Author Topic: Grass is NOT greener at the others!! (Read 34350 times)

SNP · « **Reply #25 on:** January 01, 2011, 16:41 »

^ do you often make business decisions based on a few posts by one pathologically cranky guy? good luck with that...iStock is a mess, as Vlad said above, right now. disreputable....ha. listen, the more other contributors take off, the more of the pie there is for the rest of us.

aeonf · « **Reply #26 on:** January 01, 2011, 16:45 »

Let me quote "Juanmonino" . he got it right:
Everybody here have to realize this is pure business, business and business. When Bruce sold IS, the community was over, there is no more community here. This is about money. We have to accept it.

They can take arbitrary measures, introduce new collections with files from people that used to despise Istock, put their files way in front of the ones that built this site, they can embrace "exciting" new projects, directed only and only to make more profits.

And they have the right to do that, they bought the company, they paid the price, they took the risk, this is not the red cross

Since we "crossed the river" things changed for ever here, maybe until the do the IPO, who knows... But they are not the ones that have to take the blame, they are doing what they supposed to do, make money for the ones that pay them...the stockholders. They are doing what they have to do. And we should do what we have to do... take it or leave it, or live with it (my case)

If you want to blame someone, blame Bruce... he sold the community for a price (and I dont personally blame him either, I would probably did the same)

caspixel · « **Reply #27 on:** January 01, 2011, 16:47 »

Quote from: SNP on January 01, 2011, 16:41

listen, the more other contributors take off, the more of the pie there is for the rest of us.

...or not. The constantly declining downloads aren't just because there are too many contributors.

aeonf · « **Reply #28 on:** January 01, 2011, 16:48 »

Quote from: caspixel on January 01, 2011, 16:47

Quote from: SNP on January 01, 2011, 16:41
listen, the more other contributors take off, the more of the pie there is for the rest of us.

...or not. The constantly declining downloads aren't just because there are too many contributors.

How do you know that ?

nruboc · « **Reply #29 on:** January 01, 2011, 17:01 »

Quote from: gostwyck on January 01, 2011, 15:09

Quote from: vlad_the_imp on January 01, 2011, 14:34
Come on, let's not get carried away. There are a few small sellers, gossiping away here, egging each other on and over inflating their own importance and relevance.

Spoken like a true exclusive! I suppose having no data on the greater market enables you to keep your head firmly in the sand.

I just counted OVER 70 DIAMOND EXCLUSIVES (plus one Black Diamond) all motivated enough to state that they are losing out on this thread and that's just within the last 24 hours;

http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=287302

When even Rob S., having left his admin post, is now musing over leaving IS altogether then you know that the problems go right to the core of Istock.

As you say ... "just a few small sellers, gossiping away here, egging each other on and over inflating their own importance and relevance".

An alternative view might be that the situation is serious with the potential to go critical.

wow..... that thread speaks volumes, much louder than the anonymous cheerleaders on this thread

gostwyck · « **Reply #30 on:** January 01, 2011, 17:20 »

Quote from: SNP on January 01, 2011, 16:41

^ do you often make business decisions based on a few posts by one pathologically cranky guy? good luck with that...iStock is a mess, as Vlad said above, right now. disreputable....ha. listen, the more other contributors take off, the more of the pie there is for the rest of us.

Are you referring to me by any chance? Coming from someone whose 'Ignore' stat's outweigh those of their 'Useful Post' numbers by 5:1 then I suppose I shouldn't be too surprised. I guess the good folk of this forum have already made their own mind up on who is 'pathologically cranky'.

Good luck on getting 'more of the pie' as you hope. Not sure how big the pie's going to be though or indeed how much of it Istock will actually let you keep in the future.

Blufish · « **Reply #31 on:** January 01, 2011, 17:22 »

Quote from: SNP on January 01, 2011, 16:41

^ do you often make business decisions based on a few posts by one pathologically cranky guy? good luck with that...iStock is a mess, as Vlad said above, right now. disreputable....ha. listen, the more other contributors take off, the more of the pie there is for the rest of us.

I stand by disreputable. The changes, cc fraud, F5 epic fail,etc, just check the ongoing list on another thread. This company is shameful.

vlad_the_imp · « **Reply #32 on:** January 01, 2011, 17:45 »

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disreputable....ha.

Exactly

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This company is shameful.

