reply #158 on: January 11, 2013, 14:16 »
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I have 4 images there. They are from Getty/Flickr collection. Google bought them in 31-Oct-12. They paid $60 and I got $12 for each one.

And in 29-Nov-12, google bought another 2 images (Customer Name: Google: eC
ommerce & Google Dri), but can't find them there. Something different is that they paid only $30 for each one this time. :-\
How do you feel about it? Is it a problem for you? Why isn't this discussed in the Flickr forums? Four pictures are quite a lot if I read the iStock forums there is a lot of outcry even from contributors that aren't affected at all.

Are any of the Getty/Flickr images in the Google set? If so, then certainly the media wind-up could be started at the Flickr forums. Even if we don't know, the Getty/Flickr contributors would likely want to go look for themselves to see if they have any orphans now loose.

The first one I traced back to the Getty Images site was from their Flickr collection.

« Reply #159 on: January 11, 2013, 14:24 »
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Thank you for compiling the list Sean.

« Reply #160 on: January 11, 2013, 14:26 »
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This feels like a Dreamstime sell the right license .. except we only get $12 and they get to pick whichever photos they want.  They are essentially killing the value of the photos they stuck in this freebie

« Reply #161 on: January 11, 2013, 14:28 »
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I also saw some files from Blend Images. Both Tetra and Blend are high-priced collections selling not only on Getty but on other macros, what they h*ll Getty thinks they are doing. I am emailing Tetra and Blend to let them know this is happening if they are not on it already.

I saw quite a few from John Lund (from blend).

.. yeah.. wow. 17 on my count.

tab62

« Reply #162 on: January 11, 2013, 14:31 »
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Funny that I haven't seen the King of MS on the string?

« Reply #163 on: January 11, 2013, 14:34 »
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Sean - thank you for your effort on this. As someone else noted, iStock should be ashamed that you are doing this work and not them.

I was able to verify that none of my images are there, which is a partial relief, but Getty's high handed giveaway sets a new low water mark for bad behavior.

I saw Sean had 6 images given away and Yuri (Jacob Wackerhausen is on some of the images, Yuri Arcurs on others) 10. Lise Gagne only 2, Monkey Business Images 4.

Did anyone do better/worse than 10?
« Last Edit: January 11, 2013, 14:40 by jsnover »

« Reply #164 on: January 11, 2013, 14:39 »
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This feels like a Dreamstime sell the right license .. except we only get $12 and they get to pick whichever photos they want.  They are essentially killing the value of the photos they stuck in this freebie

Looking at the quality of those images it is almost impossible to believe that Getty really did sell a 'give away for free and forever' license ... for just sixty paltry dollars to Google! It's utterly insane. Even at $6000 per image (with $1200 going to the artist) I'm not sure many of them would have agreed to it.

« Reply #165 on: January 11, 2013, 14:43 »
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I only found six of mine - the copyright info is missing on a few.  If you were adding up all the times my name showed up, that would be why you got ten.

« Reply #166 on: January 11, 2013, 14:46 »
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I only found six of mine - the copyright info is missing on a few.  If you were adding up all the times my name showed up, that would be why you got ten.

I already fixed my post as I realized that mistake :)

It's lunchtime at HQ and still nothing from them. Did you ever find the $72 in Premium Access Licenses from your GI statements?

« Reply #167 on: January 11, 2013, 14:53 »
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I only found six of mine - the copyright info is missing on a few.  If you were adding up all the times my name showed up, that would be why you got ten.

I already fixed my post as I realized that mistake :)

It's lunchtime at HQ and still nothing from them. Did you ever find the $72 in Premium Access Licenses from your GI statements?

Hang on, I just realized I need to check my iStock Getty reports since these are all Vetta/Agency...

fritz

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« Reply #168 on: January 11, 2013, 14:54 »
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Found 2 of mine. No copyright info. Great!

« Reply #169 on: January 11, 2013, 14:58 »
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Yes, I did get paid $12 each on 10/31.  Wheeee!

« Reply #170 on: January 11, 2013, 14:59 »
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Looking at the quality of those images it is almost impossible to believe that Getty really did sell a 'give away for free and forever' license ... for just sixty paltry dollars to Google! It's utterly insane. Even at $6000 per image (with $1200 going to the artist) I'm not sure many of them would have agreed to it.

We don't know the details of this scam. I suspect there might be some additional compensation involved, e.g. Google pays ridiculously low image royalties, but pays a commission to Getty for "doing the selection of the images" or whatever, or offers them credits to be spent on AdSense etc.

I find it pathetic that iStock needs a ****ing "lawyer" in their forum. If they were innocent they would not need a lawyer to explain their actions. I don't know any other agency that needs a lawyer to communicate with their contributors on a regular basis.

« Reply #171 on: January 11, 2013, 15:03 »
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Sean - thank you for your effort on this. As someone else noted, iStock should be ashamed that you are doing this work and not them.

I was able to verify that none of my images are there, which is a partial relief, but Getty's high handed giveaway sets a new low water mark for bad behavior.

I saw Sean had 6 images given away and Yuri (Jacob Wackerhausen is on some of the images, Yuri Arcurs on others) 10. Lise Gagne only 2, Monkey Business Images 4.

Did anyone do better/worse than 10?

So far I found 2 from Thinkstock, 6 from Tetra collection, 1 Photographer's Choice. 9 in total.

« Reply #172 on: January 11, 2013, 15:11 »
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So far I found 2 from Thinkstock, 6 from Tetra collection, 1 Photographer's Choice. 9 in total.

Not exactly a contest you want to win though, sadly. I guess you're currently the bronze silver medalist :)

It'd be nice if Tetra was able to kick up a stink with Getty, but they may be like so many others - ill able to afford losing Getty's business and thus unwilling to do more than complain politely.

Modified as I did a couple of checks for names I know and Andrew Rich - RichVintage has 11, so he's "beating" Yuri in this horrible sweepstakes
« Last Edit: January 11, 2013, 15:18 by jsnover »

« Reply #173 on: January 11, 2013, 15:21 »
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So far I found 2 from Thinkstock, 6 from Tetra collection, 1 Photographer's Choice. 9 in total.

Not exactly a contest you want to win though, sadly. I guess you're currently the bronze silver medalist :)

It'd be nice if Tetra was able to kick up a stink with Getty, but they may be like so many others - ill able to afford losing Getty's business and thus unwilling to do more than complain politely.

Modified as I did a couple of checks for names I know and Andrew Rich - RichVintage has 11, so he's "beating" Yuri in this horrible sweepstakes

I think the 'Grill Family' are this week's lucky winners. Jamie Grill especially but also some from Daniel and Tom himself. They won't be best pleased.

« Reply #174 on: January 11, 2013, 15:24 »
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So far I found 2 from Thinkstock, 6 from Tetra collection, 1 Photographer's Choice. 9 in total.

Not exactly a contest you want to win though, sadly. I guess you're currently the bronze silver medalist :)

It'd be nice if Tetra was able to kick up a stink with Getty, but they may be like so many others - ill able to afford losing Getty's business and thus unwilling to do more than complain politely.

Modified as I did a couple of checks for names I know and Andrew Rich - RichVintage has 11, so he's "beating" Yuri in this horrible sweepstakes

Ha, I still made the podium so far:) Tetra is already looking into this, talking to Getty. We'll see what happens.


 

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