You've sold 2 files when I looked at one of your links. I'm not sure you have the experience to meaningfully comment.

jamirae · « **Reply #33 on:** January 01, 2011, 17:59 »

Quote from: SNP on January 01, 2011, 16:41

^ do you often make business decisions based on a few posts by one pathologically cranky guy? good luck with that...iStock is a mess, as Vlad said above, right now. disreputable....ha. listen, the more other contributors take off, the more of the pie there is for the rest of us.

well I would guess that many of them will not take off completely. Like me, I turned in my crown, but i have not quit istock. I still have a large portfolio there that continues to earn me money and downloads. In fact, I may see more downloads as buyers discover that they can find less costly stuff it they look for the files without a crown. I'm still uploading there and selling. I have no reason not to, it's business for me. I'm already seeing good download numbers at DT and SS, and just with a very small portion of my portfolio.

Blufish · « **Reply #34 on:** January 01, 2011, 18:11 »

Quote from: vlad_the_imp on January 01, 2011, 17:45

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disreputable....ha.

Exactly

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This company is shameful.

You've sold 2 files when I looked at one of your links. I'm not sure you have the experience to meaningfully comment.

Predictable comment from a person that has no links to any of their work. Amount of files sold has no meaning in this conversation. Yes, I have sold 2 files. Yay me. I started 6 months ago in photography, but I have been a graphic designer and buyer for 20 years. Bite me.

SNP · « **Reply #35 on:** January 01, 2011, 18:13 »

Quote from: gostwyck on January 01, 2011, 17:20

Quote from: SNP on January 01, 2011, 16:41
^ do you often make business decisions based on a few posts by one pathologically cranky guy? good luck with that...iStock is a mess, as Vlad said above, right now. disreputable....ha. listen, the more other contributors take off, the more of the pie there is for the rest of us.

Are you referring to me by any chance? Coming from someone whose 'Ignore' stat's outweigh those of their 'Useful Post' numbers by 5:1 then I suppose I shouldn't be too surprised. I guess the good folk of this forum have already made their own mind up on who is 'pathologically cranky'.

Good luck on getting 'more of the pie' as you hope. Not sure how big the pie's going to be though or indeed how much of it Istock will actually let you keep in the future.

ignore button, lol...who cares. it's a way to pique the people you 'dislike'. it should be called the cliqueometer. and I thought you might guess I was referring to you ;-)

@ jamirae: you're a really good contributor. I can understand your decision, though I personally think dropping the crown will hurt you financially. but as some people have stated, for many this is about more than just the money. so I hope your principles are worth the drop in income. I have no doubt those new indies experiencing drops in income will never say so here anyways.

jamirae · « **Reply #36 on:** January 01, 2011, 18:53 »

Quote from: SNP on January 01, 2011, 18:13

Quote from: gostwyck on January 01, 2011, 17:20
Quote from: SNP on January 01, 2011, 16:41
^ do you often make business decisions based on a few posts by one pathologically cranky guy? good luck with that...iStock is a mess, as Vlad said above, right now. disreputable....ha. listen, the more other contributors take off, the more of the pie there is for the rest of us.

Are you referring to me by any chance? Coming from someone whose 'Ignore' stat's outweigh those of their 'Useful Post' numbers by 5:1 then I suppose I shouldn't be too surprised. I guess the good folk of this forum have already made their own mind up on who is 'pathologically cranky'.

Good luck on getting 'more of the pie' as you hope. Not sure how big the pie's going to be though or indeed how much of it Istock will actually let you keep in the future.

ignore button, lol...who cares. it's a way to pique the people you 'dislike'. it should be called the cliqueometer. and I thought you might guess I was referring to you ;-)

@ jamirae: you're a really good contributor. I can understand your decision, though I personally think dropping the crown will hurt you financially. but as some people have stated, for many this is about more than just the money. so I hope your principles are worth the drop in income. I have no doubt those new indies experiencing drops in income will never say so here anyways.

of course I will see a drop in income while I build my portfolio at other sites. this is about money for me, some principle, but mostly about the money. I'm giving it a year and I'll be the first to say if it doesn't work out as an Independent, though I doubt I will have any regrets at this time next year.

SNP · « **Reply #37 on:** January 01, 2011, 18:56 »

well, I certainly wish you luck and success. nothing to do with being right, but I suspect you might be kicking yourself or breaking even with double the work. but hey, if someone finds the golden key to independence other than Yuri and proves it to be more lucrative...good on them and that's an open door to the rest of us.

caspixel · « **Reply #38 on:** January 01, 2011, 18:56 »

Quote from: SNP on January 01, 2011, 18:13

@ jamirae: you're a really good contributor. I can understand your decision, though I personally think dropping the crown will hurt you financially. but as some people have stated, for many this is about more than just the money. so I hope your principles are worth the drop in income. I have no doubt those new indies experiencing drops in income will never say so here anyways.

Sounds more like someone trying to convince themselves. Jamirae is already reporting good sales at other agencies, even with a small portfolio. Or did you ignore that part. iStock is actually not the be-all, end-all to the microstock world, though exclusives have convinced themselves of such.

caspixel · « **Reply #39 on:** January 01, 2011, 18:58 »

Quote from: SNP on January 01, 2011, 18:56

well, I certainly wish you luck and success. nothing to do with being right, but I suspect you might be kicking yourself or breaking even with double the work. but hey, if someone finds the golden key to independence other than Yuri and proves it to be more lucrative...good on them and that's an open door to the rest of us.

And you might end up kicking yourself for staying on a sinking ship for too long. Things can go either way. But unless iStock cleans up its act, I'd put my money on jamirae's success.

SNP · « **Reply #40 on:** January 01, 2011, 19:06 »

of course you do...

caspixel · « **Reply #41 on:** January 01, 2011, 19:13 »

Quote from: SNP on January 01, 2011, 19:06

of course you do...

I don't know how you can watch the train wreck that iStock has become and not think otherwise. Look at how many people are reporting how bad December is at iStock and how many customers have complained, and the on-going downloads decline, year after year. Seriously, unless iStock gets into the Way Back machine, you will be the loser. With all the evidence mounting, I don't know how you can continue to have such blind faith in them. Well, actually, I do. It's a desperate attempt to continue to convince yourself you have made the right decision.

SNP · « **Reply #42 on:** January 01, 2011, 19:18 »

I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything. you seem to be though. you spend more time in iStock threads than anyone else.

nruboc · « **Reply #43 on:** January 01, 2011, 19:31 »

Quote from: SNP on January 01, 2011, 18:56

well, I certainly wish you luck and success. nothing to do with being right, but I suspect you might be kicking yourself or breaking even with double the work. but hey, if someone finds the golden key to independence other than Yuri and proves it to be more lucrative...good on them and that's an open door to the rest of us.

Golden key to independence other than Yuri? LOL... Experiencing your stats on IStockphoto alone, would be enough to drive me to independence....lol

SNP · « **Reply #44 on:** January 01, 2011, 19:38 »

another fabulous statistician. snappy...

caspixel · « **Reply #45 on:** January 01, 2011, 19:39 »

Quote from: SNP on January 01, 2011, 19:18

I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything. you seem to be though. you spend more time in iStock threads than anyone else.

So you keep saying, but that is patently false. Even though you keep trying to convince yourself of that.

Something interesting about you, SNP, you always try to discredit the person who disagrees with you by pointing out they are a) not a serious contributor b) don't have many downloads c) don't have many uploads or d) post more/less on X forum. And usually it's a strawman argument.

SNP · « **Reply #46 on:** January 01, 2011, 19:47 »

Cas, it's boring. just press that little ignore button and then you don't have to exert yourself jumping all over everything I say ;-)

caspixel · « **Reply #47 on:** January 01, 2011, 19:50 »

Quote from: SNP on January 01, 2011, 19:47

Cas, it's boring. just press that little ignore button and then you don't have to exert yourself jumping all over everything I say ;-)

You have an ignore button as well, no?

SNP · « **Reply #48 on:** January 01, 2011, 19:58 »

I'm not going after you Cas. you specifically address me frequently and blow my points into things I haven't said. it frustrates me that I can't post without you paraphrasing what I've said, or anyone else for that matter who doesn't buy into your hatred for iStock. I can't believe the time you spend bashing iStock. to what end? are you evangelizing, or just vindictive?

nruboc · « **Reply #49 on:** January 01, 2011, 20:11 »

Quote from: SNP on January 01, 2011, 19:38

another fabulous statistician. snappy...

You have to admit though, it is kinda funny.... someone with your stats telling others how much they're going to lose by going independent... lol

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